Shakeyhands Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 I agree, Calgary is a beautiful city full of culture, its amazing you know you can eat authentic ethnic cuisine from hundreds of other places all within one city! Yes the weather can be a bit nasty in the winter what with the mild weather, lots of slush you see... any way its quite beautiful and people flock here and that explains why from a population perspective, Calgary is even larger than Toronto.... Errrrr what a sec..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamps Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 I agree, Calgary is a beautiful city full of culture, its amazing you know you can eat authentic ethnic cuisine from hundreds of other places all within one city! Yes the weather can be a bit nasty in the winter what with the mild weather, lots of slush you see... any way its quite beautiful and people flock here and that explains why from a population perspective, Calgary is even larger than Toronto.... Errrrr what a sec..... I spent two weeks in and around the Toronto area a five summers ago when my brother married a girl from North York, they met in Isreal and soon after she moved to Calgary and the rest is history, anyway your central Canadian arrogance is well known and confirmed in your response, yes Toronto as a city is probably one of the most culturally diverse in the world, it was a nice place to visit and cottage country is very nice, as so far as your shot against Calgary being a cultural wasteland I think for a city that is less than 100 years old we are doing very well in the culture department, as in we actually have our own, western culture as in pioneering, native american, cattle(hense the name cowtown), and we continue to develope, the condecension by eastern canadians toward our western attitudes and culture is really just a sad statement on where they actually lack any kind of real identity themselves, defining yourselve by other peoples cultures tells me that you lack identity, I will tell you something that is very real and common that I have experianced personally in respect with eastern Canadians and that is their low opinion of America and Western Canada, I will let you in on a secret, people with low opinions of others is a sign of low self esteem.. I really do'nt care what eastern Canada thinks of me, my city or it's so-called lack of culture brother..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeanumber Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 There's more culture at the dairy isle of the Connaught Safeway than in Calgary. This is something that many anti-community Calgarians don't understand: Heritage is NOT culture. Heritage is a component, but certainly not the only thing. Moreover: if you're so high on your 'culture' as you claim to be, why the hell arn't you, and your friends, down at Stampede Park on the weekends? In fact, I never see ANYBODY who looks as though they come from a community built under 20 years ago. Strong assumptions yes. Frankly, the reason why this city has a hollow soul is because of neo-yuppy Boomer/Generation X'ers who want to live in their little home, not deal with their neighborhoods (little though join a community association), and live perfectly sanitized, compartmentalized lives never feeling the side-effects or taking responsibility for their own actions. That said, the white wine socialists of Mount Royal, Bankview, the West Village, Sunnyside, Connaught, Scarborough, Garrison Woods and Hillhurst do in fact try to create a real sense of community and a proud arts scene, of which, virtually nobody from the 'burbs can take credit for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamps Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 That said, the white wine socialists of Mount Royal, Bankview, the West Village, Sunnyside, Connaught, Scarborough, Garrison Woods and Hillhurst do in fact try to create a real sense of community and a proud arts scene, of which, virtually nobody from the 'burbs can take credit for. I think it's great these inner city communities are developing an artistic conscience, I hope we as a city continue to evolve in a direction that helps enrich the lives of all Calgarians... our pioneering, never say die, personally accountable hard working culture is what I think is this city's most valuable asset and what defines us..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeanumber Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Stamps: SOME people have a hard work ethic. OTHERS don't. Who are some of these others? The oil people downtown who take 3 hour lunch hours to 'network', and justify as 'networking'. It's BS. Art shows, plays, etc, those are the traditional places to build social connections: they happen outside of the 8-6 bracket. Not here in Calgary though. They get to work at 8:30 Monday, leave for lunch at 11, get back at 2, leave at 4:30 (after all -- they've earned it) Monday through Thursday. They take Friday off. After all, they've earned it. I'm not talking about EVERYBODY. I think I'm just refering to the Haskayne set -- if you know what I mean. But hardcore: I came to this city as an businessman, I'll leave as one. It's a wicked place to do business, so long as you have the right people with the right attitude. It's not as bad as Montreal or Toronto, but it sure as hell isn't Newfoundland or Nova Scotia when it comes to work ethic. Anyway: Calgary has it's downsides. I just find it sad that some people feel as though they have to lie about their city to strangers....(Calgarians do have a tendency of patting themselves on the back when it isn't totally deserved) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamps Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 "Anyway: Calgary has it's downsides. I just find it sad that some people feel as though they have to lie about their city to strangers....