Isreal rejects the Nazi car - (can't make this stuff up)

[kimmy]

So now you admit that he's complaining about the name, not "complaining because people in Minneapolis and Calgary are going to be driving around in an 'SS,'" which are two different things, but in reality, it's "criticism" -

He's complaining that GM is selling a car named "SS" anywhere in the world. Whether they are being driven in Minneapolis, or just parked on driveways seems like an inane counterpoint at best.

and he has every right to criticize it as in "If the name 'Provo' has bad connotations in the UK, then by all means, don't sell it.."

You trimmed my quote to make it appear as though I've contradicted myself. The complete sentence was:

If the name "Provo" has bad connotations in the UK, then by all means, don't sell it there or pick a new name.

That's a low-class tactic.

I do believe that if the name caused offense in a local market, it would be the polite (and sensible) thing to change the name to respect the locals.

I have not found text of the Parliamentary resolution tabled by MP Campbell. If his resolution was to request that Kia not use the name in the UK, then I have no complaint. If he did in fact request that Kia not use the name "Provo" anywhere in the world, then I think he's as whiny as Baruch Shuv.

In fact, I think that's exactly what I already said on the subject.

But unless this British MP is telling Kia that they shouldn't sell a car named "Provo" *anywhere*, then it's not the same as the "SS" thread.

If you can provide me with the full text of Mr Campbell's resolution, I can give you a firm answer on whether I think he's a big crybaby.

You now say "it seems unlikely that they ever planned to sell it in Israel." So they should have just thought 'hmmmm, it seems unlikely that they will ever sell it here, so we won't voice our objections.'

I just think he's a crybaby for complaining about what a company wants to sell on the other side of the planet.

FYI, since "this little bit" apparently didn't "jump out at you," from the OP article in the other thread: "The South Korean car manufacturer Kia has said it does not plan to sell a model called the 'Provo' in the UK." Yet there was a parliamentary motion over the name in the UK: "Kia said the car was a special model planned for a Swiss motor show. Mr Campbell welcomed "Kia's swift action" in disavowing plans to sell a car with the Provo name." Note the lack of "in the UK" in that statement; as subsequent quotes make it clear that it's not a name they approve of.

Since the car itself is a concept-car model made only for a car show in Switzerland, and since Kia has no planned production and no plan to sell this car in any country in the world let alone the UK, and since the name "Provo" was chosen by an Italian styling studio, not by Kia themselves, I find it completely unsurprising that Kia has no plans to use the "Provo" name.

-k

Edited March 8, 2013 by kimmy

[Rue]

If SS stood for something other than Super Sport, they might have a point. Or if it was being sold in Israel, they might have a point. Neither is the case. Much ado over nothing.

Although, I do think most Israelis and/or Jews have the maturity to realize that in the year 2013, the initials SS on an object is not a Nazi plot to rid the earth of their "race".... although it's clear that not all of them are quite so mature...

This is precisely the dialogue I challenge. This individual like many others on this forum can't seperate the issue from Jews or Israels and must lecture us both on them and make assumptions as to our maturity level because we do not react to SS as this poster does. This is precisely the smug, self righteous, I am in the position to tell you I am more mature than you attitude I was challenging. This poster could not demonstrate it any better.