Shwa Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 but I’d wager revamping it as a “Canadian PBS” with the same calibre of programming, would capitalise on a niche market The problem with a Canadian PBS is that outside of major metropolitan areas, there wouldn't likely be the available viewership/donations to make a regional station affordable. So regions covered by the CBC over the air would be SOL, especially many rural, remote and northern areas. I would imagine that the CBC is a fairly large customer of one telecommunications provider or another. Since the CBC cacked jPod, I have no time for much of their programming, except for HNIC, news and some documentaries. However, here is one of the best benefits of the CBC: they can operate smaller stations in smaller markets. CHEX is a Peterborough based station that covers both Peterborough and Oshawa and areas in between. The major GTA stations carry almost no news or local programming about these smaller cities. CHEX is a CBC affiliate, which means that they are a privately owned broadcaster (CORUS owns CHEX) that pays affiliation fees to the CBC to pick up bulk feeds for certain programs. To me, this is a more effective form of ownership where such ownership can exist. All other areas could be covered by CBC owned and operated stations and back in the day, there used to be quite a few under this scheme. One of the best aspects of CBC programming is that they can produce more quality material without being bound to the commercial demands of any particular advertising sector. History and Discovery seem to be suffering from this phenomenon, if it actually exists. They have had to dumb down their programming to attract the number of viewers to afford the advertisers that pay for their broadcasting costs. Quote
Boges Posted November 24, 2011 Author Report Posted November 24, 2011 I think I watch PBS more than I do the CBC (main network anyway) minus hockey of course. America's Test Kitchen is a fantastic show. Quote
Evening Star Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 When I mentioned PBS/TVO as models, it was in terms of their programming choices, not their funding model. I'd still like to see a government-funded public broadcaster. If anything, I'd be in favour of seeing less commercials. The problem with a Canadian PBS is that outside of major metropolitan areas, there wouldn't likely be the available viewership/donations to make a regional station affordable. So regions covered by the CBC over the air would be SOL, especially many rural, remote and northern areas. I would imagine that the CBC is a fairly large customer of one telecommunications provider or another. Since the CBC cacked jPod, I have no time for much of their programming, except for HNIC, news and some documentaries. However, here is one of the best benefits of the CBC: they can operate smaller stations in smaller markets. CHEX is a Peterborough based station that covers both Peterborough and Oshawa and areas in between. The major GTA stations carry almost no news or local programming about these smaller cities. CHEX is a CBC affiliate, which means that they are a privately owned broadcaster (CORUS owns CHEX) that pays affiliation fees to the CBC to pick up bulk feeds for certain programs. To me, this is a more effective form of ownership where such ownership can exist. All other areas could be covered by CBC owned and operated stations and back in the day, there used to be quite a few under this scheme. One of the best aspects of CBC programming is that they can produce more quality material without being bound to the commercial demands of any particular advertising sector. History and Discovery seem to be suffering from this phenomenon, if it actually exists. They have had to dumb down their programming to attract the number of viewers to afford the advertisers that pay for their broadcasting costs. Quote
Evening Star Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 strombo treats everyone the same no matter which political backround you are Yeah, I haven't seen a strong political bias in his interviewing or even his choice of interview subjects at all, really, especially considering that he mostly interviews entertainers. When he had P. J. O'Rourke on his show, for example, he certainly treated him as well as any other guest and never even argued with him at all. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 The problem with a Canadian PBS is that outside of major metropolitan areas, there wouldn't likely be the available viewership/donations to make a regional station affordable. So regions covered by the CBC over the air would be SOL, especially many rural, remote and northern areas. I would imagine that the CBC is a fairly large customer of one telecommunications provider or another. I’m not suggesting changing how the CBC is distributed, but what it’s end product is. One of the best aspects of CBC programming is that they can produce more quality material without being bound to the commercial demands of any particular advertising sector. History and Discovery seem to be suffering from this phenomenon, if it actually exists. They have had to dumb down their programming to attract the number of viewers to afford the advertisers that pay for their broadcasting costs. I agree……..when I see a Ken Burns documentary on PBS, or Frontline, Nova and Nature, I can’t help but think, why isn’t CBC doing this……..instead we get Little Mosque, Dragon’s Den and Don Cherry……. *I’ve nothing against Don Cherry, and he’d still be Don Cherry on TSN or Sportsnet. Quote
