Gaddafi has been captured

[GostHacked]

Do I look like I am going to come running and spoon feed you? You again mistake me for one of your servants.

[GostHacked]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45085985/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/

WASHINGTON — The guns in Libya have barely quieted, and NATO’s military assistance to the rebellion that toppled Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi will not end officially until Monday. But a new invasion force is already plotting its own landing on the shores of Tripoli.

Western security, construction and infrastructure companies that see profit-making opportunities receding in Iraq and Afghanistan have turned their sights on Libya, now free of four decades of dictatorship. Entrepreneurs are abuzz about the business potential of a country with huge needs and the oil to pay for them, plus the competitive advantage of Libyan gratitude toward the United States and its NATO partners.

A week before Colonel Qaddafi’s death on Oct. 20, a delegation from 80 French companies arrived in Tripoli to meet officials of the Transitional National Council, the interim government. Last week, the new British defense minister, Philip Hammond, urged British companies to “pack their suitcases” and head to Tripoli

The vultures are hungry.

[maple_leafs182]

Other oil producers are selling oil to China and aren't being bombed. The conspiracy theory is idiotic.

All countries trade oil in dollars. If countries stopped trading in dollars that would have a huge impact not only on America but the global economy.

The demand for the dollar along with its value would fall greatly. You would see prices rise which would hurt business, the consumers and the greater economy.

[GostHacked]

All countries trade oil in dollars. If countries stopped trading in dollars that would have a huge impact not only on America but the global economy.

The demand for the dollar along with its value would fall greatly. You would see prices rise which would hurt business, the consumers and the greater economy.

Actually with more competition it would drive the price down. Which would be welcome.

[jbg]

Do I look like I am going to come running and spoon feed you? You again mistake me for one of your servants.

I love these self-entitled socialists.

Rue, normally I would side with you but Gostacked has treated me with respect on these forums. You haven't. You treat others like servants or garbage.

[GostHacked]

Rue, normally I would side with you but Gostacked has treated me with respect on these forums. You haven't. You treat others like servants or garbage.

This is a nice surprise. I appreciate this jbg!

And so as some of us expected.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/world/africa/libya-infighting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Tripoli, Libya (CNN) -- The Libyan war may be over, but rivalries rage on among some regional militias, leading to a mutual distrust that poses a challenge to the new leadership.

Earlier this week, the rivalry was evident when dozens of fighters clashed at a Tripoli hospital in what residents said was the biggest armed confrontation in the capital in weeks.

If there was no civil war before, there will be one now.

[Rue]

Gost Hacked

Everything I said about Moe is public record.

No I did not make up his wars with Chad,

Niger, or his supporting the Janjaweed or

other Arab terrorist groups in Darfur that

engaged in genocide or his open hatred of

Christians and black Africans in his statements

and speeches when he created the Arab Legion

and his vision of Africa.

Ghaddafi's racism is public knowledge. If he

was not an Arab but a white man who had said

the same thing about black Africans he would

have been called a racist.

Anyone who claims to be a socialist gets

away with facism and racism. Its only

fat white Americans or Euros that get such

a label. Chinese, Russians, never. Arab

leaders never. Zionists-of course.

No I did not make up he financed Mengistu, Bokassa,

Campeoa, Taylor, Idi Amin Dada Jr., who all

with his financial support were able to carry out

mass murders and genocide.

No I did not make up he financed Palestinian

terror organizations responsible for the killing

of innocent civilians, The Red Brigade and Ira responsible

for the same.

No I did not make up he financed the Black September and

the Munich Massacre.

No I did not make up he invaded Egypt.

No I did not make up he carried out slaughter of the

Berbers in his country,

No I did not make up he engaged in thousands of public

murders across Libya orchestrated by his Revolutionary

Committees.

No I did not make up the fact that 30-40% of his

population was permanently employed and he amassed

over 200 billion in banks and never spent it on

Libya-so spare me the socialist utopia stories of

his rule. He hoarded the money and spent some of it

on terrorists.

No I did not make up that Freedom Of Press listed Libya

as the most censored country of all African and Middle

East countries.

No I did not make up he arrested the equivalent of 20%

of his population and tortured them and financed

Lockerbie and the killing of a British police officer

and a cafe bombing in West Berlin killing 3 and wounding

229 and openly had his agents attack Libyan exiles in

London and murdered 25 politically exiled opponents in less

that 10 years.

