Canadian Youth Delegate Ejected from COP17

[Guest Peeves]

Same deal with protesting Israel when so many nearby countries are much worse regarding human-rights.

It's slacktavism.

Israel is a convenient red herring to divert attention from atrocities committed else where. Jews have been 'used historically to that end.

Meanwhile the murders of Muslims by Muslims goes on world wide and murders by terrorist Islamists goes on world wide. The Israelis use surgical responses to attack and it's headlines. Syria murders it's palestinian residents to no condemnation by the world. As for me, I tend to give Israel a great deal of respect for the degree of restraint they show when they have the ability to blow their attackers to kingdom come if they ignored collateral damage.

Edited December 7, 2011 by Peeves

[Guest Peeves]

I saw interviews of her, post throne speech stunt. I seriously doubt she's some political savant.

I agree, she sounded like a wound up chatty cathy doll. She certainly lost any point she had with her jejune wanderings.

[wyly]

Israels neighbours are a convenient red herring to divert attention from atrocities ethnic cleansing committed by israel. Jews muslims have been 'used historically to that end.

fixed it for ya...

[cybercoma]

She hates Cnada? Or disagrees with Canada's government policies....? There is a difference, right?

Step 1: Rename Government of Canada to Harper Government

Step 2: Call political dissent "hating Canada"

Step 3: Any criticism of Harper becomes criticism of Canada

[cybercoma]

Going all of the way to Durban to protest is a pretty big troll lol

I hope taxpayers are not paying for it

Why does it matter if tax payers paid for it? There's probably a large portion of taxpayers that agree with their political dissent. They also did a lot more politically by turning their backs on Kent than they would have sitting their taking notes and saying nothing.

[WWWTT]

these posters put her on a pedestal.. shes no smarter than your average Belieber

Actually what she did took a lot of guts and she is a brave person!

What have you done?

WWWTT

[wyly]

Step 1: Rename Government of Canada to Harper Government

Step 2: Call political dissent "hating Canada"

Step 3: Any criticism of Harper becomes criticism of Canada

ya you know it goes...if your against my party you're a traitor, if you're for my party you're a patriot...

[wyly]

Actually what she did took a lot of guts and she is a brave person!

What have you done?

WWWTT

absolutely I never woulda had the guts to do it, her actions are so UNCANADIAN!, canadians prefer to sit on their hands and protest in silence...

[cybercoma]

why are you attacking my intelligence wyly?

So it's ok for you to use personal insults against DePape, but it's not ok for posters to use personal insults against you? Might I suggest that rules are being broken all around here?

[cybercoma]

Same deal with protesting Israel when so many nearby countries are much worse regarding human-rights.

It's slacktavism.

We only really have a say over what our country does. Israel is not exactly protested so much as our government for supporting Israel. When our government begins supporting all those other nearby countries with much worse human-rights records, then I imagine people will start protesting those countries (by which you mean our government for supporting those countries).

[cybercoma]

ya you know it goes...if your against my party you're a traitor, if you're for my party you're a patriot...

And the Liberals did the same thing by trying to say that they were Canada's natural governing party and trynig to tie the maple leaf to their party in Quebec. It's manipulative garbage and it works.

[WWWTT]

So it's ok for you to use personal insults against DePape, but it's not ok for posters to use personal insults against you? Might I suggest that rules are being broken all around here?

Actually that would make him a hypocrit,right up there with Harper and his chronies.

WWWTT

[WWWTT]

And the Liberals did the same thing by trying to say that they were Canada's natural governing party and trynig to tie the maple leaf to their party in Quebec. It's manipulative garbage and it works.

Not quite actually.Making yourself look like the natural party of Canada is not like making someone who is against you look un-Canadian.The liberal approach was a little more passive and the conservative one is more active.And the conservatives were furious at the liberal approach aswell.

WWWTT

[wyly]

So it's ok for you to use personal insults against DePape, but it's not ok for posters to use personal insults against you? Might I suggest that rules are being broken all around here?

i've been rethinking my apology, olp1fan has had no qualms dishing out insults directed at at me in other threads :angry: ...

