betsy Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) This question was due to the incident at United States section: http://www.mapleleaf...ic=22138&st=105 Well, I do not support the list of gun owners being published and I'm the one who reported you. And I would do it again. From what I understand, it was Bryan who felt personally insulted. If Bryan decided not to pursue the matter to the extent of actually reporting about it - why should anyone do it? Isn't this being petty? Furthermore, tying up the time of the mods? If the concerned party decided to leave it at that, can't we just go along and let it go? There is a time when we do have to intervene and report to the mods (such as when someone makes a threat against a fellow-poster, etc..,) ....and there is also a time when we just leave it to the concerned parties to do what they want to do. Don't you think? Edited December 28, 2012 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 The mods decide what is a good report, what is a bad report, and when a report is abusive, and thus, gains it's own warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 As for who can report, remember what a report is. All a report is, is in effect, standing up, waving your arms, and yelling "HEY MODS, COME TAKE A LOOK AT THIS" Anybody can do it for any reason. If the mods think you are wasting their time, they are then free to warn you to not do it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 This question was due to the incident at United States section: http://www.mapleleaf...ic=22138&st=105 From what I understand, it was Bryan who felt personally insulted. If Bryan decided not to pursue the matter to the extent of actually reporting about it - why should anyone do it? A violation of the forum rules can be reported by anyone at anytime. It is then up to Sir CA and/or Sir Greg to issue warning points and/or suspensions based on whatever it is they base it on. Isn't this being petty? Furthermore, tying up the time of the mods? If the concerned party decided to leave it at that, can't we just go along and let it go? Why is it being petty to point out to CA and/or Greg that a forum rule may have been broken? What is petty is when someone takes advantage of a situation to start an ad hominem attack on another member and it goes unnoticed (either by other members and/or by CA/Greg). There is a time when we do have to intervene and report to the mods (such as when someone makes a threat against a fellow-poster, etc..,) ....and there is also a time when we just leave it to the concerned parties to do what they want to do. Don't you think? Um, no. Read the forum rules. Anyone can report another member if another member is breaking any of those forum rules. This is not rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) Thank you Teddy. Msj, you reported BCSapper and I think you also reported another one (can't recall the name).....how many have you reported so far? Edited December 28, 2012 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I have reported 681,412 in all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) I also want to know what do you think is the difference between insults? Which is more insulting....innuendoes, or direct? You replied to Signals.CPL with this retort: They have to deal with the consequences despite the fact that people like you are irrationally blaming them for something that is not their fault. http://www.mapleleaf...pic=22077&st=90 I didn't read anything coming from him to justify you insulting him, and the others that happen to mirror his views on the matter. You also gave an uncalled for statement that's meant as an insult to the queen, and disregarded the thrust of the argument being presented. MsjI also have no respect for the Queen so I do hold my former premier clients in a higher regard than I would hold her. http://www.mapleleaf...ic=22077&st=105 It is not what or how you feel for the queen...but the nurses' in question that's being discussed. Therefore, injecting that irrelevant comment is meant as an offense not only to the queen, but for those who have respect and see the queen as their monarch....those who takes their OATH of ALLEGIANCE quite seriously. There, we're talking "oaths"....that should be up your alley. And what about this statement? msjNo, the problem is that people like you who have never taken a professional oath in your life, who is completely ignorant as to what it means to take such an oath and to conduct oneself as a professional, who thinks that we professionals can just fall back and use typical excuses that ordinary people get away with. http://www.mapleleaf...ic=22077&st=135http://www.mapleleaf...ic=22077&st=135 People who'd never taken a professional oath are not only completely ignorant....but are also "ordinary" people. I guess when we compare it to your ego, everyone becomes so ordinary! ha-ha-ha! msjI have reported 681,412 in all. Well....I wouldn't have brought this up, but these insults-laden statements came from someone who seems to be very report-happy! I guess you must be our official self-appointed resident "rat." Edited December 28, 2012 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Betsy, I have reported you for, once again, cross posting. If you think I have insulted you or another member then report it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) OH NO! I'm reported!!!! Edited December 28, 2012 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) Betsy, I have reported you for, once again, cross posting. If you think I have insulted you or another member then report it. I don't easily go for the button. Maybe when I'm having a really, really bad hair day.....then, maybe? Edited December 28, 2012 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 This thread is completely pointless. If you have a question about reporting things, you should PM one of the moderators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted December 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) deleted. Wrong