(Calgarians do have a tendency of patting themselves on the back when it isn't totally deserved)" I am just curious as to what specifically you think I lied about here, you sound bitter about something..... if our great city is not for you maybe you should think about moving someplace that will make you happy, if you do'nt fit in here it's foolish to stay... good luck brother.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamps Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 "I came to this city as an businessman, I'll leave as one. It's a wicked place to do business, so long as you have the right people with the right attitude." Networking, hmmmmmmm... you sound like one of those Amyway or multi-level marketing type of guys... I really am not an expert on this type of thing but maybe Calgary is'nt the right enviroment.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Take, Are you primarily talking about a lack of social interaction here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeanumber Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 I live in one of the aforementioned communities. I actually know my neighbors and I have a history of civic action. The vast majority of Calgarians (some 800,000) don't. They live in their single detached home somewhere in the sprawl. They'll move out there, knowing that the traffic will be bad when they move there, but that doesn't keep them from bitching constantly about it. They keep to themselves. Many houses come with 10 foot high fences in the backyards now. Most new communities don't have community associations. They got off at 4:30pm, get home at around 5:00...they'll still bitch about the traffic even though they covered 10 clicks in under 25 minutes. They stay home. They don't go to any sports games (Flames attendance: 15k on average) or to football games (8-12k) or the theatre (ATP nearly folds every year) or anything else for that matter. They stay home and watch King of the Hill on Global. There are two Calgary's. There are the good civic citizens who are an active part of the cityscape. They put in 40+ hours a week at their jobs, many doing well over 50 hours. Many have more than one child, and they're not your suburban-lets-go-urinate-on-the-homeless variety either. (And believe me, those are some of the values some of these people are teaching their kids.) Then there is the sterile sprawl that surrounds the real city. It's antiseptic, a maze of pink stucko and red SUV's. It's no wonder there are so many hydroponic marijuana houses there -- nobody knows anybody else. That's my view. I think it's funny those from the outer city, in my experience, are the first to denounce anybody who speaks the truth about the city. "Oh it's great we got Stampede and a great work ethic...."....bull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamps Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 "They don't go to any sports games (Flames attendance: 15k on average) or to football games (8-12k) or the theatre (ATP nearly folds every year) or anything else for that matter. They stay home and watch King of the Hill on Global."....... I am a Flames season ticket holder and have been for the last 6 years.. this team did not make the playoffs for 7 staight years... your 15K average only applies for the last 2 years, before that we averaged 16 to 17k... before this team hit the skids we had a 10k waiting list for season tickets... if Edmonton or Vancouver or Ottawa or any other team went through a bad 7 year run like we did here I dare to say they would'nt be averaging 15k like we did, they probably would not have even survived as a franchise... that 15k is above league average in one of its smaller markets and if you honestly assess it our level of support through those bleak years is nothing short of amazing.. and your 8 to 12k per game comment on our Stampeders is just plain wrong, we averaged 30k per this year, and that's also with a very bad football team.... your deluded and obvious negative bias toward our great city is all to familiar.... people who lie about other people must really hate them and I think your deep seated contempt must be born out of jealousy and resentment.... get over it brother.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeanumber Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 What's there to be jealous about, lol~ I live in Calgary. I've lived in Calgary for over a decade. I lived in Calgary when Oil was in a slump. (That's how hardcore I am, lol). What's interesting is that you cite the dismal performance of our teams here in Calgary, and point the fact that the teams have survived. Just like ATP, they've just barely survived. This city has problems. Every city has problems. The difference is that other cities acknowledge their problems. In Calgary, there's only denial, accompanied by a 'ra ra'. Don't make excuses. Acknowledge the problem. Where's that Can-Do attitude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamps Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Our city foresure has its problems but your misinformation about something as trivial as our sports teams is consistant with many transplants views.. I do'nt know nor care about where you come from or how these other places are somehow so much better than my hometown, I'm not saying this as any kind of slight it is just the way it is and when Calgarians show our bone deep and sincere pride in our city I think these transplants become somewhat insulted, it is not meant to be an insult or taken that way brother it is just a fact of life, like the fact that we do have very, very good lives living here and it is well appreciated..... I think it is great that you are trying to improve upon our great city and you have a social conscience but like I've tried to tell you already your nose out of joint attitude towards true Calgarians because we do have this bone deep pride towards our city is going to do nothing but cause you irritation and dicomfort, we are not going to change and certainly not going to hide it to make you and your ilk feel better so I say again just get over it and move on brother..