[cybercoma]

The only difference I see between the two is that Harper has personified "Canada" in himself as a means for deflecting any personal criticism that he would take. Criticizing him or HIS government is un-Canadian you see. For the Liberals it was the entire party that was Canadian. Criticizing the party was un-Canadian because they were the natural governing party of Canada, the maple leaf was their emblem, and they were going to Canadianize Quebec. A vote against them was a vote against the entire federation. Canada would crumble. Harper's brand for me is a bit scarier because of the personification of the state and nationalism with the leader.

[wyly]

Harper's brand for me is a bit scarier because of the personification of the state and nationalism with the leader.

personality cults combined with nationalism/uber-patriotism has all too often lead to very bad moments in history... Edited December 7, 2011 by wyly

[olp1fan]

Actually what she did took a lot of guts and she is a brave person!

What have you done?

WWWTT

id give her props had she sacraficed easy money before the election to do what she did

but she waited until her contract was almost up

she gets no respect for being an opportunist who feeds off her own ego

[olp1fan]

So it's ok for you to use personal insults against DePape, but it's not ok for posters to use personal insults against yo

u? Might I suggest that rules are being broken all around here?

she doesnt post here does she?

[olp1fan]

i've been rethinking my apology, olp1fan has had no qualms dishing out insults directed at at me in other threads :angry: ...

Then report me as I have reported you

if brigette gets an account she can report me too

[wyly]

Then report me as I have reported you

if brigette gets an account she can report me too

report me, oh that's so mature ....observing that de pape has likely 100 times your political savvy isn't a reportable offense, it was a legitimate observation...

you had the chance for a reciprocal apology for past insults but you passed that up, very classy...

Edited December 7, 2011 by wyly

[olp1fan]

report me, oh that's so mature ....observing that de pape has likely 100 times your political savvy isn't a reportable offense, it was a legitimate observation...

Yeah staging a stop harper protest on tv is so savvvvvy after he won enough votes to not be stopped

your hero is sooooo smart

Edited December 7, 2011 by olp1fan

[PhilosopherKing]

ya you know it goes...if your against my party you're a traitor, if you're for my party you're a patriot...

The statement was, I understand "Turn your backs on Canada".

Going to an international forum and doing that can hardly be termed patriotic.

[PhilosopherKing]

Canada-hating? Is peaceful protest a sign of... Canada hating?

how about that Fossil-of-the-Day tally? Perhaps that 'fueled' the Canadian Youth Delegation, hey?

I saw Rex Murphy's comment on this particular 'award' the other day. He was speaking on the whole Oil Sands and "canada is a horrible global warming laggard' thing. I thought his comments were quite cogent and reasonable.

And is it not then bizarre that at Durban whole countries, like China and India, with massive populations and absolutely huge industrial and manufacturing enterprises, developing more and more electricity plants and coal generating stations -- are let off the hook by the campaigners. The production of those countries dwarfs into nearly total insignificance whatever the oil sands may represent. The Middle East, Venezuela, Russia -- everyone, by comparison gets a pass.

Rex Murphy

[olp1fan]

The statement was, I understand "Turn your backs on Canada".

Going to an international forum and doing that can hardly be termed patriotic.

considering they had to get there via airplane they are a bunch of hypocrites

polluting the atmosphere

Edited December 7, 2011 by olp1fan

[cybercoma]

I saw Rex Murphy's comment on this particular 'award' the other day. He was speaking on the whole Oil Sands and "canada is a horrible global warming laggard' thing. I thought his comments were quite cogent and reasonable.

And is it not then bizarre that at Durban whole countries, like China and India, with massive populations and absolutely huge industrial and manufacturing enterprises, developing more and more electricity plants and coal generating stations -- are let off the hook by the campaigners. The production of those countries dwarfs into nearly total insignificance whatever the oil sands may represent. The Middle East, Venezuela, Russia -- everyone, by comparison gets a pass.

Rex Murphy

It's not bizarre at all for Canadians to criticize their own government, rather than telling other countries what to do. Canadian can only really affect change at home anyway and the point is that our country ought to be setting the example. What's bizarre is the notion that Canadians should ignore domestic politics and focus on criticizing foreign governments that they really have no control over anyway.