UofGPolitico Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) Yeah, they dropped the ball there... a lot of incompetence coming from EC..which makes me not confident that they are the ones leading the investigation I forgot another one.. harassing voters by pretending to be representing their party and calling them in inappropriate times and being rude to them And also, forgive me if I don't take out much sympathy on Volpe. Probably one of the shiftiest politicians this country has had in the last 25 years. Joe Oliver has a shifty way about him too. I guess the voters of Eglington-Lawrence like to keep things interesting Edited March 11, 2012 by UofGPolitico Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) And also, forgive me if I don't take out much sympathy on Volpe. Probably one of the shiftiest politicians this country has had in the last 25 years. Joe Oliver has a shifty way about him too. I guess the voters of Eglington-Lawrence like to keep things interesting shiftier than clement & toews & fantino & del mastro? i highly doubt it Edited March 11, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) shiftier than clement & toews & fantino & del mastro? i highly doubt it Just check out his wikipedia page. All allegations, some of which proved true, are sourced. He is the last one to be preaching on "unfairness" Edited March 11, 2012 by UofGPolitico Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 Just check out his wikipedia page. All allegations are sourced too. You know Clement and the whole G8/G20 misappropriation of 50 million dollar pork barrel before election to fulfill a promise of beautifying up the riding to get elected right.. and you know Toews who cheated on his wife multiple times within 2 decades, got one of them pregnant all while spouting off about his traditional family values, right? then getting it put on twitter and going on a witch hunt to crucify whoever was responsible, right? How could anyone be worse than those two? I simply do not believe you Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 Well lets see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Volpe#Apotex_donations As for the Apotex donations " On December 5, 2006, Elections Canada stated that Volpe had not violated election financing law in accepting the contributions." Then he was fined 20,000 for incompetence in registering new members as well as registering people who don't recall ever registering..shady yes Only one of these "scandals" had been proven to be against the rules I don't see how he's worse than Toews or Clement...dirty, yes, but not dirtier than those two Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 All I said was one of lol. You brought Clement and Toews in. In response to the Toews example, that is in his personal, not political life. Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) All I said was one of lol. You brought Clement and Toews in. In response to the Toews example, that is in his personal, not political life. he was fined for election fraud by EC, a politicians personal life says all you need to know as to what kind of politician they're going to be if he had no problem lying to his wife for 2 decades on and off, eating all kinds of food on the tax payers dime and never spending his own money... he's probably a pretty shitty politician ..you may disagree, it depends what your morals are Edited March 11, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) he was fined for election fraud by EC, a politicians personal life says all you need to know as to what kind of politician they're going to be if he had no problem lying to his wife for 2 decades on and off, eating all kinds of food on the tax payers dime and never spending his own money... he's probably a pretty shitty politician ..you may disagree, it depends what your morals are Toews is a shitty politician, yes. Me saying Volpe is too in no way is me saying he was worse than Toews. LOL. Edited March 11, 2012 by UofGPolitico Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 Toews is a shitty politician, yes. Me saying Volpe is too in no way saying he was worse than Toews. LOL. you said he was one of the shiftiest politicians in 25 years and to check out his wikipedia where there are sourced allegations and out of the 3... one was ruled legal by EC, the other was nothing, and the last was he was fined 20,000 by his own party..unless I am missing something there are dozens of dirtier politicians in the last 25 years than that..come on man Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 omg OTTAWA — The news that Elections Canada investigators are aware of the IP address that “Pierre Poutine” used to set up the Guelph, Ont., robocall account has convinced a suspect to step forward and accept responsibility for the deceptive calls, sources say. http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/11/pierre-poutine-robocalls-3 Quote
madmax Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 I don't care what you do, you are too extreme likening harper to real dictators why dont you have some civility for people whove lived under actual dictators I have no posts comparing Harper to a Dictator.. Quote
UofGPolitico Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 omg OTTAWA — The news that Elections Canada investigators are aware of the IP address that “Pierre Poutine” used to set up the Guelph, Ont., robocall account has convinced a suspect to step forward and accept responsibility for the deceptive calls, sources say. http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/11/pierre-poutine-robocalls-3 How noble of them. This is good. The sooner they know who did them in Guelph, the sooner they can focus on determining the legitimacy of other reports in other ridings and the various connections between all of them. Quote
capricorn Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Looks to me we can count out Andrew Prescott. In reply to a request for a comment by the media he tweeted: "“Getting media requests for a story from people who just days ago suggested it implied wrongdoing on my part. An apology first maybe?”. I expect the name will be leaked to the media tomorrow. Edited March 12, 2012 by capricorn Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Guest Derek L Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 Looks to me we can count out Andrew Prescott. In reply to a request for a comment by the media he tweeted: "“Getting media requests for a story from people who just days ago suggested it implied wrongdoing on my part. An apology first maybe?”. I expect the name will be leaked to the media tomorrow. Well that was certainly anticlimactic…..not to fear, they’ll have the (small-c) conservative budget to bemoan in a few weeks Quote
