Effective job training for 1.3 million unemployed Canadians

[bjre]

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/10/20131008-153221.html

Kenney is trying to get a deal for a new training grant to be rolled out over four years.

It would see employers cover one-third of the cost of training a new hire from the pool of 1.3 million unemployed Canadians, while taxpayers pick up the rest of the cost through provincial and federal governments.

In my opinion, lots of immigrants and others have enough skill to do work, many are even better than those who have work. But they still can not find a job. It is due to bias.

Currently, many organization ask for volentieer work for them without pay, it is unfair, they said they offer "Canadian experience", Many new immigrants work as volenteer when their life are really hard. They can work as volenteer prooved they are good enough to work as others who have the absurd "Canadian experience".

Training can not reduce bias.

Training is often waste money, the only winner is the training companies and teachers.

Asking employers to pay for teachers will only increase the cost of companies.

I think if the govenment can use half of the training money to pay 1/3 of the salary in half a year for those who have no job for a year. That would greatly stimulte many companies hire unemployed. So that more and more people can be converted into "experienced" (in record). That would be more effective than any training program.

[Boges]

I think if the govenment can use half of the training money to pay 1/3 of the salary in half a year for those who have no job for a year. That would greatly stimulte many companies hire unemployed. So that more and more people can be converted into "experienced" (in record). That would be more effective than any training program.

That's not really a long term solution to address the employment gap. There are many people that are trained to do jobs that are no longer in demand. Those jobs that have been outsourced aren't coming back simply because the economy has been artificially stimulated.

If people are willing to be trained in a field that's in demand then why shouldn't the receive help from the government? Often these people have families and responsibilities that make it difficult to fund additional training.

[cybercoma]

The idea that there are people without jobs and jobs without people is idiotic. There are plenty of people that can do the jobs and it should be the responsibility of the companies to train people if that's what they need. It's not the government's job to supplement a corporation's revenues by paying off one of their biggest expenses. More to the point, that's not the problem anyway.

The problem is this: companies can't fill the positions because they refuse to pay people the wages they want.

[Boges]

The problem is this: companies can't fill the positions because they refuse to pay people the wages they want.

That maybe true for jobs like picking apples.

But not these STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) jobs that do require education that it would be unrealistic for employers to provide. The pay for these jobs is often very good.

There's evidence that these jobs are plentiful but not enough people are obtaining education in these fields.

[cybercoma]

That would be wrong. More people are entering universities than any other time in history. Many of them are getting STEM degrees. Not so many years ago, someone I know was a recent graduate with a chemistry degree. She got a job working in a lab for a whopping $12/hr with her prestigious STEM letters.

[jacee]

That maybe true for jobs like picking apples.

But not these STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) jobs that do require education that it would be unrealistic for employers to provide. The pay for these jobs is often very good.

There's evidence that these jobs are plentiful but not enough people are obtaining education in these fields.

Where's the evidence?

[PIK]

That would be wrong. More people are entering universities than any other time in history. Many of them are getting STEM degrees. Not so many years ago, someone I know was a recent graduate with a chemistry degree. She got a job working in a lab for a whopping $12/hr with her prestigious STEM letters.

That is the biggest problem, stay out of the unis and get a trade and make some real money, be a maker not a taker.