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So Al Gore decided to sell his Current TV network to one of the members of big oil. It was a hefty profit for the hefty charlatan of $100 million dollars. Al Gore says that he understands the criticism, but disagrees. Disagrees with what exactly? That he's a giant hypocrite? That it's ok for him to profit from fossil fuels, that he insists the rest of us stop using?

Anyways, Jon Stewart and Matt Lauer had really good takes on the issue...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVfaZzPCSFs

Matt Lauer quotes from Al Gore's book new book..."Virtually every news and political commentary program on television is sponsored in part by oil, coal and gas companies." Which is now exactly what hypocrite Gore did.

http://www.politico....24.html?ml=po_r

Jon Stewart was great too. I encourage you to watch the whole segment online.

“Can you see how people at home might think – but he's asking me in my life to make choices about light bulbs and a cost-benefit analysis for the purpose of sustainability when I just want to see my book. That's the issue,”

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The more money he takes from big oil interests, the less they have to invest in big oil interests. Actually he is once again doing the planet some good.

"I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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There is Al Gore the Environmentalist and Al Gore the Capitalist. They are two different people. He is just living in the best of both worlds. Maybe he is schizophrenic?

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The more money he takes from big oil interests, the less they have to invest in big oil interests. Actually he is once again doing the planet some good.

Government revenues from big oil interests are also doing the planet some good too, I guess. But they should stop the subsidies. That's just plain hypocritical. Al Gore needs to really lay it on those big oil interests and get another private jet, a couple more limos and a bigger house. We should all do that I guess. Do you think big oil will meet the demand and raise its prices or collapse?

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He's single-handedly turning oil companies into media companies. The only hypocrites are those who one day say climate change isn't happening and the next day say it is but it couldn't be human-caused.

"I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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He's single-handedly turning oil companies into media companies. The only hypocrites are those who one day say climate change isn't happening and the next day say it is but it couldn't be human-caused.

We know the temperature over the last century has risen 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit but hasn't risen over the last 16 years. Haven't you seen the latest UN report on Climate change?

I think Al claimed he single-handedly created the internet too. What a great guy!

I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.

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You should try making an argument that isn't based on misrepresenting the truth.

"I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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So Al Gore decided to sell his Current TV network to one of the members of big oil.

huh! One of the "members of big oil"??? Who dat?

oh, you mean Al Jazeera! Well, that's not the Qatar government, right Shady?

but Shady, it's a grand day. North America gets a first-rate, critically acclaimed, independent media outlet. Strangely, though... many on the right/far-right/fringe feel threatened. Wonder why, hey Shady?

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We know the temperature over the last century has risen 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit but hasn't risen over the last 16 years. Haven't you seen the latest UN report on Climate change?

I think Al claimed he single-handedly created the internet too. What a great guy!

There is no new UN report on climate change. There is a half finished report which was leaked a year early and which the people working on it haven't even come close to finishing or checking their facts? You mean that report? The one which isn't done or fact checked?

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So Al Gore decided to sell his Current TV network to one of the members of big oil. It was a hefty profit for the hefty charlatan of $100 million dollars. Al Gore says that he understands the criticism, but disagrees. Disagrees with what exactly? That he's a giant hypocrite? That it's ok for him to profit from fossil fuels, that he insists the rest of us stop using?

Are you OK Shady???

That was a great example of how good Al Gore really is!!!

I thought you didn't like Al Gore???

But for some reason you are posting clips of him doing a fantastic job of explaining his position???

Here's some advise for you Shady,if you don't like Gore,try not posting clips that work AGAINST you.

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There is no new UN report on climate change. There is a half finished report which was leaked a year early and which the people working on it haven't even come close to finishing or checking their facts? You mean that report? The one which isn't done or fact checked?

Right. You would believe a leaked climate decimation document though wouldn't you?

I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.

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We know the temperature over the last century has risen 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit but hasn't risen over the last 16 years. Haven't you seen the latest UN report on Climate change?

