Topaz Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 Since the Tory from Ontario will stay elected, there is still more problems that surfaced in the last election and I wondering if Canada is going to be like those other countries, that have import watchers when election time comes. one of the problems were that voters showed up at some polls without being registered. I think that those voters shouldn't be able to vote because there is a program that tells voters a head of time, to make sure they are registered to vote. Elections are too serious an event and there should not be a gray area on this. The voters must take responsility for themselves that they are registered. Parties also, should not make any robocalls 24 hours before an election. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/10/25/pol-election-lingering-questions.html Quote
scribblet Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 Voters can be registered and vote if they show up at the correct riding with proper ID etc., no reason why they shouldn't be able to, it's the process and irregularities on the part of workers that was the problem. It's been my experience that many of the workers don't seem to be able to understand or follow instructions. This had nothing to do with 'robocalls' or fraud, Elections Canada has said it will improve training starting with the upcoming by elections. This is case law now so doesn't bode well for the radical left wing group trying to disenfranchise voters in other ridings. From the decision “we reject the candidate’s [borys Wrzesnewskyj’s] attempt to disenfranchise entitled voters and so undermine public confidence in the electoral process.” “There is no allegation of any fraud, corruption or illegal practices. Nor is there any suggestion of wrongdoing by any candidate or political party.” “[borys Wrzesnewskyj] asks this Court to disqualify the votes of several Canadian citizens” Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Moonbox Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 If a Liberal candidate would have won, Topaz would have been 100% in support of the decision. Instead, since the Tories won, he'll even argue with the Supreme Court on this one. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Fletch 27 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 Since the Tory from Ontario will stay elected, there is still more problems that surfaced in the last election and I wondering if Canada is going to be like those other countries, that have import watchers when election time comes. one of the problems were that voters showed up at some polls without being registered. I think that those voters shouldn't be able to vote because there is a program that tells voters a head of time, to make sure they are registered to vote. Elections are too serious an event and there should not be a gray area on this. The voters must take responsility for themselves that they are registered. Parties also, should not make any robocalls 24 hours before an election. http://www.cbc.ca/ne...-questions.html So, the fact that there was no irregularities does not apply to a Tory? Its a SHAME that the left will try to insight fear and uncertainty in our Political process. This smacks of the cold-war communits propaganda machine.. Let socialism reighn regardless of the votes.... Quote
g_bambino Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 [T]here should not be a gray area on this. The Supreme Court disagreed. According to its ruling, if every minute rule is applied rigorously, that's likely to deny people with the right to vote their ability to vote. In other words: we have to accept some human error; people aren't perfect. Quote
login Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) People should be able to vote anywhere they want. But Elections Canada should assign a number/letter combination to everyone eligible to vote, and that should be used, and ticked off. Then afterwards Elections Canada should perform an audit of where and when the person voted and match it with the tag number/letter code assigned to them as being used in those circumstances, actually engaging those voters and verifying the information. People should be able to "self audit" also. Ideally the vote would also be logged and people would be able to verify thier vote, but we know people are too paranoid in a "secret" vote system. It should be public. Peoples vote should be public. It would effectively make elections fraud impossible. Since only the number/letter is public.. the public won't know but people should be able to flag their vote as "Appearing wrong" in the database. They should have a week or two to verify the vote, before the election results are released, then people should have a couple more weeks before it becomes official, depending on any irregularities. We must destroy super partisanship. People should not have fears of who they vote for... it is wrong to support that type of system. Electons have to be made "peaceable" fear of reprisal is not something that should be in the Canadian mindset when it comes to democratic rights. This fill out a ballot anyone can stuff or rig is total nonsense. Allowing politics to become or allow it to continue to be so scued as to require that sort of backward practice is totally contradictory to establishment of a free and fair society in support of liberty and freedom housed in a legitimate democratic society. Edited October 26, 2012 by login Quote
g_bambino Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 People should be able to vote anywhere they want. But Elections Canada should assign a number/letter combination to everyone eligible to vote, and that should be used, and ticked off. How does that person vote for the candidates in their riding from anywhere? Quote
login Posted October 27, 2012 Report Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) How does that person vote for the candidates in their riding from anywhere? By picking a riding to vote for. It really doesn't matter, the concept of representative is a personal chocie based upon ones easiest access to a representative. The concept of riding is based on individuals with a single point of residence. The only past requirement to vote was to be present at the time of the vote. People could even vote in multiple elections at various locations as long as they could make it there on the same day if the vote occured on the same day. I think the system would be much better if people had one vote and could vote for who they wanted, but they can choose someone else at a later time if they so choose, but this is secondary. The bottom line is one vote for each federal election. The issue however with bylaws. The idea is that you must have a residence but this disadvantages individuals with multiple residences as well as individuals without a residence. The system is perfect but the main point I am trying to get across it that individuals should be able to have who they want to represent them, the first past the post system just isn't perfect. There already is mail in voting. However elections Canada sets up show everywhere, all votes should be recorded in a database. This database can then be used to verify the vote. Edited October 27, 2012 by login Quote
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