F-35 Purchase

[waldo]

my assertion? Buddy, I simply relayed political analysis that's playing out through many U.S. media channels... analysis that's pretty easy given LockMart's posturing and the practical extension of that posturing butted up against the start of sequestration (Jan 1, 2013) and the lead time for layoff notices to go out (3 months prior)... well hey, lookee there! That's right before the U.S. election. Wow, that's a heavy-hand being played out by LockMart... don't you think?

as for your expected simplistic red-blue state drivel, do you know if there are any madHatter T-Party types in Texas? You know... the ones driving the GOP bus over the cliff? But, hey now... let's stick with your simplistic take: just where are the many LockMart subcontractors located - I understand Northrup Grumman is big in such places as California and Maryland... I think those are blue, right? Would you like more?

Northrup Grumman has also promised lay-offs?

Remember, it’s not my assertion, simply me playing out the theme at your request……….Both Romney and Obama are in step with Lockheed’s current Bread and Butter……..The F-35, Flight III Aegis Burkes and BMD.

I see it's a big step for you understanding the relationship between the main and sub-contractors. Here's a clue: the subs are always in the mix when budget cuts hit. The 'bread and butter' you speak of: see sequestration! Romney? Really? He's about as relevant as you are.

[bush_cheney2004]

Yet Japan just paid 128 million for four LRIP aircraft .......Poor Waldo

Yes...like they say...money talks...bullshit walks. Kinda like stopping that global warming climate change dealio...how is that going again?

[waldo]

Now that Norway and Japan have committed to the F-35:

Norway! See the previously discussed wikileaks play on under-handed U.S. pressure. See LockMart's desperation by agreeing to integrate Norway's JSM missile into F-35! Ya, ya... it was all on the merits of the vapourware F-35!

[Guest Derek L]

I see it's a big step for you understanding the relationship between the main and sub-contractors. Here's a clue: the subs are always in the mix when budget cuts hit. The 'bread and butter' you speak of: see sequestration! Romney? Really? He's about as relevant as you are.

So that's a no on Northrup lay-offs?

Is this no your stand alone assertion or are you reverting back to the MSM’s skirt?

[waldo]

So that's a no on Northrup lay-offs?

let me have your blogs... let me check there?

Is this no your stand alone assertion or are you reverting back to the MSM’s skirt?

huh! Is there a translator in the MLW house?

[Guest Derek L]

Norway! See the previously discussed wikileaks play on under-handed U.S. pressure. See LockMart's desperation by agreeing to integrate Norway's JSM missile into F-35! Ya, ya... it was all on the merits of the vapourware F-35!

So the evil Military-Industrial Complex strikes again?

Will this be your recycled cry until the first delivery of the CF-35?

[Guest Derek L]

let me have your blogs... let me check there?

huh! Is there a translator in the MLW house?

Is this now your stand alone assertion or are you reverting back to the MSM’s skirt?

Hey, at least you're good at Spelling and such......That's something!!

[bush_cheney2004]

F-35A night refueling:

[Guest Derek L]

F-35A night refueling:

But what about the pilot’s helmet HUD? Obviously a fake on the same level as the moon landings…….or the most troubled member of the JSF family:

[waldo]

So the evil Military-Industrial Complex strikes again?

since there is no viable F-35 today, since one isn't expected until, most optimistically 2017 (per the latest U.S. GAO), since related production would correspondingly extend into 2020+, it is most prudent to provide a perspective on your gratuitous chest-thumping. You know, provide background details that highlight the undo-pressures playing out... the pressures that have nothing to do with the actual capabilities (make that lack of capabilities) within JSFail F-35.

[bush_cheney2004]

Meanwhile....back in Canada....

[waldo]

Hey, at least you're good at Spelling and such......That's something!!

no, sorry... did not correlate your MSM skirt drivel. I'll leave the spelling for you to deal with.

[Guest Derek L]

since there is no viable F-35 today, since one isn't expected until, most optimistically 2017 (per the latest U.S. GAO), since related production would correspondingly extend into 2020+, it is most prudent to provide a perspective on your gratuitous chest-thumping. You know, provide background details that highlight the undo-pressures playing out... the pressures that have nothing to do with the actual capabilities (make that lack of capabilities) within JSFail F-35.

But was it not esteemed member Waldo’s assertion that the recent Norwegian and Japanese purchases are due in part to the arm twisting of their respected Governments by Lockheed and their puppets in the US State Department?

[bush_cheney2004]

But what about the pilot’s helmet HUD? Obviously a fake on the same level as the moon landings…….or the most troubled member of the JSF family:

To borrow a great line from Airport, "That's one nice thing about the F-35. It can do everything BUT read GAO reports".

