cybercoma Posted March 23, 2012 Report Posted March 23, 2012 I look forward to it. I can only hope that Mulcair is at the helm. Quote
Vendetta Posted March 23, 2012 Report Posted March 23, 2012 I don't like the alternatives as it stands now. And if the NDP ever formed government, I'll move into a remote cabin in the back country somewhere to die a peaceful death. Promise? Quote
capricorn Posted March 23, 2012 Report Posted March 23, 2012 Promise? The more I read your posts, the more I think there's a job for you in the war room of one of the opposition parties. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
WWWTT Posted March 24, 2012 Report Posted March 24, 2012 I look forward to it. I can only hope that Mulcair is at the helm. Actually I think Mulcair has the most baggage. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted March 24, 2012 Report Posted March 24, 2012 The more I read your posts, the more I think there's a job for you in the war room of one of the opposition parties. Haaa! You didn't answer his question! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
cybercoma Posted March 24, 2012 Report Posted March 24, 2012 Actually I think Mulcair has the most baggage. WWWTT You've made it very clear what you think of Mulcair. Quote
WLDB Posted March 28, 2012 Report Posted March 28, 2012 I almost always agree with his rants. Attack ads make me glad I dont have cable. That and all the other ads. Quote "History doesn't repeat itself-at best it sometimes rhymes"-Mark Twain
hardguy Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 They constantly run ads against the other parties. It's ridiculous and needs to stop. Campaign ads should only be run from the time an election is called until the day before an eletion. I don't need to be bombarded with any party's propaganda at any other time of the election cycle. Have you forgotten the Liberal's attack ads where they alleged the Tories would have "guns in the street's of Canada" and that Harper had a sevret agenda?? It seemds to me that you prefer to overlook the reality that it is commonly done by all prties Quote
Shakeyhands Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 Have you forgotten the Liberal's attack ads where they alleged the Tories would have "guns in the street's of Canada" and that Harper had a sevret agenda?? It seemds to me that you prefer to overlook the reality that it is commonly done by all prties {buzzer sound} When was that (horrible) ad run? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
madmax Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 Have you forgotten the Liberal's attack ads where they alleged the Tories would have "guns in the street's of Canada" and that Harper had a sevret agenda?? It seemds to me that you prefer to overlook the reality that it is commonly done by all prties Well then, if the Liberals do it.. it must be ok.. Quote
WLDB Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 {buzzer sound} When was that (horrible) ad run? 2006! Quote "History doesn't repeat itself-at best it sometimes rhymes"-Mark Twain
madmax Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 (edited) 2006! Really, that long ago.. It was a poor ad.. Edited March 30, 2012 by madmax Quote
cybercoma Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 2006! During an election campaign. Quote
WLDB Posted March 30, 2012 Report Posted March 30, 2012 During an election campaign. Yes. Unfortunately that ad will be permanently entrenched in my memory. Ugh. January 2006. Quote "History doesn't repeat itself-at best it sometimes rhymes"-Mark Twain
Shakeyhands Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 During an election campaign. Ding! Ding! Ding! DURING an election cycle. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Jack Weber Posted March 31, 2012 Report Posted March 31, 2012 Ding! Ding! Ding! DURING an election cycle. That is the key!!! I expect this stuff during an election...It's par for the course! I don't expect character assassination ads 3 and a half years ahead of time... Did I hear gutter politics somewhere? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
madmax Posted April 1, 2012 Report Posted April 1, 2012 That is the key!!! I expect this stuff during an election...It's par for the course! I don't expect character assassination ads 3 and a half years ahead of time... Did I hear gutter politics somewhere? The first i had seen of this crap.. running ads years before the election.. was with Dion. I cannot recall it happening anytime previouis in our history. I remember being offended..not by the ad but by the fact that it wasn<t even and election period and we had to be subjected to this crap. And it was the start of a new way of life for the Conservatives. All the attacks all the time.. and no peace for the general public. And ... it worked... it kept the CON base mobilized.. and it drove off alot of mainstream voters .. and it continues to drive away voters. The Conservatives did it again with iggy, are doing so now with Rae and should start anytime soon with Mulcair.. It is the new norm.. it sux but so does the party that does them... I would expect that all parties are going to have to bombard the viewers with this crap if they want to compete with the sleaze. Until someone finds a better way.. that is.. Quote
Argus Posted April 1, 2012 Report Posted April 1, 2012 That is the key!!! I expect this stuff during an election...It's par for the course! I don't expect character assassination ads 3 and a half years ahead of time... Did I hear gutter politics somewhere? Probably at your last Liberal Party convention. The reason there are political ads outside of elections is that the amount of money a party can spend during an election campaign is limited by law. Since the Tories have more money than they can spend during an election they're looking for something to do with it, and this is what they've decided. There's nothing 'gutter' about it. It's straightforward politics. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Keepitsimple Posted April 1, 2012 Report Posted April 1, 2012 And ... it worked... it kept the CON base mobilized.. and it drove off alot of mainstream voters .. and it continues to drive away voters. Who are these mainstream voters that were driven off by the attack ads? If these non-voters tended to vote Conservative, then Harper would have an even larger majority If they were Liberal, why weren't they outraged enough to vote AGAINST the Conservatives? If they were NDP, same question. So.....who were they? Quote Back to Basics
madmax Posted April 1, 2012 Report Posted April 1, 2012 Who are these mainstream voters that were driven off by the attack ads? If these non-voters tended to vote Conservative, then Harper would have an even larger majority If they were Liberal, why weren't they outraged enough to vote AGAINST the Conservatives? If they were NDP, same question. So.....who were they? Good question... Mainstream general public is NOT driven by politics or one political party or idealogy. Each year as tha % of voters drop we lose more of the Mainstream. Taken to extreme.. Some voting districts like Alberta are at 40% voter turnout.. Say in another 20 years this figure drops to 22%.. this would not represent mainstream but would represent a minority. As voter turnout drops and its heading towards falling below 50% the mainstream will become the majority whom don't vote... Thus if you goal is to drop voter turnout.. Negative ads are successful in achieving that goal. Quote
madmax Posted April 1, 2012 Report Posted April 1, 2012 Probably at your last Liberal Party convention. The reason there are political ads outside of elections is that the amount of money a party can spend during an election campaign is limited by law. Since the Tories have more money than they can spend during an election they're looking for something to do with it, and this is what they've decided. There's nothing 'gutter' about it. It's straightforward politics. Its legal Its gutter. Its time to Cap all spending inside and outside the election period. Use the same Cap that currently exists. Quote
Jack Weber Posted April 1, 2012 Report Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Probably at your last Liberal Party convention. The reason there are political ads outside of elections is that the amount of money a party can spend during an election campaign is limited by law. Since the Tories have more money than they can spend during an election they're looking for something to do with it, and this is what they've decided. There's nothing 'gutter' about it. It's straightforward politics. My last Liberal party convention?? I didn't know I was a member of the Liberal party or a supporter of that party??? Thanks for straightening that out for me... It's good to know someone who is clearly supremely intelligent,such as yourself,thinks gutter politics is OK...Therefore it must be OK 'cause you say so.... Edited April 1, 2012 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
cybercoma Posted April 1, 2012 Report Posted April 1, 2012 Its legal Its gutter. Its time to Cap all spending inside and outside the election period. Use the same Cap that currently exists. It's also missing an apostrophe. Quote
WLDB Posted April 2, 2012 Report Posted April 2, 2012 Amusing. Quote "History doesn't repeat itself-at best it sometimes rhymes"-Mark Twain
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