Guelph, Grimsby, leadnow.ca and Robocalls

[Shady]

Let's not forget George Soros and Adbusters......

Great point. And the whole drummed up Occupy movement. We've also recently seen their underhandedness with their fake Twitter account regarding Vikileaks. They'll pretty much stoop to anything to achieve their goals. False pretenses be damned.

[Guest Derek L]

Great point. And the whole drummed up Occupy movement. We've also recently seen their underhandedness with their fake Twitter account regarding Vikileaks. They'll pretty much stoop to anything to achieve their goals. False pretenses be damned.

Indeed.......Good Ole Communist subversion I tells yeah………..Who was that rouge Parliamentary Paige again? Didn’t she get a job from Michael Moore?

[waldo]

Oooohhhh.......This gem:

wow! Quite the gem... you claim to be a backroom boy... are you truly surprised there's been talk of merger, or to a lesser extent strategic candidacy? Hey now, isn't that actually one of NDP leader candidate Cullen's points?

but, hey now, in your world, just how do you think the 'unite the right' came about? Any chance you've ever seen Conservatives drop a high-flyer candidate into a targeted riding? Nah, none of that happens in the pristine world of the Harper Conservatives.

[Shakeyhands]

I see nothing on the fact that it was cons that started tweeting about the attacks on con members in guelph. It seems that they were tweeting 1st about phone calls to con supporters, why do we not hear more about that?

He who smelt it dealt it?

[Guest Derek L]

wow! Quite the gem... you claim to be a backroom boy... are you truly surprised there's been talk of merger, or to a lesser extent strategic candidacy? Hey now, isn't that actually one of NDP leader candidate Cullen's points?

but, hey now, in your world, just how do you think the 'unite the right' came about? Any chance you've ever seen Conservatives drop a high-flyer candidate into a targeted riding? Nah, none of that happens in the pristine world of the Harper Conservatives.

I’m not at all surprised about talk of mergers, I’ve even suggested it in other threads here, what surprises me is that the NDP is being influenced by outside actors and the suggestion of the subversion of other parties……..

[UofGPolitico]

I still think Leadnow is the main source of the 31,000 "contacts" EC received in the days after the break of the scandal. Their links to advocacy groups on the left in both Canada and the USA also go a long way in discrediting their motives here.

[Guest Derek L]

I still think Leadnow is the main source of the 31,000 "contacts" EC received in the days after the break of the scandal. Their links to advocacy groups on the left in both Canada and the USA also go a long way in discrediting their motives here.

I agree, but who’s pulling the puppet strings behind the (Iron/Bamboo) curtain will be the interesting point of discovery.

[olpfan1]

Tin foil hat time

Why it wouldn't surprise me if the Conservatives were behind this?

Campaign Research partner Nick Kouvalis publicly stated: “We're in the business of getting Conservatives elected and ending Liberal careers. We're good at it.”

The company many of the Conservatives used have openly stated their goal was ending liberal careers.. and "we're good at it" meaning they have no problems with doing unethical and potentially illegal things to win elections

Edited March 12, 2012 by olpfan1

[olpfan1]

I see nothing on the fact that it was cons that started tweeting about the attacks on con members in guelph. It seems that they were tweeting 1st about phone calls to con supporters, why do we not hear more about that?

actually, there was rules being broken as they did not identify who they were but that is not an illegal action worthy of fines or jail time according to elections Canada, there is no punishment for that, but it does look bad for Valiorette sp

The recordings were talking about Burkes stance on abortion..that is all..nothing more nothing less

Edited March 12, 2012 by olpfan1

[waldo]

Great point. And the whole drummed up Occupy movement. We've also recently seen their underhandedness with their fake Twitter account regarding Vikileaks. They'll pretty much stoop to anything to achieve their goals. False pretenses be damned.

amateurs!

Trouble in Toryland: their Dirty Tricks catalogue

To the misfortune of Team Harper, its record on duplicitous activities is hardly one to inspire confidence that its hand are clean.

There follows a list – is Harperland becoming Nixonland? — of dirty tricks, black ops and hardball tactics from the Conservatives’ years in power.

1. Cooking the Books

2. The Hidden Slush Fund

3. Falsifying Documents

4. Shutting Down Detainees’ Probes

5. The Cotler Misinformation Campaign

6. The Suppression of Damaging Reports

7. Attempt to Frame the Opposition Leader.

8. Communications Lockdown.

9. Intimidation and Bullying of Adversaries

10. The “Citizenship” Dog and Pony Show

11. Writing the Book on Disrupting Committees

12. Leaking Veterans’ Medical Files

13. Unfixing The Fixed-Date Election Law

14. Declaring Brian Mulroney Persona Non Grata

15. Unreleasing Released Documents

16. Ejecting Citizens From Rallies

17. Hit Squad On Journalists

18. Dirty Work on Dion

19. Tory Logos on Taxpayer Cheques

20. The Rob Anders Nomination Crackdown

21. The Rights and Democracy Takeover

22. Vote Suppression Tactics

[waldo]

I still think Leadnow is the main source of the 31,000 "contacts" EC received in the days after the break of the scandal. Their links to advocacy groups on the left in both Canada and the USA also go a long way in discrediting their motives here.