thread. Edited December 28, 2012 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 This thread is completely pointless. If you have a question about reporting things, you should PM one of the moderators. This. Putting this out in the public only invites others to join in on the "trouble" being "made" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 It's just her way to provoke msj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 It's just her way to provoke msj. Well there are times to post in public, in short, when you want to try to sway public opinion to your side - but these cases should be reserved for incidences when the administration seems complicit. PMing a mod to say "so and so is doing bad, please stop them" has a good chance of working, while if a mod is not doing what you feel their duties are... well lets just say, go up to anyone in any job and tell them you want them to "start doing (their) job properly" and see how well that works for you. I've posted threads like this, but only when I feel the admins are ignoring an issue and that IMHO putting some pressure on them will get the problem resolved. Otherwise I go straight to the admins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manny Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 That guy msj is the one who got me suspended, and then afterward made taunting posts about me to which I did not respond. I reported it to the mods but never heard a thing back from them. He is the type who will make provocative, jeering statements and then if you try to have fun with him, he will immediately report you. In a few of the threads I pointed out to the mods, he swoops in, says something off topic, usually in my case or with Betsy it's about insulting someones religion. Then he waits for someone to make a response. so he can make his move. I call that TROLLING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Damn that msj!! Not to mention he can cause gastro instesinal distress in some people. Oh wait... That's msg.... Never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 That guy msj is the one who got me suspended, and then afterward made taunting posts about me to which I did not respond. I reported it to the mods but never heard a thing back from them. He is the type who will make provocative, jeering statements and then if you try to have fun with him, he will immediately report you. In a few of the threads I pointed out to the mods, he swoops in, says something off topic, usually in my case or with Betsy it's about insulting someones religion. Then he waits for someone to make a response. so he can make his move. I call that TROLLING. See now THAT is a good reason for a public-calling-someone-out thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 That guy msj is the one who got me suspended, and then afterward made taunting posts about me to which I did not respond. I reported it to the mods but never heard a thing back from them. I really do not know why this is so hard for people to understand: if you do not want to get suspended then you do not write certain things. Wishing I was dead was most certainly worth some kind of suspension and you have no one to blame but yourself. He is the type who will make provocative, jeering statements and then if you try to have fun with him, he will immediately report you. And you know this how? You have no idea how much or how little I have actually reported people. In a few of the threads I pointed out to the mods, Funny this. Seems like I had no idea how much you report people either... he swoops in, says something off topic, usually in my case or with Betsy it's about insulting someones religion. Then he waits for someone to make a response. so he can make his move. I call that TROLLING. Then report me for crying out loud. If what I say is insulting or is off topic then go ahead and report me. Of go into that topic and explain to me how my post is off topic or show me where I have made an insult. By all means - educate me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 See now THAT is a good reason for a public-calling-someone-out thread. Yep, it would be if he could back it up with some substance. Yes, I did make a joke in poor taste to Manny recently and received a warning point for it (rightfully so and I am not whining about that - I should not have written my bad joke and take full responsibility for it). There is substance to that. But the other stuff really comes down to Manny disagreeing with what I have to say which is not the same thing as trolling or doing the other things he accuses me of doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Frankly, if he won't report you after the admins have told us time and time again to report people, he is more of a rulebreaker than you are (presuming what he says is true - and do nor know or care if it is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderfish Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 msj... I have no dog in this hunt, but i have a question. The remark being discussed had nothing at all to do with you, it was a comment made by someone else to someone else. Why did you feel you needed to get involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 I have already explained my reasoning within that thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderfish Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) Yes, I read the thread. I read your post on how kimmy is sexist, bcsapper violated the rules in a number of ways, on and on. What I didn't read is a single post in the thread contributed by you that really had anything to do with the topic being discussed. Edited December 28, 2012 by Spiderfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 kimmy is not sexist. What she stated was sexist. There is a difference. Other than that, your attempt to reopen the discussion here is not going to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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