madmax Posted April 24, 2012 Report Posted April 24, 2012 I was surprised by the outcome of Alberta Election. The WildRose were more of a protest reactionary party rather then a party ready to take government. The meltdown in the last week will go in the history book as to how to lose a campaign, doing an even better job of blowing it then Harper did in 2004 when he called the Prime Minister of Canada a supporter of pedophiles. What is of most interest is that the Albertans turned and punished the WR for their intolerance vs and old and tired PC government. If you take away the Social Conservatism and intolerance, you end up with another version of the PC party. It looks like the PCs have grown another 9 lives and the WildRose will become less popular over time... Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted April 24, 2012 Report Posted April 24, 2012 Hell no. Wildrose is positioned to win the next election. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Michael Hardner Posted April 24, 2012 Report Posted April 24, 2012 There was a similar protest party in Quebec - the ADQ - who swept from nowhere to threaten leadership, then back to nowhere. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
cubed Posted April 24, 2012 Report Posted April 24, 2012 I hope so. This province has enough conservatism as it is. I like the PC's cause they are more to the center, where the gray reality we live in lives. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted April 24, 2012 Report Posted April 24, 2012 What is of most interest is that the Albertans turned and punished the WR for their intolerance vs and old and tired PC government. a complete misread of the situation,at both ends of the sentence. Oh well. Quote The government should do something.
Topaz Posted April 24, 2012 Report Posted April 24, 2012 Sun TV last night that WR would win and that all of the federal Tories from Alberta were on the side of the Rose except Rona Ambrose, who is friends with Redford. Quote
Wild Bill Posted April 24, 2012 Report Posted April 24, 2012 Once again people seem to be letting their wishes affect their judgement. The people who voted for the Wild Rose Party are not going to go away. They are not likely to just go back to the PCs. So the question really is, will support for the Wild Rose Party grow or shrink for the next election? The Wild Rose is a new and inexperienced party. Apparently, they made some grievous mistakes during their campaign and particularly with some of the responses of the leadership debate. One can only expect them to learn from their mistakes as time goes on. One should look at Ontario to see a similar situation. Dalton McGuinty did not truly win the last election. Rather, Tim Hudak and his PCs lost it! Just as John Duffy had lost it for the PCs the election before. As I often have posted, any salesman knows it is never enough to just knock your competition. You also have to give people a good reason to think that switching to YOU would be better! The Wild Rose failed to do that, despite widespread disappointment with the present Alberta PC party. It was the same in Ontario. McGuinty has very little respect with most people. It's just that Hudak is frankly, boring! He has never successfully presented his leadership and his party as any BETTER than the Ontario Liberals! The Alberta PCs have a golden opportunity to mend fences with the support that had drifted over to the Wild Rose Party. If they just sit on their collective asses and sigh with relief that they won the election they will only be sorry the next time. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
TheNewTeddy Posted April 24, 2012 Report Posted April 24, 2012 There was a similar protest party in Quebec - the ADQ - who swept from nowhere to threaten leadership, then back to nowhere. Except that another protest party swept from nothing to the top! The CAQ! At least in the polls. Then they went to nowhere... Then ANOTHER protest party again swept from nothing to the top! Last time I checked, they, and their new Quebec leader, were topping federal polls. You can be the Commonwealth Party of Canada, or the National Party, or Canadian Action Party, but you could be the Reform Party or Social Credit, or the CCF. It is not easy to tell which parties will take off and which will just vanish. Wildrose takes from the same pool of voters that Reform and the Alliance did, and that is why they have an excellent chance of sticking around. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Fletch 27 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Posted April 27, 2012 This is the rise of the Wild-Rose party... Just as the Reform party was a ground up, grass roots movement years ago.. Many of my friends have moved to Alberta (from Toronto's GTA, about 10 of them and family) and the message from the wild-rose reverberated with them with the years under Dalton McGuinty.. As the Reform evolved,, so will the Wild-Rose, and they will grow and pull more mindshare from voters who are sick and tired of waste and miss-mamagement.. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted April 27, 2012 Report Posted April 27, 2012 Except that another protest party swept from nothing to the top! The CAQ! At least in the polls. Then they went to nowhere... Then ANOTHER protest party again swept from nothing to the top! Last time I checked, they, and their new Quebec leader, were topping federal polls. You can be the Commonwealth Party of Canada, or the National Party, or Canadian Action Party, but you could be the Reform Party or Social Credit, or the CCF. It is not easy to tell which parties will take off and which will just vanish. Wildrose takes from the same pool of voters that Reform and the Alliance did, and that is why they have an excellent chance of sticking around. Another protest party was propelled to the Official Opposition last May, we'll find out how the NDP make out in 3 years. Quote
madmax Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Posted April 27, 2012 a complete misread of the situation,at both ends of the sentence. Oh well. I have read your other posts.. have at her...but I believe you answered this in the Federal thread you posted... !!! Quote
madmax Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Posted April 27, 2012 You can be the Commonwealth Party of Canada, or the National Party, or Canadian Action Party, but you could be the Reform Party or Social Credit, or the CCF. It is not easy to tell which parties will take off and which will just vanish. Wildrose takes from the same pool of voters that Reform and the Alliance did, and that is why they have an excellent chance of sticking around. Good points.. Quote
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