WWWTT Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 If someone here can provide the appropriate links I appreciate it greatly.(CBC I believe have some) What is Trudeau thinking by recording a robocall that was sent out to residents in Kitchener Waterloo telling them that voting for Catherine Fife would be a threat to national unity?!?!? When I first heard this I thought it could not be true because it is such a crazy thing to do in my opinion! But there it was,many citizens in Kitchener Waterloo are claiming to have received these calls from Justin.As well they received them less than one hour before the polls closed. It's in my opinion that this will only hurt himself and the liberals more. Any thoughts? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
punked Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 Anyone who sends out a Robo call 1 hour before polls close, if that is what happened, is a moron. Most people let unrecognized numbers go to the machine thus they listen to it hours later. It wouldn't do anything. Quote
madmax Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 Yes it happened. Complete lack of judgement on Justin Trudeaus part. A smart person would have never recorded the message in the first place. Completely absurd if not a totally foolish and desperate move. Its one of the reasons I think the Liberals will never recover from the cellar. They want to play the Sovereignty card. Quote
waldo Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 guys, guys - get a grip! Your false outrage over the timing should be directed at the provincial Liberals... surely Trudeau doesn't control just when the robocalls actually go out... ya think! guys, c'mon; just days before the election close, Muclair pops up in KW at a 'Fife rally'... and proceeds to rail against the "right-leaning McGuinty"... urging supporters not to give McGuinty his majority. Seems to me, that's "game on". From what I read, after that appearance, the Ontario Liberals approached Trudeau - Trudeau says, "Liberals in Ontario asked me to help out in their byelections, and I recorded voice drops for both." now, in keeping with the described Trudeau content, perhaps you might want to reinforce your support for the federal NDP 'Sherbrooke Declaration'... itself just reaffirmed in recent days by the NDP. Perhaps emphasize why the NDP felt it necessary to go beyond the Clarity Act - the act the NDP initially supported. The prevailing critical summation on the NDP 'Sherbrooke Declaraction', is that it is inconsistent with the Clarity Act. Well... is it? Quote
WWWTT Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Posted September 9, 2012 Anyone who sends out a Robo call 1 hour before polls close, if that is what happened, is a moron. Most people let unrecognized numbers go to the machine thus they listen to it hours later. It wouldn't do anything. Ya I do not think that this is something that you can make up. I first thought that this story was not true because the allegation is in regards to federal jurisdiction,and this is a provincial election. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
waldo Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 Ya I do not think that this is something that you can make up. I've read hours... but who is counting, other than you? In any case, as already stated, surely you can't attribute the actual timing of the 'sent calls' to anyone other than the provincial Liberals, can you? I first thought that this story was not true because the allegation is in regards to federal jurisdiction,and this is a provincial election. see Muclair in the last days of the campaign appearing at a Fife rally. But really, I'm confused... I've repeatedly read partisan NDP supporters on MLW speak to the "oneness" of the NDP brand, be it federal or provincial - go figure! now, about that NDP 'Sherbrooke Declaration'... supposedly... being inconsistent with the Clarity Act... is it? Quote
WWWTT Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Posted September 9, 2012 guys, guys - get a grip! Your false outrage over the timing should be directed at the provincial Liberals... surely Trudeau doesn't control just when the robocalls actually go out... ya think! I don't think that any of us are outraged about this (not me anyways). Its more like shock or surprise that a federal MP would record a robocall claiming that a provincial bi election could have a federal impact.And a unity federal issue!?!?!? Hey if this is what J.T. is about then good luck liberals! Enough said! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Posted September 9, 2012 I've read hours... but who is counting, other than you? In any case, as already stated, surely you can't attribute the actual timing of the 'sent calls' to anyone other than the provincial Liberals, can you? I am not making any claim that it was Justin's responsibility as to the timing of the residents receiving the robo calls.So we have no argument there. And yes Mulcair was at Fife's rally on labor day(actually he was at the labor day parade that day in Toronto and then went out to KW that afternoon,I was invited but too busy for the bus trip). As well he was not the only federal NDP MP to attend Fife's rallies. There was also Olivia Chow,Peggy Nash and the MP from Scarborough Rouge river (I always forget her name). But to make a claim about federal unity?!?! And in a robocall to boot!?!??! Who came up with that idea??? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Guest Derek L Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 And let the NDP/LPC grudge match begin………….Now that’s gold. Coupled with a resurgent sovereignty movement in Quebec, I’ll go long and predict a Trudeau centric Official Opposition as a result of the next election (CPC majority of course), followed in the next cycle by a Trudeau Government (Tory Opposition)…………..The NDP? Back to their earned position of the Parliamentary Dog & Pony show in 3rd……….Maybe 4th? Quote
