punked Posted March 10, 2012 Report Posted March 10, 2012 Keith Martin was a rightwinger? You have so many unfounded assumptions in that premise! Was Reform truly a rightwing party? Was Martin himself a rightwinger? The man was a doctor! I have never met a rightwing doctor in my life! I never believed Reform to be rightwing. They were populist and practical. In many ways they seemed to me to be a closer match in many ways to classic liberalism, which is why they appealed to me in the first place. This can not be a serious post. Quote
jacee Posted March 10, 2012 Report Posted March 10, 2012 Stephen Maher (the guy whos been doing the digging for the robocall story)was kicked out of the manning conference This seems to be a good place to juxtapose this irony ... Preston Manning: Robocalls 'deplorable' Then why ... John Fryer ... attended a campaign school training offered by the Conservative-aligned Manning Centre for Democracy The conversation that followed was deeply disturbing to Fryer. In a question and answer session, some attendees discussed voter suppression tactics. Attendees talked about posing as a member of another party, and about making rude calls at inconvenient times as a strategy to get the supporter of another party to not go out and vote for their candidate. ... According to Fryer, "the mood of the meeting was that this is war and that anything goes." Preston Manning might want to take another look at what's being percolated (perpetrated?) in his name. Quote
eyeball Posted March 10, 2012 Report Posted March 10, 2012 Keith Martin was a rightwinger? You have so many unfounded assumptions in that premise! Was Reform truly a rightwing party? Was Martin himself a rightwinger? The man was a doctor! I have never met a rightwing doctor in my life! Okay, but my premise about right-wingers and principles still stands. I never believed Reform to be rightwing. They were populist and practical. In many ways they seemed to me to be a closer match in many ways to classic liberalism, which is why they appealed to me in the first place. I think your nose must either be in denial or blind, deaf, and stupid. They represent the very worst kind of social - no make that, moral engineers. The Reform Party clearly rose to dominance on the back of the most socially conservative strongholds in Canada and did poorly wherever conservatism tended towards moderation. Maybe your broken nose just needs a good punch to straighten out it's senses. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
capricorn Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 This seems to be a good place to juxtapose this irony ... -- The conversation that followed was deeply disturbing to Fryer. In a question and answer session, some attendees discussed voter suppression tactics. Attendees talked about posing as a member of another party, and about making rude calls at inconvenient times as a strategy to get the supporter of another party to not go out and vote for their candidate. ... According to Fryer, "the mood of the meeting was that this is war and that anything goes." You are way behind in the news department Jacee. Fryer had to retract and apologize for the allegations he made in the media. Campaign Research on Thursday won an apology and retraction from Green party activist John Fryer, who had reported in a British Columbia publication that he had heard voter suppression tactics discussed at a Manning Centre campaign manager course in Victoria in 2010. http://www.canada.com/business/Firms+linked+robocalls+taking+aggressive+stance+against+press/6273478/story.html You can read his letter of apology here. It looks like Mr. Fryer got carried away with the robocall hype. Preston Manning might want to take another look at what's being percolated (perpetrated?) in his name. I have a feeling Manning is very much aware of what's going on at the Manning Centre. Interesting to note that the writer of that Vancouver Observer article is Emma Pullman of Leadnow.ca fame. Emma is a Vancouver-based researcher, writer and campaigner focused on climate change and sustainability issues. She is the Director of Research of Leadnow.ca Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
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