France, Turkey row escalating

[cybercoma]

I was admiring Arab progress.

Iranians are mostly Persian. They speak Farsi, not Arabic.

[jbg]

Iranians are mostly Persian. They speak Farsi, not Arabic.

I'm admiring the constructive direction, also, that Iran is taking towards its minorities, and in supporting Hamas and Hezbollah.

[Bob]

Actually only 13 jews in Iran have been executed since the revolution compared to hundreds of muslims and arabs.

I thought you were being sarcastic when you told jbg that the Jewish experience in today's Islamic Republic of Iran was good, but once again giving you the benefit of the doubt proves to be an exercise in futility as you parrot more anti-Semitic talking points and do pro-bono propaganidization on MLW. Without going into the details of the oppression Jews deal with in today's Iran, which is of a slightly different flavour than the oppression the rest of Iranians have to deal with if the Jews have family abroad, consider the fact that the former Soviet Union also had laws guaranteeing equality for all people. I mean, those lucky Jews even had sovereignty and independence in the Oblast! I guess the Jewish experience in the former Soviet Union was just fine and dandy, as well.

Dre is, quite literally, MLW's own resident counterpart of Samantha Smith's parents or Seoul City Sue, parroting the narrative of the enemy. So, so vile.

Edited December 25, 2011 by Bob

[Bob]

You can bullshit all you want, but the reality is Irans jews are treated pretty well.

No, they're not. Although this oppression isn't exclusively experienced by the Jewish segment of Iran, of course. Ordinary Iranians as well as other minorities (i.e. Bahais) have to endure the oppression that comes with living in a heavily controlled and religious state. Perhaps you should consider actually moving out of whatever bubble you live in and actually speak with Iranian/Persian ex-patriates - which you obviously have never done. As far as the Jewish experience in contemporary Iran, go speak with Persian Jews who were expelled, coerced, or otherwise intimidated into fleeing Iran in the years folliwing Israel's reestablishment or after the 1979 "Islamic Revolution", which amounted to over a hundred thousand. Most of them now live in LA, NYC, Miami, and Israel. Ask them what it's like to try and maintain communication with friends and/or family that remained in Iran, and what day-to-day life is like there.

When you consider all the lame brained retards that think Iran is bent on exterminating the jewish race, you gotta wonder why they dont start at home, and why they have laws that specifical protect the jewish religion.

Yeah, the Soviet Union had similar guarantees of freedom and protection for minorities, including the Jewish people. Is that also considered evidence of Jews living the good life in the Soviet Union? My grandfather must've imagined the pogroms he told me about. I guess we all imagined Ahmedinejad talking about wiping Israel off of the map ("he was speaking metaphorically!"), hosting Holocaust denial propaganda fests ("it was a sincere historical review!"), and embracing anti-Zionistic fringe religious Jewish groups ("they're the *real* Jews!"). I guess we must've imagined finding Iranian Revolutonary Guard bodies in southern Lebanon among Hezbollah terrorists during the summer 2006 Israel/Hezbollah war, as well as Iranian weapons and equipment. I guess we must've imagined hearing Farsi on radio and mobile phone frequencies/spectrum during the same conflict providing logistics and intelligence to Hezbollah and other terrorists. I guess we must've imagined intercepting weapons shipments originating from Iran trying to be smuggled into Gaza. I guess Iran hasn't been funding terrorism since its "Islamic revolution" against Israeli/Jewish and American/Western interests, most notably the two bombings in Buenous Aires in the nineties. I guess the 150-200 hundred thousand Jews that fled Iran during its two major exoduses was also a figment of history's imagination. Yeah, that must be it... Alice in Wonderland, or something like that....

Still parroting the propaganda narrative of the enemy, dre is, as the disciplined anti-Semitic worker bee he has commmitted himself to being on MLW. Dre's ideological ancestors would've been in the metaphorical online discussion forum (in the streets) in 1943 displaying the "evidence" that Jews were in fact being treated well in Tereizenstadt with this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7220829978743875704&q=The+Fuhrer+gives+the+jews+a+city&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1#

See? Things are fine for the Jews! Stay vile, dre, stay vile.

Edited December 25, 2011 by Bob

[GostHacked]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7220829978743875704&q=The+Fuhrer+gives+the+jews+a+city&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1#

See? Things are fine for the Jews! Stay vile, dre, stay vile.

Care to translate that German film for us please? I will assume you know German, because you obviously posted a video in German to try and prove your point.

[Bob]

Care to translate that German film for us please? I will assume you know German, because you obviously posted a video in German to try and prove your point.