margrace Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 Johny did it, Johnny did it. For a gov't who touted how honest they are surly using this excuse is pretty childish. By the way we never did find out how much the big resort in Huntsville got, that was apparently blacked out. Funny that the American company bought it for somewhere around $30 thousand and spent $60 thousand upgrading it and after the G8 sold it for just a little more than they originally paid for it. How much did we give them? Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Looks to me we can count out Andrew Prescott. In reply to a request for a comment by the media he tweeted: "“Getting media requests for a story from people who just days ago suggested it implied wrongdoing on my part. An apology first maybe?”. Oh please that doesn't mean anything, that guy kept money off the campaign sheets and counted himself as the contractor and did it that way is in itself way suspicious.. the other campaigns as far as I know went directly through racknine and the other firms that were used..they didn't go through an independent contractor I fully expect Andrew Prescott being the person to come forward I believe his lawyer advised him too but of course, I could very well be wrong Pierre Poutine entertained me for the past month, I will miss him Edited March 12, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
huh Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 Johny did it, Johnny did it. For a gov't who touted how honest they are surly using this excuse is pretty childish. By the way we never did find out how much the big resort in Huntsville got, that was apparently blacked out. Funny that the American company bought it for somewhere around $30 thousand and spent $60 thousand upgrading it and after the G8 sold it for just a little more than they originally paid for it. How much did we give them? Checking for relevance to topic at hand...none found. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 I was thinking about this situation this morning, if the Liberals are found to be involved in voter suppression, as the CPC are being accused of, this would be the final nail in the coffin for them in MHO. I could never bring myself to vote for them again. Do the Conservative posters here feel that way if on the off chance it's the CPC that are found to be complicit? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
olpfan1 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 I was thinking about this situation this morning, if the Liberals are found to be involved in voter suppression, as the CPC are being accused of, this would be the final nail in the coffin for them in MHO. I could never bring myself to vote for them again. Do the Conservative posters here feel that way if on the off chance it's the CPC that are found to be complicit? why would a liberal suppress their own voters? Quote
eyeball Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 why would a liberal suppress their own voters? For the same reason a false flag operation is carried out. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Jerry J. Fortin Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 For the same reason a false flag operation is carried out. You think they are that astute? I am not so sure they are that smart. Quote
Wild Bill Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 I was thinking about this situation this morning, if the Liberals are found to be involved in voter suppression, as the CPC are being accused of, this would be the final nail in the coffin for them in MHO. I could never bring myself to vote for them again. Do the Conservative posters here feel that way if on the off chance it's the CPC that are found to be complicit? Well Shakey, as I keep saying, I'm not a conservative despite the fact that I vote for them. Nothing has changed as far as I'm concerned. For a start, I read how those 30,000 electoral complaints actually had zilch of substance, consisting of people complaining about everything from rudeness at the polling station to bad weather. I'm saddened but not surprised that nobody seems to care about that. The Tory-haters simply ignore the content of the complaints and keep hollering that "There are 30,000 complaints!". Still, even though it all seems just like partisan screeching to me it wouldn't matter if there was a germ of truth underneath it all, at least as far as my vote. As a classic liberal, I believe in minimum government, the rights of the individual being paramount, no nanny state, personal privacy, absolute right to property and so on. I realize that these values today are considered by many if not most to be dated and passe but none the less, they are still my values and I will never give them up. So that being said Shakey, outside of wasting my vote with the Libertarians what other choice than Tory do I have? Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
eyeball Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 You think they are that astute? I am not so sure they are that smart. I wouldn't put it past them to try and if they did I wouldn't be surprised if they cocked it up. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 So that being said Shakey, outside of wasting my vote with the Libertarians what other choice than Tory do I have? Don't vote. Every vote you cast is no better than a stamp of approval for a deeply flawed very outdated electoral system. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
madmax Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 Don't vote. Every vote you cast is no better than a stamp of approval for a deeply flawed very outdated electoral system. Not as serious a flaw as your proposal to "not Vote" NOT VOTING is deeply flawed. Now back on topic.. Will Pierre Poutine show his face today. Quote
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