OttawaNow Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 What requirements do the Canadian territories need to meet in order to become provinces? Does each have to have a population of 100,000? Obviously, when the Yukon and Nunavut become provinces, their names will stay the same, but the Northwest Territories will have to be given a new name. The Northwest Province would be stupid. I don't like how Newfoundland and Labrador is one province with a name for each part. When will the territories become provinces? I'm tired of calling them territories. Quote
g_bambino Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 The territories will become provinces when the constitution is amended to make them provinces. That's it. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 . When will the territories become provinces? I'm tired of calling them territories. Well, why didn't you say so? I'm sure that King Stephen will make them provinces just as soon as you tell him that. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
OttawaNow Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Posted March 7, 2013 Whose decision will it be to amend the constitution to make them provinces? Is it solely the Prime Minister or does it have to be voted on in Parliament? Would it be voted on in the house or the senate? Both? Quote
The_Squid Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 The territories will become provinces when the constitution is amended to make them provinces. That's it. Why would the Constitution need a change to convert a territory but not to create a new territory (Nunavut)? Quote
shortlived Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) What requirements do the Canadian territories need to meet in order to become provinces? Does each have to have a population of 100,000? Obviously, when the Yukon and Nunavut become provinces, their names will stay the same, but the Northwest Territories will have to be given a new name. The Northwest Province would be stupid. I don't like how Newfoundland and Labrador is one province with a name for each part. When will the territories become provinces? I'm tired of calling them territories. No the constitution just needs to be ratified with them as provinces. Like this but a few other changes... http://www.solon.org/Constitutions/Canada/English/ca_1999-na.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amendments_to_the_Constitution_of_Canada Edited March 7, 2013 by shortlived Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
OttawaNow Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Posted March 7, 2013 What should the Northwest Territories be called when it becomes a province? Quote
shortlived Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) What should the Northwest Territories be called when it becomes a province? What makes you think that? Lots of natives up there, why would they want to be raped by a province? Or is that to oppose being raped by the federal govt. The treaties are with the federal govt. why would they want to have to deal with a new player? Edited March 7, 2013 by shortlived Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
g_bambino Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 Why would the Constitution need a change to convert a territory but not to create a new territory (Nunavut)? The creation of Nunavut did require a constitutional amendment. Quote
g_bambino Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 The treaties are with the federal govt. why would they want to have to deal with a new player? They wouldn't. Did you think First Nations on lands within current provincial borders have their treaties with the relevant provincial crown? Quote
shortlived Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) They wouldn't. Did you think First Nations on lands within current provincial borders have their treaties with the relevant provincial crown? Yup. Those after 1867 tend to be that category. For example those in Northern Ontario, Northern Quebec and British Columbia. While in the Territories it is the Federal Government. The older treaties are with the UK. Edited March 7, 2013 by shortlived Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
g_bambino Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 Yup. Well, you were wrong. The older treaties are with the UK. Also wrong. Quote
OttawaNow Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Posted March 7, 2013 Whose decision will it be to amend the constitution to make them provinces? Is it solely the Prime Minister or does it have to be voted on in Parliament? Would it be voted on in the house or the senate? Both? Quote
OttawaNow Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) A province with a compound name: Newfoundland and Labrador. Why couldn't they just call the whole thing Newfoundland or Labrador? Michigan has two separate parts, but they called the whole state just Michigan. Nunavut have lots of islands, but the whole thing was called Nunavut. Are there any other examples anywhere in the world of a province or state with a compound name like Newfoundland and Labrador? Edited March 7, 2013 by OttawaNow Quote
OttawaNow Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Posted March 7, 2013 It used to be called Newfoundland only. Why the change? What's the big deal? Quote
Bonam Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Are there any other examples anywhere in the world of a province or state with a compound name like Newfoundland and Labrador? Trinidad and Tobago Antigua and Barbuda Bosnia and Herzegovina Sao Tome and Principe And those are just nation states... Edited March 7, 2013 by Bonam Quote
g_bambino Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 Whose decision will it be to amend the constitution to make them provinces? Is it solely the Prime Minister or does it have to be voted on in Parliament? Would it be voted on in the house or the senate? Both? The prime minister cannot pass or amend laws. Bills require the assent of the House of Commons, the Senate, and the governor general before they can become law. The constitution sets out additional requirements for the amendment of the constitution; section 42.1 of the Constitution Act 1982 outlines: "An amendment to the Constitution of Canada in relation to [the establishment of new provinces] may be made only [by proclamation issued by the Governor General under the Great Seal of Canada where so authorized by... resolutions of the Senate and House of Commons; and resolutions of the legislative assemblies of at least two-thirds of the provinces that have, in the aggregate, according to the then latest general census, at least fifty per cent of the population of all the provinces]..." Quote
The_Squid Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 The creation of Nunavut did require a constitutional amendment. Thanks... interesting! Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 A province with a compound name: Newfoundland and Labrador. Why couldn't they just call the whole thing Newfoundland or Labrador? Michigan has two separate parts, but they called the whole state just Michigan. Nunavut have lots of islands, but the whole thing was called Nunavut. Are there any other examples anywhere in the world of a province or state with a compound name like Newfoundland and Labrador? Why do you care so much? Quote
Boges Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 They should make Labrador a Territory to really piss OttawaNow off. Quote
Accountability Now Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 Yup. Those after 1867 tend to be that category. For example those in Northern Ontario, Northern Quebec and British Columbia. While in the Territories it is the Federal Government. The older treaties are with the UK. The treaties for FN within provinces are still with the Federal goverment however I think the FN negotiate with the provinces for resource sharing. Quote
shortlived Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) The treaties for FN within provinces are still with the Federal goverment however I think the FN negotiate with the provinces for resource sharing. They are not with the federal government, however Indian Affairs manages treaty responsibilities of the federal government. nd whereas Great Frauds and abuses have been committed in purchasing lands of the Indians, to the great prejudice of our interests, and to the great dissatisfaction of the said Indians; In order, therefore, to prevent such irregularities for the future, and to the End that the Indians may be convinced of our justice and determined resolution to remove all reasonable cause of discontent, we do, with the advice of our privy council strictly enjoin and require, that no private person do presume to make any purchase from the said Indians of any Lands reserved to the said Indians, within those parts of our Colonies where, we have thought proper to allow settlement; but that, if at any Time any of the said Indians should be inclined to dispose of the said Lands, the same shall be purchased only for us, in our name, at some public meeting or assembly of the said Indians, to be held for the purpose by the Governor or Commander in Chief of our Colonies Edited March 8, 2013 by shortlived Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
OttawaNow Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) It used to be called Newfoundland only. Why the change? What's the big deal? Who complained about it? Edited March 8, 2013 by OttawaNow Quote
OttawaNow Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Posted March 8, 2013 So will the Yukon, Northwest Territories and Nunavut ever become provinces? Yes or no? Quote
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