cybercoma Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 Can we enable these? It would be useful for posting charts, diagrams, and other visual information on the forums. I can understand not allowing attachment, due to bandwidth limitations. Does linking photos through the forum code actually take up bandwidth though? Quote
jbg Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) One of the few times we agree. Edited March 15, 2012 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
TheNewTeddy Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 I'd support this. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
waldo Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 Can we enable these? It would be useful for posting charts, diagrams, and other visual information on the forums. I can understand not allowing attachment, due to bandwidth limitations. Does linking photos through the forum code actually take up bandwidth though? bandwidth is a consideration... on the 'hot-linked' site, although MLW's limited size/requests would minimize overall impacts on any sites images were being linked from. Other possible concerns: (1) a hot-linked image could be changed at the source and (2) possible copyright violation. Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 Most of the images that I've tried to link to are from photobucket Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
TheNewTeddy Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 An example of what I'd be willing to share if IMG was enabled. http://s1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/TheNewTeddy/?action=view¤t=2011.png http://s1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/TheNewTeddy/?action=view¤t=euroright.png http://s1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/TheNewTeddy/?action=view¤t=jamaicaelect.png http://s1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/TheNewTeddy/?action=view¤t=york2.png I have many many more of these things in another account, but I fail to see why I should put effort into creating images that I can not properly link to. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
TimG Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) The bandwidth use by MLW server is only one consideration. Adding inline images could seriously affect the bandwidth used by readers and increase page load times (which are already slow for long threads). I would oppose turning this feature on unless it can be disabled by individual users. Edited March 15, 2012 by TimG Quote
waldo Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 The bandwidth use by MLW server is only one consideration. no - this isn't about storing images on the MLW server... this is strictly about 'hot-linking' images from other sites/locations. Quote
Guest Manny Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 A link is just as good, if a person is involved in the debate they will be motivated to click it. On the other hand, I don't always want to see the images. I want the right NOT to see them... Quote
jbg Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 A link is just as good, if a person is involved in the debate they will be motivated to click it. On the other hand, I don't always want to see the images. I want the right NOT to see them... Most sites give you the option not to view images or signatures. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
TheNewTeddy Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 I'd be willing to live without signature images. I also think the hotlinking thing is bunk. Other websites deal with this, is MLW so impotent that we can not? Even if you accept that, I'm certain there is a way you could enable IMG tags from working at only certain websites, like Photobucket or Imageshack. I'd be willing to live with the tags only working from a single website. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
scribblet Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 I generally go to my controls and turn off all avatars, signatures and graphics as I find they are unnecessary clutter and just get in the way. I would rather images not be allowed as it does slow down page loading, we can click on a link if we wish to. IMO when images are allowed, too many people don't bother resizing them, sometimes they are huge and annoying. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 The current policy is wise....many would regret the day that images are enabled. Some things should only be seen by a proctologist. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
TheNewTeddy Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 Images can be auto-resized And I've never seen "that" picture on any forum I've been on, unless you are arguing that this forum is so immature that someone WOULD post "that" picture? Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Guest American Woman Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 Images can be auto-resized And I've never seen "that" picture on any forum I've been on, unless you are arguing that this forum is so immature that someone WOULD post "that" picture? Are you arguing that you have so much respect for everyone on this forum, for everyone who might register, that you think there's no possibility that someone would post "'that' picture?" Because I agree with bush_cheney on this - and I actually do think someone would be that immature. At least we have the ability to disable sig lines and status updates. How difficult is it to click on a link to see a photo? Anyone who is interested can - and will - click on a link. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Posted March 15, 2012 ....And I've never seen "that" picture on any forum I've been on, unless you are arguing that this forum is so immature that someone WOULD post "that" picture? "That" picture is a common retort when forum discussions degrade into Internet poop throwing contests before moderators can intervene. Years ago, I was able to demonstrate a banned images crack on the now defunct CBC Forums...it was an image of Popeye the Sailor Man eating spinach. Members wanted to know how I did it, and I suspect that some of them had far more evil intentions! If it can happen at NPR.org, it can happen here too. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
cybercoma Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Posted March 16, 2012 I would oppose turning this feature on unless it can be disabled by individual users. The forum software typically allows users to disable images in posts. Quote
dre Posted March 17, 2012 Report Posted March 17, 2012 The bandwidth use by MLW server is only one consideration. Adding inline images could seriously affect the bandwidth used by readers and increase page load times (which are already slow for long threads). I would oppose turning this feature on unless it can be disabled by individual users. Bandwidth use on the MLW server is not an issue at ALL. That server only has to distribute the markup. Its not really an issue for page load times either because the markup will still render once your browser has it, regardless of any <img/> tags in the markup. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
cybercoma Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Posted March 17, 2012 And we're able to post videos with the [media] tag, so I don't see why the tag is much different. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Posted March 17, 2012 Bandwidth use on the MLW server is not an issue at ALL. That server only has to distribute the markup. Agreed....besides, everything is bigger in Texas! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Bonam Posted March 17, 2012 Report Posted March 17, 2012 Agreed. This feature should be enabled. There have been a number of times I've wanted to post a graph, table, diagram or photo as part of a discussion in some topic or another. I don't know what the sense is in being able to embed videos but not pictures. Technically you can post any image you want by embedding a video, anyway, since you can set the preview frame of the video to be the photo you want. Also it's easy enough to make a 1 frame video of the picture you want in Windows Movie Maker (or another such program) and upload it to a file sharing site, then link to it. But that's obviously way more hassle and most people don't bother. But the forum gets plenty of threads covered in embedded youtube videos, so I don't know why there'd be anything wrong with embedded images. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Posted March 17, 2012 ....But the forum gets plenty of threads covered in embedded youtube videos, so I don't know why there'd be anything wrong with embedded images. If you do some sniffing about in the IPS Community forum, images present a problem because the current IP.Board version does not have a "free" resizer and there is a separate IPS product called IP Gallery for users to stage board images before adding to posts (old school method to limit user folder sizes). This IPS Community thread touches on related (and unrelated) image challenges: http://community.invisionpower.com/topic/298034-image-handling-problems-solution/page__p__2234657__hl__image__fromsearch__1#entry2234657 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted March 17, 2012 Report Posted March 17, 2012 But the forum gets plenty of threads covered in embedded youtube videos, so I don't know why there'd be anything wrong with embedded images. copyright? It appears MLW admin has only installed (activated?) the plugin to support youtube for the IP.Board <media> tag... youtube is, of course, known for its 'aggressive' copyright enforcement policy. (I note there is default capability (presumably if 'activated') within the IP.Board to support other media services - like vimeo & google... with dozens of others available written as 'hacks' by the IPS community) Quote
cybercoma Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Posted March 17, 2012 copyright? It appears MLW admin has only installed (activated?) the plugin to support youtube for the IP.Board <media> tag... youtube is, of course, known for its 'aggressive' copyright enforcement policy. (I note there is default capability (presumably if 'activated') within the IP.Board to support other media services - like vimeo & google... with dozens of others available written as 'hacks' by the IPS community) Images posted on this forum would fall under the purview of Fair Use for criticism, research, or education. Quote
Guest Manny Posted March 17, 2012 Report Posted March 17, 2012 I have noticed a slowdown when I open threads with lots of YouTube media links on them, like the recent one by Jack Weber. On my laptop I keep a Task Manager running in the background at all times, and notice the CPU runs at 100% for a long time when I load those threads. Would have been better not to allow Media tags, IMO. The Albertans who run this board have got it right. Keep it text-only, old school. Not change, not progress. Quote
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