Female Israeli soldiers speak out about the Israeli sickness

[bud]

What it actually boils down to is that the Arabs are very sore losers. They started this mess...but, couldn't finish it. Perhaps they'll have better luck with their next surprise attack. Or not. Will you complain if they lose again, bud?

yes. the arabs started the mess by forcing the jewish terrorist groups, led by the future prime minister of israel to expel the arabs out of more than 500 villages in what is now israel. then demolish these 500 villages. those arabs are responsible for a lot of things.

didn't the nazis blame the jews as well?

[DogOnPorch]

yes. the arabs started the mess by forcing the jewish terrorist groups, led by the future prime minister of israel to expel the arabs out of more than 500 villages in what is now israel. then demolish these 500 villages. those arabs are responsible for a lot of things.

didn't the nazis blame the jews as well?

Please...your revisionism might work on your CJPME cronies. The Arabs attacked the state of Israel in 1948. They lost. Deal with it.

[bud]

Adjusted for inflation...of course. And by adjusted I mean I used it to line my parrot cage before presenting it.

of course it's adjusted. why wouldn't it be? what israel could purchase with $1 million of u.s.' taxpayer money in the 1950's differs from what they could purchase now. why are you having a hard time with this?

[bleeding heart]

Where are our soldiers raping folks again?

??

I'm not aware that they are.

I merely pointed out that a fellow-poster advocates rape as a legitimate tool of war...so long as Canadian financial interests are invoked in any way. This of course was by way of a hypothetical...since he couldn't name any way in which raping women has any substantive material benefits for Canadians.

I offered this by way of exposing the silliness of your by-association rhetoric....because if you believed it, then you by definition must support rape as a reasonable part of war policy.

I'm happy I can help you understand the posts to which you've been trying to respond.

[bud]

I merely pointed out that a fellow-poster advocates rape as a legitimate tool of war...so long as Canadian financial interests are invoked in any way.

and dogonporch merely pointed that i support CJPME (canadians for justice and peacein the middle east). i'm glad we're having these comparisons.

[DogOnPorch]

??

I'm not aware that they are.

I merely pointed out that a fellow-poster advocates rape as a legitimate tool of war...so long as Canadian financial interests are invoked in any way. This of course was by way of a hypothetical...since he couldn't name any way in which raping women has any substantive material benefits for Canadians.

I offered this by way of exposing the silliness of your by-association rhetoric....because if you believed it, then you by definition must support rape as a reasonable part of war policy.

I'm happy I can help you understand the posts to which you've been trying to respond.

You're free to think our soldiers shouldn't be raping as a policy. I do too.

As for other soldiers elsewhere doing it as policy...this would be another fine example of the soft bigotry of lowered expectations getting the better of you. It isn't our burden. It's those that actually rape. They chose to do that. We aren't all equal in our attitudes. Enjoy the diversity and multiculturalism. You bought and paid for it, after all.

[DogOnPorch]

and dogonporch merely pointed that i support CJPME (canadians for justice and peacein the middle east). i'm glad we're having these comparisons.

You have an agenda to see the Jewish state dismantled by any means possible. Good luck to you and your BNP-like friends.

[bleeding heart]

You're free to think our soldiers shouldn't be raping as a policy. I do too.

So you've already abandoned your foolishness about poster-association. Good for you.

As for other soldiers elsewhere doing it as policy...this would be another fine example of the soft bigotry of lowered expectations getting the better of you. It isn't our burden. It's those that actually rape. They chose to do that.

Yes. And some people choose to justify it. Including at least one poster on this board.

But no...bud is obviously much worse than the advocate for rape.

To quote another poster's catchphrase: "you can't make this stuff up! lol!"

[bud]

You have an agenda to see the Jewish state dismantled by any means possible. Good luck to you and your BNP-like friends.

what? i have never once said that i want israel to be dismantled. either show where i've said this or correct yourself.

[DogOnPorch]

So you've already abandoned your foolishness about poster-association. Good for you.

Yes. And some people choose to justify it. Including at least one poster on this board.

But no...bud is obviously much worse than the advocate for rape.

To quote another poster's catchphrase: "you can't make this stuff up! lol!"

I've abandoned nothing you word twister. I clearly said our troops shouldn't rape as a part of policy. Do they? Well??

[bleeding heart]

I've abandoned nothing you word twister. I clearly said our troops shouldn't rape as a part of policy. Do they? Well??

Word twister!

YOU said that if I agreed with the evil bud on anything, I must agree with all evil bud's horrors...like his opinion on dismantling Israel that he hasn't made.

So I pointed out that under your own rules, you must agree with the (obviously more disgusting) opinions evinced by another poster...a poster with whom you frequently agree, just by the way.

Now you say you don't advocate for rape...meaning you've dropped the silly associative-guilt thing.

I think that's a good sign...but take it how you will.

[DogOnPorch]

what? i have never once said that i want israel to be dismantled. either show where i've said this or correct yourself.

Oh please. Why are you telling my buddy Jian not to speak again?

[DogOnPorch]

Word twister!

YOU said that if I agreed with the evil bud on anything, I must agree with all evil bud's horrors...like his opinion on dismantling Israel that he hasn't made.