waldo Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 Its more like shock or surprise that a federal MP would record a robocall claiming that a provincial bi election could have a federal impact. And a unity federal issue!?!?!?Hey if this is what J.T. is about then good luck liberals! I've not read an actual transcript of one of the calls... all I keep reading are generalizations that work to align the content/intent to provide a clear delineation of the NDP 'Sherbrooke Declaration'. Do you have a transcript to support your pushing the OP? are you simply giving Muclair a 'free pass' for appearing at the Fife rally... criticizing McGunity? That's fair game in your concern over 'provincial/federal' linkage? Quote
waldo Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 And let the NDP/LPC grudge match begin………….Now that’s gold. don't you have a gun thread to get your freak on, hey? Quote
WWWTT Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Posted September 9, 2012 And let the NDP/LPC grudge match begin………….Now that’s gold. Coupled with a resurgent sovereignty movement in Quebec, I’ll go long and predict a Trudeau centric Official Opposition as a result of the next election (CPC majority of course), followed in the next cycle by a Trudeau Government (Tory Opposition)…………..The NDP? Back to their earned position of the Parliamentary Dog & Pony show in 3rd……….Maybe 4th? Man that's freekin funny! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Guest Derek L Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) don't you have a gun thread to get your freak on, hey? At the moment, I find the feigned outrage here much more interesting…………Don’t mind me, I’ll keep my mouth shut and watch the festivities from a distance………..Sure fire way to keep out of the way of the airborne feces Edited September 9, 2012 by Derek L Quote
WWWTT Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Posted September 9, 2012 are you simply giving Muclair a 'free pass' for appearing at the Fife rally... criticizing McGunity? That's fair game in your concern over 'provincial/federal' linkage? Hey I think that Mulcair and the NDP are the best thing for Canada since BN act! They got rid of all those Bloq seats! However this thread is not about the Sherbrooke declaration . This thread is about JT recording a robocall about federal unity in a provincial bi election. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Posted September 9, 2012 don't you have a gun thread to get your freak on, hey? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
waldo Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 However this thread is not about the Sherbrooke declaration.This thread is about JT recording a robocall about federal unity in a provincial bi election. I mean... I can draw you a map... if you'd like? You seem to be all in, all done, on the call content... yet you've said diddly squat about the actual call content. You know... the content that I'm reading generalizations of that draw attention to the NDP 'Sherbrooke Declaration'. I was also quite taken with Muclair's railing against a provincial Liberal McGuinty majority... cause he has such difficulty working against one on a federal level - huh! Quote
Tilter Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 Hey I think that Mulcair and the NDP are the best thing for Canada since BN act! WWWTT Gee---- I'm really surprised to hear you say that :blink: Gee---- I'm really surprised to hear you say that Gee---- I'm really surprised to hear you say that Gee---- I'm really surprised to hear you say that Quote
WWWTT Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Posted September 9, 2012 Gee---- I'm really surprised to hear you say that :blink: Gee---- I'm really surprised to hear you say that Gee---- I'm really surprised to hear you say that Gee---- I'm really surprised to hear you say that Ya well I'm not surprised that you write these kind of comments! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Argus Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 guys, guys - get a grip! Your false outrage over the timing should be directed at the provincial Liberals... surely Trudeau doesn't control just when the robocalls actually go out... ya think! Does he control his own mouth? How is the election of a provincial MPP in Ontario a threat to national unity? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
madmax Posted September 10, 2012 Report Posted September 10, 2012 guys, guys - get a grip! Your false outrage over the timing should be directed at the provincial Liberals... surely Trudeau doesn't control just when the robocalls actually go out... ya think! No False outrage here. I think its just stupid, stupid, stupid thing to do. Quote
madmax Posted September 10, 2012 Report Posted September 10, 2012 No false outrage here either.... I really don't like this spam creeping in.... Quote
PIK Posted September 10, 2012 Report Posted September 10, 2012 More and more this looks like the cons had nothing to do with these scandals. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
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