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[UofGPolitico]

Yeah. Leadnow is not emailing the commissioner. The website encourages people with information to contact the commssion, while the letter-writing campaign goes out to the party leaders (Harper, Rae, Turmel, May, and Plamondon).

The Commissioners of both the RCMP and Elections Canada are addressed in the letter though and listed under the "Send To"?

[cybercoma]

The Commissioners of both the RCMP and Elections Canada are addressed in the letter though and listed under the "Send To"?

Sorry, the new letter does list those individuals. You're right. The original letter a couple days ago did not.

[huh]

This is the text of the Leadnow.ca letter campaign:

The "robocalls" were designed to stop non-Conservative voters from casting ballots in key ridings by falsely telling voters that the location of their polling stations had changed, causing them to go to the wrong location on election day.

Another unproven allegation, if this is proven we can discuss the rest.

[Vendetta]

The hysteria of the left continues

I wonder if Tory researchers already have this ready for QP on Monday

You joined and seemed kind of neutral at first , I was listening to your opinion, thanks for identifying yourself as a tory partisan so i can ignore you.

[Bryan]

Let the retractions begin:

National Post · Mar. 3, 2012 3:11 AM ET

Retraction and apology

An article published in the National Post on March 2, 2012, referred to Responsive Marketing Group Inc. and stated that former employees of RMG have alleged that they were asked by RMG to direct voters to the wrong polling stations. That report was incorrect. No allegation has been made that RMG asked its employees to direct voters to the wrong polling stations. The National Post apologizes to Responsive Marketing Group Inc. for the error.

http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/Retraction+apology/6244843/story.html

[Topaz]

Each day it seems more info. is coming out about the May election and now we have more...why did the Tories felt they had to use a US Republican firm to dish out the sleeze? Perhaps they could get one in Canada? It seems the Tories are more pro-american than Iggy was. http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1140344--conservative-mps-used-top-republican-firm-during-may-election?bn=1

[waldo]

Let the retractions begin:

let the retractions start here... "We've done some checking"

"We've done some checking," Harper said. "We've only found that, in fact, it was the Liberal party that did source its phone calls from the United States.

"I wonder if the reason the honourable leader of the Liberal party will not in fact show us his evidence is it will point in fact that it was the Liberal party that made these calls."

[olpfan1]

wouldnt shock me if some libs used american firms but cpc has to do some digging and prove it

[j44]

It wouldn't surprise me if an investigation/inquiry shows at least 2 or maybe 3 parties tried to supress opposition voters.

[waldo]

wouldnt shock me if some libs used american firms but cpc has to do some digging and prove it

just make sure your 'shock' is relative to whether or not those (your) presumptive Liberal calls were targeting Liberal voters with harassment and disinformation, hey?

[Shakeyhands]

just make sure your 'shock' is relative to whether or not those (your) presumptive Liberal calls were targeting Liberal voters with harassment and disinformation, hey?

What are the chances of that? How would that advantage the Liberals in any real way?

[waldo]

What are the chances of that? How would that advantage the Liberals in any real way?

of course, as you well know, this was/is just another misdirection, change-the-channel ruse. It's akin to the sheer idiocy Harper trotted out in QP - "we've done some checking". Of course, even if the Harper Conservatives hadn't flubbed the distinction between the 2 separate and unrelated companies, their false premise posited that U.S. originated calls of a harassing nature, of a misinforming nature, were being placed by "Liberals targeting Liberal voters". Sheer lunacy! That Harper Conservative misstep was specific... falsely specific. The extension to that false specificity is to simply, broadly and most generalized, suggest that Liberals "may" have used U.S. based companies... to, uhhh... harass and misinform it's voting base!

[olpfan1]

just make sure your 'shock' is relative to whether or not those (your) presumptive Liberal calls were targeting Liberal voters with harassment and disinformation, hey?

Harper was an idiot for suggesting that

[olpfan1]

Why did the conservatives make it even a bad thing to use american call centres? i see nothing wrong with it

what is wrong is using US call centres and masking the number to make it look like the call came from their local campaign headquarters

Edited March 3, 2012 by olpfan1

[scribblet]

Why did the conservatives make it even a bad thing to use american call centres? i see nothing wrong with it

what is wrong is using US call centres and masking the number to make it look like the call came from their local campaign headquarters

Cos you know how it goes - America bad ergo anyone using anything American is - bad and evil, they where just trying to throw that concept back at those who generally subscribe to that theory.

But really, why on earth would someone up to nefarious tricks actually make the call look as if it came from the Conservatives - that doesn't make sense if it's a conservative doing it.