I think Al claimed he single-handedly created the internet too. What a great guy!

You should try making an argument that isn't based on misrepresenting the truth.

I should buy that he is singlehandedly turning oil companies into media outlets?

The truth is he is a hypocrite.

I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.

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We know the temperature over the last century has risen 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit but hasn't risen over the last 16 years. Haven't you seen the latest UN report on Climate change?

I think Al claimed he single-handedly created the internet too. What a great guy!

2 memes in one Pliny - well done!

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I think Al claimed he single-handedly created the internet too.

Nope. He did no such thing.

"Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882 - 1945), radio address, October 26, 1939

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Nope. He did no such thing.

"Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882 - 1945), radio address, October 26, 1939

True. His exact quote is "I took the initiative of creating the Internet".

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huh! One of the "members of big oil"??? Who dat?

oh, you mean Al Jazeera! Well, that's not the Qatar government, right Shady?

but Shady, it's a grand day. North America gets a first-rate, critically acclaimed, independent media outlet. Strangely, though... many on the right/far-right/fringe feel threatened. Wonder why, hey Shady?

Don't be disingenuous. Their money comes from oil. Your emperor has no clothes. Even the likes of Jon Stewart recognizes the utter hypocrisy and disregard of his actions.

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Don't be disingenuous. Their money comes from oil. Your emperor has no clothes. Even the likes of Jon Stewart recognizes the utter hypocrisy and disregard of his actions.

no - Gore has offered a rationalization for the sale; it's simply one you won't accept given your denier predilection and long displayed MLW want to vilify Gore for being one of the early communicators on man-made global warming/climate change.

here's a refresh for ya: Current TV, although receiving critically positive review, was not mainstream - Gore openly admitted they didn't have the money to complete with the largest networks. Current TV has staff/shareholders... with options of either folding it or looking to positively position staff/shareholders, the sale to Al Jazeera English was completed. Shady, I'm so confused - I thought you continually offer bending-over backwards (with a smile) reverence to capitalist overlords!

as uncle Al likes to point out, from the standpoint of climate coverage, no network in the world has provided as in-depth, extensive and positively reviewed coverage as has Al Jazeera... regardless of what you haters think, Shady.

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So Al Gore decided to sell his Current TV network to one of the members of big oil. It was a hefty profit for the hefty charlatan of $100 million dollars. Al Gore says that he understands the criticism, but disagrees. Disagrees with what exactly? That he's a giant hypocrite? That it's ok for him to profit from fossil fuels, that he insists the rest of us stop using?

Anyways, Jon Stewart and Matt Lauer had really good takes on the issue...

Matt Lauer quotes from Al Gore's book new book..."Virtually every news and political commentary program on television is sponsored in part by oil, coal and gas companies." Which is now exactly what hypocrite Gore did.

I guess news is traveling real slow in rightwingworld these days if it's just coming out now that Al Gore sold Current TV to Al Jazeera!

I would have assumed that Al Gore couldn't be trusted right from the time he managed to push his way onto the national stage - first by posing as a moderate Democrat to run for the House in a Democratic stronghold in Tennessee; then turning his ship to the right and running as the conservative Democrat, to run for an open Senate seat in his home state; then back to being a liberal again as Clinton's VP choice (abortion! I never said anything about abortion!); so where does Al Gore really stand? Likely the same place most politicians stand -- wherever the money is!

He was right about the power of the fossil fuel industry, but back after Al Gore invented the Internet and discovered the environment, there were indications that oil companies would join the shift away from petroleum to invest in wind, solar and other renewable energy sources.....BP changing its name to 'Beyond Petroleum' for example, but, after the CEO (I forget his name) was fired for negligence re: either ignoring or not being aware of safety concerns at BP's Texas refinery after an explosion which killed several workers, the next boss was Tony Hayward....who is most infamous for his "damn the torpedoes" approach to warnings about the Deep Sea Horizon rig in the Gulf, but had been working behind the scenes to dump his former boss and scrap BP's green technology investment program and put all their money into going after those risky, deep sea oil deposits.....and the rest is history as they say. That quote from Al Gore's new book doesn't mean that he entered the global warming issue with the intention of taking on the oil companies and saving the planet. On the contrary, his motives were more likely along the lines of:'what the hell do I do now that my career in politics is over?' and 'I don't know how to do anything else!' It's just that he expected two things when he made that movie "An Inconvenient Truth"