It's an infamous propaganda film that utilized "useful idiots", in this case the Red Cross, to demonstrate to the world that all the information about anti-Semitic practises implemented by The Nazis in Germany and Nazi-occupied territories were untrue. In other words, look how happy these Jews are working in Theresienstadt. Prior to the arrival of the useful idiots, the Nazis selected (via the Judenrat) persons who would be displayed in the propaganda video based on outward appearance of good health: typically those who were the newest arrivals who hadn't yet become as emaciated as their more tenured fellow prisoners. They were then made more presentable by being fed more adequately in the days and weeks leading up the arrival of the useful idiots. Most chillingly, they were coerced into compliance with promises of consequences (typically torture and execution) for themselves and their family should they refuse to cooperate with the filmmakers. It is understandable that you are not aware of this film, and the truth is I don't expect non-Jews to know such details of the Holocaust (least of all someone like yourself, in all honesty), but what dre is doing is parroting the propaganda lines from the Iranian government and other Islamist-supports and apologists. Essentially, he's doing the what the Red Cross did in this instance, volunteering to perpetuate propaganda to advance his false historical and political narrative. Here, he's echoing the "Jews have it pretty good" line from the Islamists and pointing to the "special Jewish representation" that the Jews in Iran "enjoy". This is exactly what Nazi supporters and sympathizers did with this video, where the Red Cross knowingly cooperated in the production of this propaganda. It's really vile, but the depths to which dre will stoop on MLW are something to behold. Luckily, I'm here to shine the light of disinfectant on this disease.

[bud]

Essentially, he's doing the what the Red Cross did in this instance, volunteering to perpetuate propaganda to advance his false historical and political narrative. Here, he's echoing the "Jews have it pretty good" line from the Islamists and pointing to the "special Jewish representation" that the Jews in Iran "enjoy". This is exactly what Nazi supporters and sympathizers did with this video, where the Red Cross knowingly cooperated in the production of this propaganda. It's really vile, but the depths to which dre will stoop on MLW are something to behold. Luckily, I'm here to shine the light of disinfectant on this disease.

so you're saying that the iranian government has put iranian jews in concentration camps and they're treating the jews of iran like the nazis did. we just don't know about it because it's all propaganda.

[jbg]

so you're saying that the iranian government has put iranian jews in concentration camps and they're treating the jews of iran like the nazis did. we just don't know about it because it's all propaganda.

That's obviously not what Bob said.

[Bob]

That's obviously not what Bob said.

Reading comprehension isn't one of bud's strong points, apparently. You'd think he'd be better at it by now considering all the time he's spent around here.

[GostHacked]

Luckily, I'm here to shine the light of disinfectant on this disease.

That sounds like something Hitler would say.

[bud]

you are trying to equate the iranian's treatment of its jews to the nazi's treatment of its jews by comparing* them, while insulting dre. you're a dishonest and ugly person.

Edited December 27, 2011 by bud

[jbg]

Reading comprehension isn't one of bud's strong points, apparently. You'd think he'd be better at it by now considering all the time he's spent around here.

Especially if you include his "predecessors" dub, naomiglover and a whole cavalcade of loathsome posters.

[Bob]

you are trying to equate the iranian's treatment of its jews to the nazi's treatment of its jews by comparison them, while insulting dre. you're a dishonest and ugly person.

I certainly never equated the circumstances of Jews in today's Islamic Republic of Iran with those endured by the Jewish people under Nazi persecution. Your reading comprehension is not even on-par that of a high-school graduate. As usual, when you try to engage someone like myself in "debate", you reveal that you're completely out of your league.

[bud]

I certainly never equated the circumstances of Jews in today's Islamic Republic of Iran with those endured by the Jewish people under Nazi persecution.

by mentioning the propaganda of the nazis in its treatment of jews during a discusion of iran's treatment of its jews, you are comparing them. you also tried to discredit dre by comparing his comments to that of the red cross during the nazi era. you and the rest of the zionists have gone beyond embarrassing with your milking of the holocaust.

Your reading comprehension is not even on-par that of a high-school graduate. As usual, when you try to engage someone like myself in "debate", you reveal that you're completely out of your league.

settle down with the self promotion donald trump.

Edited December 27, 2011 by bud

[Bob]

by mentioning the propaganda of the nazis in its treatment of jews during a discusion of iran's treatment of its jews, you are comparing them. you also tried to discredit dre by comparing his comments to that of the red cross during the nazi era. you and the rest of the zionists have gone beyond embarrassing with your milking of the holocaust.

So my posting of a Nazi propaganda video that was produced in order to hide the truth about Therezienstadt in order to provide a historical example of people like dre (in this instance the IRCC's choice to become useful idiots participating in the Nazi propaganda machine) who willingly parroted the false narrative of our enemies just as he has been doing on MLW has become - me "comparing" contemporary conditions for Jews in Iran with the horrors Jews endured during the Holocaust? Not sure how you connected those dots, but as usual, you're digging in your heels and committing yourself to ongoing self-inflicted humiliation. You're continually reinforcing what many of us on MLW already know about you - that you cannot even read and comprehend standard English. You're simply unqualified to participate in an adult discussion. How embarrassing for you. Although perhaps ignorance is bliss and you really do believe that I compared the situation facing Jews in today's Islamic Republic of Iran with the atrocities committed against us in the Holocaust... which of course, I never did.

settle down with the self promotion donald trump.