So I pointed out that under your own rules, you must agree with the (obviously more disgusting) opinions evinced by another poster...a poster with whom you frequently agree, just by the way.

Now you say you don't advocate for rape...meaning you've dropped the silly associative-guilt thing.

I think that's a good sign...but take it how you will.

I will continue to portray you as another bud if you continue to answer his post for him. Nobody has advocated rape as a policy of Canadian soldiers.

[bud]

Oh please. Why are you telling my buddy Jian not to speak again?

what are you talking about? are you going to correct yourself or will i have to report you for misrepresenting me and trying to defame me?

[DogOnPorch]

what are you talking about? are you going to correct yourself or will i have to report you for misrepresenting me and trying to defame me?

Report away. The CJPME has numerous anti-Israel campaigns going on including pestering Jian about speaking at a Canadian Friends of Hebrew University fund-raiser. Your group reeks of it, bud.

Edited October 23, 2013 by DogOnPorch

[bleeding heart]

I will continue to portray you as another bud if you continue to answer his post for him. Nobody has advocated rape as a policy of Canadian soldiers.

No...he advocated rape by "fascists," in the cases where Canada might support them, as a means for keeping Canada financially secure. (Not that it did in the real-life case that was under discussion...but hey, it's not my perverse logic.)

As to whether or not you "continue to portray [me] as another bud"....well, I'm searching my imagination for something I could care less about.

[DogOnPorch]

No...he advocated rape by "fascists," in the cases where Canada might support them, as a means for keeping Canada financially secure. (Not that it did in the real-life case that was under discussion...but hey, it's not my perverse logic.)

As to whether or not you "continue to portray [me] as another bud"....well, I'm searching my imagination for something I could care less about.

So Canadians went up to who again and told theses folks to start raping as a part of Canadian policy? Why did they listen to us? Did we hold a gun to their heads?

Yeah...soft bigotry. These folks do what they're told!

[bleeding heart]

So Canadians went up to who again and told theses folks to start raping as a part of Canadian policy? Why did they listen to us? Did we hold a gun to their heads?

Yeah...soft bigotry. These folks do what they're told!

You've lost the plot, I see.

If it's any consolation, I'm sorry that a poster whom you evidently like is an advocate for rape as a war-weapon. Like you, I think that's a repellent position to hold.

[bud]

what are you talking about? are you going to correct yourself or will i have to report you for misrepresenting me and trying to defame me?

you said i want to dismantle israel. when did i or this group ever advocate dismantling israel? one last chance to correct yourself.

[DogOnPorch]

You've lost the plot, I see.

If it's any consolation, I'm sorry that a poster whom you evidently like is an advocate for rape as a war-weapon. Like you, I think that's a repellent position to hold.

Your position on 'meddling' in other folks business has always been clear. My contention is that you do not apply the same conditions of 'repellant' to the folks actually doing the job. You'd rather blame Nixon than Pinochet as it seems to fulfill something in you. If I said 'coup in Iran' you'd naturally want to state 'CIA' like there was no Iranians involved. Everybody in Iran LOVED Mosseddeq, after all. Perhaps a world actually run by Pinochets rather than Nixons would do you good.

I vas only followiking orders...ja!

[Guest American Woman]

you said i want to dismantle israel. when did i or this group ever advocate dismantling israel? one last chance to correct yourself.

He didn't say you did. He said you wanted to dismantle the Jewish state . With your talk of Zionists/Zionism being a cancer that needs to be eradicated, as you now saying that you support a Jewish state?

Edited October 23, 2013 by American Woman

[DogOnPorch]

you said i want to dismantle israel. when did i or this group ever advocate dismantling israel? one last chance to correct yourself.

Report away. Greg and Charles are free to decide your group's agenda themselves.

http://www.cjpme.org/TabbedEnhancedItemList.aspx?EITID=1&MNITEM=1000000367

[bleeding heart]

Your position on 'meddling' in other folks business has always been clear.

Yeah....I don't think you've got a strong argument here.

My contention is that you do not apply the same conditions of 'repellant' to the folks actually doing the job. You'd rather blame Nixon than Pinochet as it seems to fulfill something in you. If I said 'coup in Iran' you'd naturally want to state 'CIA' like there was no Iranians involved. Everybody in Iran LOVED Mosseddeq, after all. Perhaps a world actually run by Pinochets rather than Nixons would do you good.

I was responding about a poster's explicitly stated views, for the purpose of displaying to you that your associative-guilt declaration was silly. Hell, you've practically conceded the point, though unaccountably won't admit it.

Everything else has been your attempt at obfuscation.

[DogOnPorch]

Seeing that Derek isn't here to defend your accusations that he advocates rape, you should allow him to now respond. No?

As for me surrendering to you...you know better.

[bud]

He didn't say you did. He said you wanted to dismantle the Jewish state . With your talk of Zionists/Zionism being a cancer that needs to be eradicated, as you now saying that you support a Jewish state?

zionism is not a country. zionism is an ideology that should be rejected in my opinion. i feel the same way about wahabism which i believe should be rejected. that doesn't mean that i advocate for dismantling saudi arabia.

i have never once said that israel should be dismantled.