Conservative economics are failing us

[Fletch 27]

Pretty simple to increase TAX revenues by increasing the economy. Can you please stick with your argument that you can increase revenue regardless of the tax rate? I'm still very interested in your methodology. Or we can change the subject as you are trying.... stick to your point or pony up to you falsehoods.

Again, as economy grows, so does income for feds via numerous taxes. That is very very very smple math. It's one plus one. YOUR point is that the revenues can increase WITHOUT a tax on par. Again, how...?

Your point was that the feds could increase revenues without increasing taxes. Ai would like to see your points/ideas/proposals.

Typical...

No more name calling or assumptions on education. We are adults here and this forum should be kept in line with such. I think I we could all agree on civility in this forum.

Thank you

Edited October 12, 2012 by Fletch 27

[cybercoma]

You're switching between two different ideas.

1) Revenues can increase without tax

2) Revenues can increase without increasing taxes

I made the second point, not the first. Although the first is still true, even if it wouldn't cover the costs we're discussing. For example, the government also gets revenues from investments and the sale of goods/services.

[BC_chick]

Edit - deleted. Sorry, I posted on the wrong thread. I'm not used to this forum format yet.

Edited October 12, 2012 by BC_chick

[dre]

Pretty simple to increase TAX revenues by increasing the economy. Can you please stick with your argument that you can increase revenue regardless of the tax rate? I'm still very interested in your methodology. Or we can change the subject as you are trying.... stick to your point or pony up to you falsehoods.

Again, as economy grows, so does income for feds via numerous taxes. That is very very very smple math. It's one plus one. YOUR point is that the revenues can increase WITHOUT a tax on par. Again, how...?

Your point was that the feds could increase revenues without increasing taxes. Ai would like to see your points/ideas/proposals.

Typical...

No more name calling or assumptions on education. We are adults here and this forum should be kept in line with such. I think I we could all agree on civility in this forum.

Thank you

Dude, are you kidding? Its so freakin clear and obvious what is being said to you, and its not even remotely contraversial. Government revenues CAN increase without tax rates increasing, although contrary to what supply siders tell you one isnt going to actually cause the other.

[CPCFTW]

While we're talking about supply-side economics, let's talk about what the laffer curve doesn't address: spending.

As we increase taxes, growth/employment is slowed, necessitating greater government expenditures. While the tax increase may still raise government revenues prior to the peak of the laffer curve, the point at which increased expenditures exceeds increased revenue is much earlier along the laffer curve. Have we reached/passed that point?

How does globalization impact the laffer curve? Multinationals make it plausible to think that the curve would peak much earlier now and in the future.

[Mr.Canada]

PM Harper is a brilliant economist who is helping our economy and not allowing the NDP to harm it.

[Fletch 27]

With a "revenue tax"..... It's not a tax! It's revenue! Really! "it will only hurt a little bit".... And it's not a tax! NDP-erz..........

[cybercoma]

With a "revenue tax"..... It's not a tax! It's revenue! Really! "it will only hurt a little bit".... And it's not a tax! NDP-erz..........

Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

[bleeding heart]

Yes, we are all quite sick and tired of the way that the NDP's tax policies are harming us.

[Rocky Road]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/10/14/business/global/imf-urges-us-and-europe-to-act-decisively-on-debt.xml

hmmm, gloom n doom.