Edited March 3, 2012 by scribblet

[olpfan1]

Cos you know how it goes - America bad ergo anyone using anything American is - bad and evil, they where just trying to throw that concept back at those who generally subscribe to that theory.

But really, why on earth would someone up to nefarious tricks actually make the call look as if it came from the Conservatives - that doesn't make sense if it's a conservative doing it.

Why would Dean Del Mastro claim the liberals were the ones who used American call centres when HIS campaign used one from Ohio

and masked calls to make it look like it came from his local headquarters?

Did he actually know where his calls were coming from? If not its possible these mps don't actually know

and the campaign workers are the guilty ones

[capricorn]

Why would Dean Del Mastro claim the liberals were the ones who used American call centres when HIS campaign used one from Ohio

Cause the fools on the Hill are caught up in a fiery finger pointing game.

[j44]

Why would Dean Del Mastro claim the liberals were the ones who used American call centres when HIS campaign used one from Ohio

and masked calls to make it look like it came from his local headquarters?

Did he actually know where his calls were coming from? If not its possible these mps don't actually know

and the campaign workers are the guilty ones

If it is proven that the Conservatives were actually up to these dirty tricks it will not surprise me if some-and maybe even most-MPs knew nothing about them. They could just be honestly ignorant of what their staff are doing. Their staff could have kept them out of the loop to protect them or because the staff thought that the MP might shoot down the suggestion to use said tricks.

[madmax]

It really looks bad for the Conservatives...

They look and sound incompetent... at best.. guilty at worst..

Each time the Conservatives open their mouth, they find out how to put another shoe in it.

[capricorn]

National Post apologizes to RMG.

An article published in the National Post on March 2, 2012, referred to Responsive Marketing Group Inc. and stated that former employees of RMG have alleged that they were asked by RMG to direct voters to the wrong polling stations. That report was incorrect. No allegation has been made that RMG asked its employees to direct voters to the wrong polling stations. The National Post apologizes to Responsive Marketing Group Inc. for the error.

http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/Retraction+apology/6244843/story.html

I wonder if other news outlets subsequently repeated the claims made by the NP.

[waldo]

I wonder if other news outlets subsequently repeated the claims made by the NP.

Let the retractions begin:

let the retractions start

here

... "We've done some checking"

"We've done some checking," Harper said. "We've only found that, in fact, it was the Liberal party that did source its phone calls from the United States.

"I wonder if the reason the honourable leader of the Liberal party will not in fact show us his evidence is it will point in fact that it was the Liberal party that made these calls."

[waldo]

It really looks bad for the Conservatives...

They look and sound incompetent... at best.. guilty at worst..

Each time the Conservatives open their mouth, they find out how to put another shoe in it.

just let em keep Dean Del Mastro running point!

Conservative MPs used U.S.-based telemarketers - Calls masked to hide Ohio origins

CBC News has learned that more than a dozen Conservative MPs employed U.S.-based political telemarketing firms during the last federal election campaign, contrary to Stephen Harper’s statement in Parliament this week.

The prime minister and his parliamentary secretary, Peterborough MP Dean Del Mastro, claimed in the Commons that the Liberals were the only party that used American calling firms.

But documents show 14 Conservative campaigns enlisted the telephone services of an Ohio company called Front Porch Strategies.

A source connected to Front Porch tells CBC News that all the calls from Ohio to Del Mastro’s riding during the election were programmed to show the telephone number of his local campaign headquarters, masking the fact the phoning was being done from Ohio.

Front Porch’s calls to 13 other ridings on behalf of Conservative candidates operated in the same way, the source said.

[olpfan1]

They are still saying today that liberals used american call centres .. even though they are the ones

who used american call centres

[scribblet]

That statement sums up this entire frenzy of lunacy that the political Opposition and the media cannot realize.

Why would a Conservative supporter plan out a scheme where they would obtain a disposable cell phone from a city in Quebec. Connect the cell phone to a fictitious person. Use an Alberta call center to call into an Ontario riding. Everything done along the way to hide their tracks, then leave one blatant piece of evident pointing right back to themselves. This is sheer lunacy by the political Opposition and the media.

Exactly, it makes no sense

[olpfan1]

Nonetheless, Harper’s Conservatives continued their counter-offensive Saturday, with an official from party headquarters issuing a statement that said: “The Liberal party is the party that sourced its phone calls from the U.S. during the last election.”

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/touch/business/story.html?id=6246765

... why are they sticking with the lie?

Edited March 3, 2012 by olpfan1