As I've already said, you're way out of your league when you engage me. You and I both know this, we might as well be honest about it. There's no self-aggrandizement here coming from me, as you're really nothing impressive to behold. I only indulge you and others like you with responses when I'm feeling particularly masochistic, as I enjoy shredding through not only your ignorance, but your non-existent reading comprehension. Keep replying to things that we never said, nor even implied in the slightest when the record is clear - my posts remain on MLW for all to see. Keep digging that hole, it's kinda fun to watch.

[bud]

So my posting of a Nazi propaganda video that was produced in order to hide the truth about Therezienstadt in order to provide a historical example of people like dre (in this instance the IRCC's choice to become useful idiots participating in the Nazi propaganda machine) who willingly parroted the false narrative of our enemies just as he has been doing on MLW has become - me "comparing" contemporary conditions for Jews in Iran with the horrors Jews endured during the Holocaust?

this is you:

Still parroting the propaganda narrative of the enemy, dre is, as the disciplined anti-Semitic worker bee he has commmitted himself to being on MLW. Dre's ideological ancestors would've been in the metaphorical online discussion forum (in the streets) in 1943 displaying the "evidence" that Jews were in fact being treated well in Tereizenstadt with this video:

* Video about jews in a holocaust concentration camp *

See? Things are fine for the Jews! Stay vile, dre, stay vile.

this is me:

by mentioning the propaganda of the nazis in its treatment of jews during a discusion of iran's treatment of its jews, you are comparing them. you also tried to discredit dre by comparing his comments to that of the red cross during the nazi era. you and the rest of the zionists have gone beyond embarrassing with your milking of the holocaust.

keep milking the holocaust zionist bot.

As I've already said, you're way out of your league when you engage me. You and I both know this, we might as well be honest about it. There's no self-aggrandizement here coming from me, as you're really nothing impressive to behold. I only indulge you and others like you with responses when I'm feeling particularly masochistic, as I enjoy shredding through not only your ignorance, but your non-existent reading comprehension. Keep replying to things that we never said, nor even implied in the slightest when the record is clear - my posts remain on MLW for all to see. Keep digging that hole, it's kinda fun to watch.

it's over donald. the hot air you pump into your big head will not be taken seriously.

[WWWTT]

As usual, when you try to engage someone like myself in "debate", you reveal that you're completely out of your league.

This comment you made is evidence that you feel you are superior or that another person is in some way inferior.You should be banned permanently for making it!

Nobody on this forum is superior!

We are all equal!

WWWTT

[Michael Hardner]

Yes, we are all equal. Posting about your debating abilities is beside the point. That also goes for criticizing others'.

Just make your points and let others draw their conclusions.

[NWRS]

Yes, we are all equal. Posting about your debating abilities is beside the point. That also goes for criticizing others'.

Just make your points and let others draw their conclusions.

We are all equal, lol, no we aren't. In so far as this forum might be concerned through our anonymity i suppose, but in reality, no, it is silly to even think it.

[Azhar]

I think french government hate muslims in general there are laws against muslim women rights and muslim counteris as well

[jbg]

I think french government hate muslims in general there are laws against muslim women rights and muslim counteris as well

What laws are there against Muslim woman's rights? The law against the ability of their husbands to force them to where burkhas?

[jefferiah]

"If they don't like their laws and values they can leave."

Remember that?

I mean, I don't agree. I think the laws are terrible, but there's a good number of people that argue from that POV here.

Right, because Canada and the US practice dhimmitude with immigrants.

Edited January 23, 2012 by jefferiah

[Guest Fotoglyuck]

The people from France are often quick to point out racism in the USA when racism is very strong in France. A lot of non-whites have lived in France for years and I doubt that one black person or Arab has made it to secretary of Health for example. At least, in the USA quite a few minorities have reached the upper part of the political ladder. They need to change their discriminatory ways.

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[jbg]

The people from France are often quick to point out racism in the USA when racism is very strong in France. A lot of non-whites have lived in France for years and I doubt that one black person or Arab has made it to secretary of Health for example. At least, in the USA quite a few minorities have reached the upper part of the political ladder. They need to change their discriminatory ways.

I agree with you heartedly. And in Canada how many have become PM? I know many have been in the Cabinet though, both provincial and Federal.

[cybercoma]

I agree with you heartedly. And in Canada how many have become PM? I know many have been in the Cabinet though, both provincial and Federal.

Canada has had a female prime minister and several female governor generals. How many times has the head of state been female? How many female govenrors have there been?