mentalfloss Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 Alberta has the lowest rate of attendance because good paying jobs that don't require degrees are plentiful. Yea, the oilsands. Geography can be kind if you're situated in the right spot. Quote
Smallc Posted May 16, 2012 Report Posted May 16, 2012 Quebec has one of the lowest rates of attendance in Canada at university because they have a 24% flat tax? No, I was saying that he was oversimplifying his comparison. Quebec, like most provinces, has a progressive tax system. 24% is the top rate. Quote
jacee Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 Quebec has one of the lowest rates of attendance in Canada at university because they have a 24% flat tax? You'll have to explain that. Alberta has the lowest rate of attendance because good paying jobs that don't require degrees are plentiful. I find it quite odd that Alberta is recruiting worldwide for qualified technical people, but unwilling to invest that money in encouraging, educating and training their own people to fill those jobs. Very odd indeed. Employers in Canada spend very little on educating and training employees, compared to other developed countries. They spend a lot of time and effort complaining and recruiting out of country instead. Very odd. Quote
Guest Manny Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 No, I was saying that he was oversimplifying his comparison. Quebec, like most provinces, has a progressive tax system. 24% is the top rate. I posted the data for people to look at, I shouldn't have to repeat it here. But since you're being stubborn about it. The top rate in Quebec cuts in at about 80k, 24%. Highest in the country. The rate for Ontario in this same bracket is 11%. That's more than double, if you do math. And this difference is more or less consistent across all wages, across the board. Even the middle range of 40-80K is at 20%, higher than any of the other provinces, in any range. Quote
Guest Manny Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) And from my earlier post in this thread: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/13-605-x/2003001/chrono/2003prov/4151911-eng.htm Income comparison here is a chart from this report to illustrate what's going on with incomes between provinces. http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/13-605-x/2003001/chrono/2003prov/images/pdi01.gif Quebec vs. Alberta... anyone? Almost 30% less disposable income. Quebecers should rightly ask why they are paying more, when the services they want are being taken from them. Edited May 17, 2012 by Manny Quote
wyly Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 Quebec has one of the lowest rates of attendance in Canada at university because they have a 24% flat tax? You'll have to explain that. Alberta has the lowest rate of attendance because good paying jobs that don't require degrees are plentiful. but that's artificial, without oil those people would be in a shit load of trouble any downturn in the price of oil results in layoffs of oil workers and in related service industries...and many if not most of those jobs still require post secondary education at a technical college...education will always be the best bet against poverty... Denmark from what I've read has virtually free education, the logic being that an educated population will save the country money in the long term with a more productive employed population, similar to how preventive medicine avoids costly intensive care later... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Smallc Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 The top rate in Quebec cuts in at about 80k, 24%. Highest in the country. It's probably no higher than a few other provinces once you take into account the federal abatement that Quebec taxpayers get. The Quebec government has taken over some federal functions that they are constitutionally allowed to, so the provincial government pays for them, and so Quebecers aren't taxed for those things. Quote
jbg Posted May 19, 2012 Report Posted May 19, 2012 The violence made the New York Times (link) this week. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
cybercoma Posted June 9, 2012 Report Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) . Edited June 9, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
punked Posted June 9, 2012 Report Posted June 9, 2012 It's probably no higher than a few other provinces once you take into account the federal abatement that Quebec taxpayers get. The Quebec government has taken over some federal functions that they are constitutionally allowed to, so the provincial government pays for them, and so Quebecers aren't taxed for those things. I haven't got to say this enough to you in the last year. Good point. Quote
kolak Posted June 9, 2012 Report Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) Protests are taking an anarchist/anti-capitalist turn now against the Formula 1 race. Too bad, looks like it would have been a great race weekend (great weather). What I find most ironic is that the violent protesters (largely the anarchist/anti-capitalist groups) are complaining about wealth inequality etc, which by protesting they are in essence supporting. The Quebec and Montreal government AND people are loosing a lot of money because of the violent protesters, which is in turn hurting business, lowering employment in industries that employ students, increasing government spending (on cleanup and police) etc. The students with a legitimate complaint against tuition cost increases should try and distance themselves from the violent groups as much as possible to hope to succeed (in my opinion). I found an interesting article by former F1 driver and fellow Quebecer Jacques Villeneuve on CBC. "Villeneuve said: "I think these people grew up without ever hearing their parents ever tell them, 'No.'" Link - fixed link Edited June 9, 2012 by kolak Quote
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