MiddleClassCentrist Posted September 4, 2012 Report Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) “This is unprecedented,” she said. “Even (Prime Minister)Stephen Harper when his government created back to work legislation for Air Canada workers didn't try to deny the right to arbitrate settlements,” she said. “This putting Students First Act is really putting democracy last. “It's dangerous, it denies the right to strike, denies the right to an arbitrated settlement and denies the right to any legal challenge.” http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/2012/09/03/labour-day-activities Has Dalton flown under the radar in his swing from centre to ultra right wing stance on labour? Lack of arbitration, not even with a completely biased arbitrator like the Conservatives do? Interestingly enough, his stance isn't homogeneous in application. Right now it only seems to apply to Highschool and Elementary teachers. College teachers only had to accept a wage freeze and kept their grid and other benefits Dalton is attacking for the Elementary and Secondary workers. Why the double standard? College teachers have it even easier, they don't have to care if their students don't show up or fail. No idiot parents to deal with... Edited September 4, 2012 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
TheNewTeddy Posted September 4, 2012 Report Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) He should apply this to all public sector workers. He should also apply a 1/3rd wage cut to all public sector workers of all sorts paid from the provincial purse. Eliminate the deficit by tomorrow, literally. Edited September 4, 2012 by TheNewTeddy Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Argus Posted September 4, 2012 Report Posted September 4, 2012 He should apply this to all public sector workers. He should also apply a 1/3rd wage cut to all public sector workers of all sorts paid from the provincial purse. Eliminate the deficit by tomorrow, literally. You willing to take a 1/3 salary cut too? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
blueblood Posted September 4, 2012 Report Posted September 4, 2012 You willing to take a 1/3 salary cut too? Yet you believe that rich people should. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
TimG Posted September 4, 2012 Report Posted September 4, 2012 He should apply this to all public sector workers. He should also apply a 1/3rd wage cut to all public sector workers of all sorts paid from the provincial purse.Not necessary. Freeze wages for the foreseeable future and bring benefit packages and work rules in line with the private sector. I like the net zero rule from BC. i.e. tell the unions the onus is on them to keep total compensation growth to zero but allow them to get wage increases if they reduce benefits or other costs by an equal amount. Quote
MiddleClassCentrist Posted September 5, 2012 Author Report Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) Not necessary. Freeze wages for the foreseeable future and bring benefit packages and work rules in line with the private sector. I like the net zero rule from BC. i.e. tell the unions the onus is on them to keep total compensation growth to zero but allow them to get wage increases if they reduce benefits or other costs by an equal amount. That's the right that teachers in Ontario are fighting for. To negotiate such a thing. Edited September 5, 2012 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
TimG Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 That's the right that teachers in Ontario are fighting for. To negotiate such a thing.The teachers unions in BC refuses to accept net zero as a basis for negotiation and claims the government is taking away their rights. For years the government has used its power to tax and borrow to buy union silence. Now the spending has to stop and unions need to give back their ill gotten gains. When union leaders acknowledge this then there may be a basis for negotiation. Until then what is the point? Nothing the government does will be good enough and the union will still whine. Sounds like McGinty is saving taxpayers a lot of time and effort. Quote
dre Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 Yet you believe that rich people should. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
madmax Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 Yet you believe that rich people should. Much of the Middle and Lower Middle Class have , and its not worked out so good for them or the local Economy. But its too late... for them. yet there are some who want blood. Spread that pain around. Meanwhile incompetent and semi corrupt governments seem to be spending money on connected friends and large bonuses remain the order of the day. Quote
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