[Guest Derek L]

no, sorry... did not correlate your MSM skirt drivel. I'll leave the spelling for you to deal with.

In response to:

Buddy, I simply relayed political analysis that's playing out through many U.S. media channels.

[Guest Derek L]

To borrow a great line from Airport, "That's one nice thing about the F-35. It can do everything BUT read GAO reports".

Good ole Joe Patroni......He's still alive I think......I wonder My wife wonders if Carter McKay will return to the new Dallas.....

[waldo]

But what about the pilot’s helmet HUD? Obviously a fake on the same level as the moon landings…….or the most troubled member of the JSF family:

you're quite boring... again, from the weeks old latest U.S. GAO report - do a googly on 'symbology', hey? How do like the following fake moon landing apples, hey?

Development of critical mission systems providing core combat capabilities remains behind schedule and risky. To date, only 4 percent of the mission systems required for full capability have been verified.

Deficiencies with the helmet mounted display, integral to mission systems functionality and concepts of operation, are most problematic.

The autonomic logistics information system, integral technology for improving aircraft availability and lowering support costs, is not fully developed

The helmet mounted display in particular continues to have significant technical deficiencies

that make it less functional than legacy equipment. The display is integral to the mission systems architecture, reducing pilot workload, and the overall JSF concept of operations—displaying key aircraft performance information as well as tactical situational awareness and weapons employment information on the pilot’s helmet visor, replacing conventional heads-up display systems. Helmet problems include integration of the night vision capability, display jitter, and latency (or delay) in transmitting sensor data. These shortfalls may lead to a helmet unable to fully meet warfighter requirements—unsuitable for flight tasks and weapon delivery, as well as creating an unmanageable pilot workload, and may place limitations on the JSF’s operational environment,

according to program officials

.

[waldo]

since there is no viable F-35 today, since one isn't expected until, most optimistically 2017 (per the latest U.S. GAO), since related production would correspondingly extend into 2020+, it is most prudent to provide a perspective on your gratuitous chest-thumping. You know, provide background details that highlight the undo-pressures playing out... the pressures that have nothing to do with the actual capabilities (make that lack of capabilities) within JSFail F-35.

But was it not esteemed member Waldo’s assertion that the recent Norwegian and Japanese purchases are due in part to the arm twisting of their respected Governments by Lockheed and their puppets in the US State Department?

how slow/obtuse are you - really? I mean, really... I detail the background pressures that had influence on both... I then make related reference to them (the pressures) in the post you reply to... and then... you need to seek confirmation of same? Is it time for your nappy?

[Guest Derek L]

how slow/obtuse are you - really? I mean, really... I detail the background pressures that had influence on both... I then make related reference to them (the pressures) in the post you reply to... and then... you need to seek confirmation of same? Is it time for your nappy?

Care to grant us a preview of the arm twisting associated with the other partners once they sign on the dotted line?

[Guest Derek L]

you're quite boring... again, from the weeks old latest U.S. GAO report - do a googly on 'symbology', hey? How do like the following fake moon landing apples, hey?

I'm boring? Why do you keep responding to me then?

[waldo]

Care to grant us a preview of the arm twisting associated with the other partners once they sign on the dotted line?

let's see those wet dreams of yours play out first, hey?

anyway, let me leave you with the following: I'll be gone for a few days (mountain climbing)... try not to pollute this thread with too much jingo-porn, hey?

[Guest Derek L]

let's see those wet dreams of yours play out first, hey?

anyway, let me leave you with the following: I'll be gone for a few days (mountain climbing)... try not to pollute this thread with too much jingo-porn, hey?

No problem……..And speaking of George Kennedy:

[waldo]

Which nations have left the program again?

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Most Dutch MPs back ditching the JSF fighter jet

The future of Dutch plans to buy dozens of JSF fighter jets is in doubt on Tuesday after it emerged a majority of MPs think the agreement should be scrapped.

Labour MP Angelien Eijsink said on Tuesday her party will enter a motion in parliament to cancel the JSF jet fighter project, according to media reports..

With Labour joining in calls for the project to be cancelled, there is now a parliamentary majority going into a debate on the subject on Thursday.

The Socialist party, anti-immigration PVV, left-wing Liberals D66 and green party GroenLinks all said earlier they want the project stopped.

The JSF was ordered to replace the aging fleet of F-16s, but the rising price of its development and construction has brought growing opposition and the final decision to purchase has been delayed by past coalitions.

Eijsink, whose party agreed to support the project in 2002 following advice to then prime minister Wim Kok from four right-wing Liberal VVD ministers, said the government should cut its losses and buy something 'off the shelf'.

[Guest Derek L]

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Let me know when they cancel it eh

[waldo]

Which nations have left the program again?

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Let me know when they cancel it eh

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