Shwa Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 It's up to the CBC to retract and apologize. I see no reason now why Ford should release them as it wouldn't matter, you et al would simply say they were edited - so what's the point. Then there is no need for the CBC to retract or apologize. Quote
Argus Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Or she's trying to cover their asses for such a long response time to an emergency call, even if it wasn't for the mayor! I thought that was kind of odd, myself. A caller who has been known to have gotten death threats reports a threatening person marching up his driveway and it takes the cops ten minutes to get there? And he's the mayor! And a mayor that supposedly is really friendly with the cops. Shows you the level of service provided by the Toronto Police Service. Citizens would be better advised to arm themselves because it seems they're on their own in case of violence. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Argus, don't you think the dispatcher probably asked him for details of the incident? Something along the lines of, "calm down sir and tell me what happened." After telling the dispatcher that a 60-year-old woman with a This Hour Has 22 Minutes microphone and a camera tried to interview him and now (as he was talking to 911) they are retreating down the sidewalk... well, I'm sure you can see why the cops didn't rush there with lights and sirens. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Warren Kinsella, for what it's worth since he's obviously partisan, claims that Conservative brass had a little a heart-to-heart with Rob Ford, telling him to get his shit together. The CBC incident happened a few days later. So, he's not making any friends anywhere with his BS. Quote
Shwa Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 I thought that was kind of odd, myself. A caller who has been known to have gotten death threats reports a threatening person marching up his driveway and it takes the cops ten minutes to get there? And he's the mayor! And a mayor that supposedly is really friendly with the cops. Shows you the level of service provided by the Toronto Police Service. Citizens would be better advised to arm themselves because it seems they're on their own in case of violence. "There is this lady, dressed in a red viking warrior princess halloween costume, accosting me with a microphone claiming to be Marg Delahunty from Newfoundland. HALP! THEY ARE GONNA TO KILL ME!" Of course, this was after Rob F-King Ford was caught chuckling on camera. Release the tapes, we need to determine what sort of danger he was in. Clear the air Mayor Ford! Quote
Argus Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 He don't need no stinking "clear" name !!!!! He's ROBFUCKINGFORD !!!!!!! Lmao some more! It's interesting to see the way the jackals of the left will seize on any pretext to mock and ridicule anyone perceived to be 'the enemy'. Their blather can really be condensed to the sound of a pack of hyenas howling and jumping up and down, meaningless babble. If Miller had made a call there'd be a few questions but that would be it. Because it's Ford, and the Left loathes him, it's a non-stop jeer fest. In your case, you've taken a phrase that someone suggested he might have said - but which almost everyone has denied - and posted it repeatedly along with the sort of hee-haw attitude we'd see from a donkey. Yes, the Left - animals at the zoo. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Argus, don't you think the dispatcher probably asked him for details of the incident? Something along the lines of, "calm down sir and tell me what happened." After telling the dispatcher that a 60-year-old woman with a This Hour Has 22 Minutes I think it's been established he had no idea who she was, much less her age. She's clearly not a small woman, and she's got a number of people with her. This is the CBC, after all, so in addition to the cameramen there'd have been a variety of hangers on, from producers to hairdressers to sound men. A crowd shows up in the morning, coming up his driveway shouting at him, and he withdraws and calls the cops. I don't find that to be a shocking response, personally. And the dispatcher really can't tell for sure if there's a threat. In any event, I think that we owe a particular duty to those who are in office to ensure no one gets near them like that. I don't care if the politician is at the local, provincial or federal level. I could get a cab in ten minutes. I would expect the cops to show up before that. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Shwa Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Posted October 29, 2011 It's interesting to see the way the jackals of the left will seize on any pretext to mock and ridicule anyone perceived to be 'the enemy'. Their blather can really be condensed to the sound of a pack of hyenas howling and jumping up and down, meaningless babble. If Miller had made a call there'd be a few questions but that would be it. Because it's Ford, and the Left loathes him, it's a non-stop jeer fest. In your case, you've taken a phrase that someone suggested he might have said - but which almost everyone has denied - and posted it repeatedly along with the sort of hee-haw attitude we'd see from a donkey. Yes, the Left - animals at the zoo. Yes, the Right. Cranky old men berating the clouds in the sky. Always with the hypothetical strawman to make comparisons, but no real isight into reality. Of course, it never occurred that should David Miller had an encounter with Marg Delahunty in a halloween costume he might have played along and has some fun with it. Use it as PR. Increase his approval rating. But he likely wouldn't have called 911 that's for certain. More clouds pass by. More angry shouting follows. Quote
Boges Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) Yes, the Right. Cranky old men berating the clouds in the sky. So you respond to Crude generalizations about the Left with Crude Generalizations about the Right. Who are these old cranky people you're referring to? Most have conceded that the 911 call was an overreaction. And most conceded that going to his home first thing in the morning was in bad taste. Even Black Dog conceded that. As I said Wednesday both sides were wrong, let's move on. How many times is the Halloween joke going to be repeated in this thread BTW? The CBC kept this story alive by reporting details they have no evidence to support. And people are believing those details without any evidence, just un-named sources. Someone is lying for sure but from every media report I've heard, even from the Star. No one's sources are agreeing with the CBC's version of the story. So unless these sources reveal themselves there's no reason Ford needs to release the tape. Edited October 29, 2011 by Boges Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 I think it's been established he had no idea who she was, much less her age. She's clearly not a small woman, and she's got a number of people with her. This is the CBC, after all, so in addition to the cameramen there'd have been a variety of hangers on, from producers to hairdressers to sound men. A crowd shows up in the morning, coming up his driveway shouting at him, and he withdraws and calls the