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeanumber Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 LMAO "Transplants" LMAO thank you for the quote, it truly is golden and shows just how much of a SOB 'native' Calgarians are. Terrific attitude. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamps Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Transplants is probably not the right term and I am sorry if it insulted you and other new citizens.... if you go back far enough we all ended up here through migration either personally or through our forefathers just looking for a better life and I certainly welcome all newcomers(pioneers) and wish them the best.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 "Transplants" is a relatively nice term compared to "bums and creeps" Mayor Klein? http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-73-416-2406-2...y/premier_klein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Don't worry, Stamps. TalkNumb has a chip the size of the Saddledome on his shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Transplants is probably not the right term and I am sorry if it insulted you and other new citizens.... if you go back far enough we all ended up here through migration either personally or through our forefathers just looking for a better life and I certainly welcome all newcomers(pioneers) and wish them the best.... I thought we were all Canadians or at least all human beings! :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamps Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 "I thought we were all Canadians or at least all human beings!"... Ofcourse we are human beings first and Canadians second... I did not mean to dehumanize anybody here and if I offended you again I apologize... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Is Klein backing off on his position against same-sex marraige? Alta's Klein reiterates stand against gay marriage may change if voters wish This is very bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamps Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I'm sure Ralph knows that approving same sex marraige in Alberta is the right thing to do and it is only a matter of time and I think he is just preparing our population for it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeanumber Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Well, I'll say the following things: 1. Section 3 of the marriage act might be changed on the basis of Klein's relationship with the aboriginals. Alberta has produced an incredible elite of twospirited people. This in no way justifies Section 3. 2. I'll accept the withdrawl of the word "transplant" and I'll leave it at that. The attitude is actually quite common though. I usually have to correct the Fraser Institute peeps on that quite often. 3. My favourite club in Calgary is by far Mynt. The owner doesn't have a policy of discrimination like at the Penny Lane establishments. It's really helpful because my friends are multi-ethnic. It's always a great time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamps Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Here is a story done by USA today on our great city... it is certainly flattering but I will admit to mixed feelings... I would rather keep our city as more of a secret... here's the link... http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/2004-1...0-calgary_x.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamps Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 takeanumber, did you notice the recognition of your cultural scene... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Metternich Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Easychair: If you're still reading this, here's some free advice. Takeanumber is clearly bitter about something. Maybe his girlfriend dumped him in Calgary. Who knows? Anyhoo: Calgary is the most liberal of the Canadian cities. I think that this is due to two interconnected realities. First: There is virtually no old money in Calgary. Compared to a city like Vancouver, any well-off families in Calgary became that way in the last two generations, and most did so through business. I attribute the lack of a tory, conservative element to Calgarian political culture to this. Second, Calgary is largely a city of non-natives, with both Canadians and non-Canadians moving here constantly. To understand Calgary, its necessary to know that it can't be separated from the dynamism that results from a constantly changing and growing population. Also as a result: Calgary's ethnic diversity has been increasing along with its general growth. Apparently takeanumber has never made a trip into the Northeast. Is there a sense of community in Calgary? How the hell should I know? All I know is that when I moved here I went out and made friends and got a girlfriend. Calgary provided a liberal environment within which to do so, and provided the symbols and context necessary to make me proud of my home. I stumbled along the Red Mile, I've spent too many leisurely hours strolling along the Bow River on Prince's Island, I've eaten at too many ethnic restaurants on 17th and in the NE, I've window-shopped in Kensington too often, and I've spent many productive hours on the grassy hills of the supposedly ugly U of C campus. Then again, I hate the Stampede. Defining culture or community is for people with too much time on their hands. And people in Calgary don't have time on their hands; they're too busy contributing to the dynamism that is the only only real defining characteristic of the city and to building Canada's greatest city. Come to Calgary. We need you, and you'll never have any reason to look back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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