grogy Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 I’m not suggesting changing how the CBC is distributed, but what it’s end product is. I agree……..when I see a Ken Burns documentary on PBS, or Frontline, Nova and Nature, I can’t help but think, why isn’t CBC doing this……..instead we get Little Mosque, Dragon’s Den and Don Cherry……. *I’ve nothing against Don Cherry, and he’d still be Don Cherry on TSN or Sportsnet. One episode of Nova is worth all of the cbc's programming, save for maybe the news when I don't find it biased or preachy. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 One episode of Nova is worth all of the cbc's programming, save for maybe the news when I don't find it biased or preachy. I agree......I enjoy Peter Mansbridge, and feel he is the most trusted Canadian news anchor.....He runs circles around anything CTV, Sun or Global have..... Quote
WWWTT Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 *I’ve nothing against Don Cherry, and he’d still be Don Cherry on TSN or Sportsnet. Have you ever met Don Cherry? He is putting on an act when he's on coaches corner. He is an entertainer,a show. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Guest Derek L Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 Have you ever met Don Cherry? He is putting on an act when he's on coaches corner. He is an entertainer,a show. WWWTT I'm aware of that......But he can do his act on commercial tv......I’m sure it must piss off those taxpayers that he insults with his antics…….What does CBC pay Don Cherry or Rick Mercer? Quote
olp1fan Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) I'm aware of that......But he can do his act on commercial tv......I’m sure it must piss off those taxpayers that he insults with his antics…….What does CBC pay Don Cherry or Rick Mercer? he only gets 5 minutes a week lay off the man now you are attacking rick mercer? wow cons have no boundaries Edited November 24, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
grogy Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 I’m not suggesting changing how the CBC is distributed, but what it’s end product is. I agree……..when I see a Ken Burns documentary on PBS, or Frontline, Nova and Nature, I can’t help but think, why isn’t CBC doing this……..instead we get Little Mosque, Dragon’s Den and Don Cherry……. *I’ve nothing against Don Cherry, and he’d still be Don Cherry on TSN or Sportsnet. One episode of Nova is worth all of the cbc's programming, save for maybe the news when I don't find it biased or preachy. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 he only gets 5 minutes a week lay off the man now you are attacking rick mercer? wow cons have no boundaries Are you suggesting that Don Cherry and Rick Mercer don’t offend some taxpayers that pay their wages? Quote
olp1fan Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 so con taxpayers dont wanna pay for cbc ? i dont wanna pay for your new prisons, your shitty 1 engine jets, military missions in the mid east your stupid court costs... when will we be reimbursed for all of that! Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 so con taxpayers dont wanna pay for cbc ? i dont wanna pay for your new prisons, your shitty 1 engine jets, military missions in the mid east your stupid court costs... when will we be reimbursed for all of that! When did I say I don’t want to pay for CBC? I don't want to pay for Cherry and Mercer. Quote
olp1fan Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 Are you suggesting that Don Cherry and Rick Mercer don’t offend some taxpayers that pay their wages? harper and his marry men offend me and other taxpayers that pay their wages Quote
olp1fan Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 When did I say I don’t want to pay for CBC? I don't want to pay for Cherry and Mercer. I don't wanna pay for Harper, Baird, Clement,Mckay, Kent Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) harper and his marry men offend me and other taxpayers that pay their wages Don't vote for them......taxpayers don't get a vote on Don Cherry and Rick Mercer Edited November 24, 2011 by Derek L Quote
olp1fan Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 Don't vote for them......taxpayers don't get a vote on Don Cherry and Rick Mercer Rick Mercer is a lot more popular than you think.. Don Cherry not so much anymore however Coaches Corner is an integral flagship of Canadas identity Quote
Boges Posted November 24, 2011 Author Report Posted November 24, 2011 I'm sure if the CBC didn't make money of Cherry they'd have canned him long ago. Coach's Corner is the highest rated thing on the CBC. Quote
olp1fan Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 Don't vote for them...... The only people that could vote for them is people in their riding... which the majority of Canada isnt in Quote
olp1fan Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 I'm sure if the CBC didn't make money of Cherry they'd have canned him long ago. Coach's Corner is the highest rated thing on the CBC. they tried once and there was a huge backlash Quote
Boges Posted November 24, 2011 Author Report Posted November 24, 2011 they tried once and there was a huge backlash I bet if they fired Strombo or Rick Mercer there wouldn't be. Quote
olp1fan Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 I bet if they fired Strombo or Rick Mercer there wouldn't be. Strombo and Mercer get solid ratings Quote
Boges Posted November 24, 2011 Author Report Posted November 24, 2011 Strombo and Mercer get solid ratings Sure they do. What time is Strombo even on anyway? Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 24, 2011 Report Posted November 24, 2011 I bet if they fired Strombo or Rick Mercer there wouldn't be. And what do think will happen to their ratings once CBC is privatized? Quote
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