I agree with you... only a public inquiry will get to the bottom of the swamp.

[olpfan1]

This, coupled with Anonymous, the Occupy movement and radical environmentalists, reeks of a good old fashioned Communist insurrection aimed at shaking the foundations of our democracy and society in general.

Occupy movement was started by a Canadian magazine..they're hardly communists. Anonymous was made because of the governments of the world targeting the internet and trying to produce legislation to police it. Radical environmentalists? good god, you have sipped on the conservative kool aid LOL..there is nothing radical about wanting to preserve the environment from being polluted by big oil companies

These are just the sign of the times..there is no communism insurrection..but you may want to tell Del Mastro that line, he could use it over and over!

[Guest Derek L]

I agree with you... only a public inquiry will get to the bottom of the swamp.

And we agree? Surely a sign of the Apocalypse………Prior to the revelations of EC’s incompetence with unregistered voters in the Toronto riding, I’d been opposed, but this also clearly shows that something is indeed rotten in the Kingdom of Denmark……….Who get’s to play McCarthy?

[olpfan1]

Conservatives have short memories, they had no problem when Clement was seeking approval and advice from the Americans when it came to revising our copyright bill.. I guess it's only okay if an American entity is on their side and not the oppositions side eh?

Damn hypocrites

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1048993--leaks-show-u-s-swayed-canada-on-copyright-bill

Secret U.S. government cables show a stunning willingness by senior Canadian officials to appease American demands for a U.S.-style copyright law here.

The documents describe Canadian officials as encouraging American lobbying efforts. They also cite cabinet minister Maxime Bernier raising the possibility of showing U.S. officials a draft bill before tabling it in Parliament.

The cables, from the U.S. Embassy in Ottawa, even have a policy director for then industry minister Tony Clement suggesting it might help U.S. demands for a tough copyright law if Canada were placed among the worst offenders on an international piracy watch list. Days later, the U.S. placed Canada alongside China and Russia on the list

Edited March 12, 2012 by olpfan1

[Shady]

Occupy movement was started by a Canadian magazine..they're hardly communists.

Definitely. Why would anyone think that Adbusters is communist?

PIC

[olpfan1]

Definitely. Why would anyone think that Adbusters is communist?

PIC

I think we're old enough now to understand their is a difference between socialism and communism

[Guest Derek L]

I think we're old enough now to understand their is a difference between socialism and communism

Then what of the pictorial reference to Che?

[olpfan1]

Then what of the pictorial reference to Che?

Occupiers aren't the sharpest tools in the shed obviously since they have Che Guevara above the words Socialism

I doubt they'd even know he was Argentine or was a player in the Cuban Revolution

They probably think he is Mexican

Look, Occupiers are stupid, why do I know why they have a pictorial reference to Che on a banner that looks like a piss rag?

Edited March 12, 2012 by olpfan1

[Guest Derek L]

Occupiers aren't the sharpest tools in the shed obviously since they have Che Guevara above the words Socialism

I doubt they'd even know he was Argentine or was a player in the Cuban Revolution

They probably think he is Mexican

Look, Occupiers are stupid, why do I know why they have a pictorial reference to Che on a banner that looks like a piss rag?

Would you consider referring to them as "Useful Idiots" apt?

[Shady]

Occupiers aren't the sharpest tools in the shed obviously since they have Che Guevara above the words Socialism

I doubt they'd even know he was Argentine or was a player in the Cuban Revolution

They probably think he is Mexican

Look, Occupiers are stupid, why do I know why they have a pictorial reference to Che on a banner that looks like a piss rag?

Wow, that's some nice political spinning!

[olpfan1]

Would you consider referring to them as "Useful Idiots" apt?

Why would I consider them useful? revolutions only happen because of violence, by putting the fear into politicians that they could die..not by camping out in tents

[Guest Derek L]

Why would I consider them useful? revolutions only happen because of violence, by putting the fear into politicians that they could die..not by camping out in tents

Research the Idiom Useful Idiots ....You’re likely too young, my apologies

[olpfan1]

Research the Idiom Useful Idiots ....You’re likely too young, my apologies

Hate to tell ya buddy but the Cold War has been over for 21 years now..so I don't see how they could be "Soviet Sympathizers"

[Guest Derek L]

Hate to tell ya buddy but the Cold War has been over for 21 years now..so I don't see how they could be "Soviet Sympathizers"

You’re still missing it………..nevermind.

[Jack Weber]

I grew up in Grimsby...I now live 5 km's down the road in Beamsville...

What does this have to do with voter supression,or,is this another "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtains!" attempt at clouding the issue from the Del Mastro disciples?

Edited March 12, 2012 by Jack Weber