1. Dealing with climate change would be easy if steps were taken back 10 years ago, and

2. Industry, especially the oil, gas and coal companies would join the shift because existing fossil fuel reserves were getting too risky - too dirty - and too expensive to develop.

But, as we know now, their response was far more aggressive than anyone expected....even against the weak-assed initiatives of the green capitalists like Al Gore.

http://www.politico....24.html?ml=po_r

Jon Stewart was great too. I encourage you to watch the whole segment online.

“Can you see how people at home might think – but he's asking me in my life to make choices about light bulbs and a cost-benefit analysis for the purpose of sustainability when I just want to see my book. That's the issue,”

No, if this quote is an example, Jon Stewart wasn't great...not even good! Because once again, like every other mainstream liberal, he missed the real point about Gore and his environment proposals: beginning with "An Inconvenient Truth," Gore presented a narrative that meshed nicely with the expectations of liberals like Stewart - that a global crisis caused by a capitalist system that did not place the full costs to the land, water and air that affects everyone onto the developers and consumers of that resource, could be solved primarily through voluntary initiatives that didn't challenge the system. And what's worse - Gore's solutions like inflating your tires to make your car more efficient, buying efficient light bulbs, and planting trees somewhere as "carbon offsets" shifted the responsibility for harms caused by major institutions onto every individual, regardless of their carbon footprint!

Jon Stewart, like other MSM liberals, can't criticize the Big Green environmental spokesmen like Gore because he believes the exact same thing: that priority one must be preserving the present system. And every environmental concern can be fixed by tweaking the dials of capitalism through technological innovations and conservation. And those who believe that long term survival should be the highest priority (can't figure out why that's the radical concept here!) see the liberals and big greenies as marginally better than the psychopaths trying to drive us over the cliff! And possibly even worse than the degenerates like the Koch Brothers, because the liberal is pretending to be onside while proposing meaningless steps that will do little or nothing to stave off disaster.

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Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist.

-- Kenneth Boulding,

1973

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no - Gore has offered a rationalization for the sale; it's simply one you won't accept given your denier predilection and long displayed MLW want to vilify Gore for being one of the early communicators on man-made global warming/climate change.

here's a refresh for ya: Current TV, although receiving critically positive review, was not mainstream - Gore openly admitted they didn't have the money to complete with the largest networks. Current TV has staff/shareholders... with options of either folding it or looking to positively position staff/shareholders, the sale to Al Jazeera English was completed. Shady, I'm so confused - I thought you continually offer bending-over backwards (with a smile) reverence to capitalist overlords!

as uncle Al likes to point out, from the standpoint of climate coverage, no network in the world has provided as in-depth, extensive and positively reviewed coverage as has Al Jazeera... regardless of what you haters think, Shady.

Its jobs jobs jobs right up to the point where it isn't.

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The more money he takes from big oil interests, the less they have to invest in big oil interests. Actually he is once again doing the planet some good.

All kidding aside, Al Gore is hardly a crusader for a better earth. He is at best a phony. Edited by jbg
  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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All kidding aside, Al Gore is hardly a crusader for a better earth. He is at best a phony.

Actually you could be right there!

The same could be transferred to Canadian politics as well when trying to make a distinction between party lines.

Especially between liberals and conservatives.

It's a joke when Shady attacks Gore for being a capitalist.

It's like he wants to cut his hand off,because his hand did something that he may now regret.

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It's a joke when Shady attacks Gore for being a capitalist.

Not for being a capitalist, but for being a complete and utter hypocrite. As have many other people, including Jon Stewart, etc.

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