cops. I don't find that to be a shocking response, personally. And the dispatcher really can't tell for sure if there's a threat. In any event, I think that we owe a particular duty to those who are in office to ensure no one gets near them like that. I don't care if the politician is at the local, provincial or federal level. I could get a cab in ten minutes. I would expect the cops to show up before that. A crowd? Even Ford said it was her and the cameraman. He claims he had no idea who she was, yet she was obviously in a costume and the microphone had a giant 22 Minutes logo on it. I had no idea who the heck this Marg Delahunty character was, but it was incredibly obvious from the video what was going on. Moreover, he was practically laughing at the initial encounter because afterall it's so absurd it's funny. If he wanted them to leave, he should have told them he's not doing an interview and kick them off his property. Calling 911 and throwing a fit the way he did when the cops weren't at his door within a few minutes during rush-hour in Toronto is ridiculous. Especially considering the situation, which as I'm saying would have probably been explained to the dispatcher. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Yes, he was so harrassed that he got in his car and tried to drive away first, even with a frightened kid in tow. Then he went back into his house to call 911. You know, because of that big, scary woman in the red leather viking dress with the microphone. That "big scary woman" was on his private property, preventing him from leaving. What gives someone the right to do that? I doubt whether the fact that it was "22 Minutes" overrides a person's rights. His child was with him, he didn't want to participate/be involved. They crew should have stopped there; preventing him to leave was crossing the line - especially with his child there. Children are often afraid of Halloween costumes, even when shown it's one of their friends underneath. When someone refuses to leave your property and prevents you from leaving, you have every right to call the police. He did not take matters into his own hands, he did the right thing, IMO. Having said that, it still sort of always amazes me just a little bit how this type of thing becomes about "the left" and "the right." That has nothing to do with it. Such a terrible thing! Run for the hills! The Big Bad CBC is here to do some comedy. Well, at least it wasn't Rick Mercer, eh? He was under no obligation to participate and they had no right to try to prevent him from leaving. I think it would have been odd if he had involved his child in such a stunt. His child was his first concern, his first obligation. Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 That "big scary woman" was on his private property, preventing him from leaving. One of the calls was made after he already left. So I guess he couldn't have really been "prevented from leaving." Thanks for playing. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Guest American Woman Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) One of the calls was made after he already left. So I guess he couldn't have really been "prevented from leaving. The first call was made before he left, so yeah, they could - and apparently did - prevent him from leaving. Thanks for playing. You're most welcome. :angry: Edited October 29, 2011 by American Woman Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 BUT THE KIDS!!! Let me get this straight. You don't think it's wrong for adults, even if they are from a TV show (not sure how that grants them special status), to scare kids? To remain uninvited on private property? To try to prevent one from leaving their property? And you don't think a parent should look out for their child? You don't think that would be an obligation and responsibility? Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 The first call was made before he left, so yeah, they could - and apparently did - prevent him from leaving. He's like 900 pounds. Do you really think a 60-year-old lady holding a microphone is going to prevent him from doing anything? The proof that she didn't prevent him from leaving is that he left. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Who's the real victim here? Let the Networks Decide Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Do I not think that a 300 pound football coach and politician should call 911 when a 60-year-old female reporter approaches him with questions and *gasp* a cameraman? Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 He's like 900 pounds. Do you really think a 60-year-old lady holding a microphone is going to prevent him from doing anything? Unless he was willing to run her over with his car, yes. The proof that she didn't prevent him from leaving is that he left. After he called the police. You think that may have had something to do with it? Good grief. Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Unless he was willing to run her over with his car, yes. He didn't run her over when he left. Now you're making stuff up. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Guest American Woman Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Do I not think that a 300 pound football coach and politician should call 911 when a 60-year-old female reporter approaches him with questions and *gasp* a cameraman? You didn't answer the questions. Still waiting. Your refusal to answer will tell me what I need to know. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) American Woman, on 29 October 2011 - 10:43 AM, said: Unless he was willing to run her over with his car, yes.He didn't run her over when he left. Now you're making stuff up. Do you even read before you respond?? I didn't say that he did. The claim was made - and it was your claim - that a mere slip of a woman wouldn't be able to prevent the World's Fattest Man from doing anything. I said that unless he was willing to run her over with his car, yes, she could prevent him from leaving. Capice? Edited October 29, 2011 by American Woman Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 I said that unless he was willing to run her over with his car, yes, she could prevent him from leaving. Yeah, but she didn't, did she? HE LEFT. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Guest American Woman Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 Yeah, but she didn't, did she? HE LEFT. AFTER HE CALLED THE POLICE! HE CALLED THE POLICE BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO PREVENT HIM FROM LEAVING. And again, in response to your claim, an ittsy bittsy woman who is lucky the wind isn't blowing her away could prevent a giant of a fat man from doing something - contrary to your claim. Now if you want to keep playing stupid, you're going to have to play with yourself. I'm quickly reminded as to why I rarely respond to you. Have fun. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 You didn't answer the questions. Still waiting. Your refusal to answer will tell me what I need to know. My refusal to answer? Yeah. I'm sure that's what tells you all you need to know. Your ignorance and stubborness have already informed you of all you need to know before you even asked the questions. Quote
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