For Conservatives, contrary positions are treasonous

[Smallc]

Alberta needs to move beyond third world style resource exports at some point.

How exactly is anything about Alberta 'third world style'? First, there is much more to Alberta's economy, and second, it isn't third world countries that export resources, it's resource rich economies.

[E James]

If it was more cost effective to send synthetic cruse down there, it would be done already. It must have penciled out to send the diluted tar down the pipe and do everything in one shot down there.

What will be interesting is if they send that upgraded tar straight to china or will they have to make synthetic crude...

Your logic that it would be done already is flawed. For the time being it is more cost effective. However, in hindsight the long term cost of Canadian workers could be astronomical if we miss the boat now developing policy that encourage investment in a complete end-to-end energy production network in Canada. The companies seek to profit themselves not a particular country that is why governments can develop policy that encourages the hand of business.

Edited November 20, 2011 by E James

[Jack Weber]

The Conservatives aren't building anything.

And nor will they...Supply and demand,and all...

[Smallc]

Well, the government shouldn't really be building these kinds of things. Putting the refinery in Alberta really isn't practical.

[SF/PF]

How exactly is anything about Alberta 'third world style'? First, there is much more to Alberta's economy, and second, it isn't third world countries that export resources, it's resource rich economies.

Oh? I'd be interested in hearing about all of the other industry that exists in Alberta outside of resources!

[Smallc]

It isn't just about the extraction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Alberta

[blueblood]

Your logic that it would be done already is flawed. For the time being it is more cost effective. However, in hindsight the long term cost of Canadian workers could be astronomical if we miss the boat now developing policy that encourage investment in a complete end-to-end energy production network in Canada. The companies seek to profit themselves not a particular country that is why governments can develop policy that encourages the hand of business.

There isn't enough people in canada to justify tens of billions of dollars building pipelines to eastern Canada and refineries that would run at a loss. The network already exists and works well. Keystone xl is expanding on said network. There is a massive population in china and that's why we have pipe going that way. And if diluted tar doesn't keep on a ship there may be an opportunity for synthetic crude production.

Not only that there isn't enough money available to build the kind of network you want. It would be like digging ditches and filling them up again.

[SF/PF]

It isn't just about the extraction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Alberta

Exactly. Alberta's entire economy is based on adding value to our raw resources. Which is why the current trend toward raw resource export is going to be devastating to the province in the long term.

[Smallc]

[SF/PF]

Indeed.

[Mr.Canada]

Actually allowing someone to promote hatred and violence would be guilt through assosiation not free speech.

WWWTT

Lol. Free speech is free speech. We don't have it here in Canada. The US does. Free Speech means you can say whatever you want in public not just some things, all things. Hurt peoples feelings or not. People in Canada are so sissified they cannot even take someone hurting their feelings. They run off the the Human rights tribunal....lol. What a bunch of wimps we're becoming.

[Shwa]

Lol. Free speech is free speech. We don't have it here in Canada. The US does. Free Speech means you can say whatever you want in public not just some things, all things. Hurt peoples feelings or not. People in Canada are so sissified they cannot even take someone hurting their feelings. They run off the the Human rights tribunal....lol. What a bunch of wimps we're becoming.

What a wimp you are becoming, for believing in your own nonsense.