No I did not make up he raped his bodyguards or

Libyan virgin girls he would pick at random and financed

terror organizations in Indonesia and the Phillipines

responsible for terror and death of innocent civilians.

No I did not invent he accumulated over 23 tons of mustard

gas and over a 1000 tons of precursor chemicals when he

failed to procure an atomic bomb from China or

Pakistan.

No I did not invent he sent troops into Uganda to save

Idi Amin only to have the Tanzanians whip his army's ass.

No I did not invent he placed a puppet stooge in the

Central African Empire who emptied the country of its

diamonds and natural resources that made it into Ghaddafi's

personal banks while the people in that country

starved.

No I did not make up he financed the biggest cocaine cartel

in Columbia.

No I did not make up he in fact financed the Serbian massacres

of Muslims in Europe or the Nationalist Party in the UK or

the neo Nazi Heder in Austria and financed neo Nazi groups

in Australia and New Zealand.

No I will not reference the above for you. Find it yourself.

Even if I provided references to you, we know the game-you

will claim the sources as being CIA conspiracy disinformation.

Yah yah yah go play with some of your trendy leftist apologists.

Think I am rude.

Ghadafi was much ruder than me.

As for JBG I am glad he likes you.

Its hilarious seeing him suck up to anti Israelis like you

after what he has said about Muslims.

You want sensitive download some Justin Bieber.

Edited November 3, 2011 by Rue

[GostHacked]

There's being rude, the there is being a dick about it. But overall if you think this so called war with Libya, based on humanitarian aid, by bombing the shit out of a country was worth it, I cannot agree. Regardless of how bad anyone though he really was, and I am not denying it. He just may not have been bad as much as the media portrays. There is also the possibility of some of these attacks being false flag. I know call me crazy. I've heard worse from better people. But anyways, this war to me was simply about how Libya decides to trade their oil, and with who.

This is a small piece to a larger puzzle here.

But at least we got a crapload of western oil/construction companies knocking doors on the now NTC, which has been recognized by many countries now as the 'official' government representing Libya. And all the previous assets that were frozen from Gadhafi(how would they be able to do that ? that could be a thread on it's own!) are now just instantly handed over to a bunch of rag tag rebels, and some possibly of the Al-Queda persuasion. 140 tonnes of gold taken from Libya and given back to these guys? And contractors knocking down the door for a piece of that pie? Coincidence I am sure.

Not to mention this civil war was instigated by the west, I believe anyways, simply because again, the British SAS in Libya months before this stuff went down. Multiple passports? Guns? Explosives? Diplomatic mission you say?

Bullocks.

[Smallc]

Is anything not a conspiracy to you?

[GostHacked]

Is anything not a conspiracy to you?

You are free to debunk what I have stated.

[Wild Bill]

Gandalf has been captured? When did that happen? Was it Sauron? Sauruman?

Oh, sorry! GADDAFI has been captured!

Damn these old eyes! I need to get my bifocal presciption overhauled.

Never mind!

[GostHacked]

As expected, the tribes are now going to be waring with each other.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15726099

Several days of fighting between rival factions near the Libyan coastal city of Zawiya have left at least seven people dead, reports say.

The BBC's Karen Allen in Libya says rival communities have been fighting for an area previously controlled by Gaddafi loyalists.

The interim government said the fighting had been resolved.

However analysts say the violence raises questions about stability in post-Gaddafi Libya.

Well, many of us expected this. Do we get involved or do we stay out of it?

[Rue]

As expected, the tribes are now going to be waring with each other.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15726099

Well, many of us expected this. Do we get involved or do we stay out of it?

Well I do not disagree that for Ghaddafi to have stayed in power he had to have been propped at various times by the West, China, Japan and Russia who all benefitted from the oil exports. Its a fact. Especially Italy.

The countries who benefitted from Libyan oil clearly felt it was permissable to prop this man even after what he did. We all saw Blair, Sarkosy, the Italian PM, and yes Ministers from Canada go over their and grovel kissing Ghaddafi's buttox as did Russia and China. That is no conspiracy, just a fact. It aint a secret. People needed oil and were willing to look the other way with him as he killed his people as long as they could get their oil.

China has no problems financing a genocide in Sudan to get its oil or protect Iran to get its oil. Russia will get into bed with Iran or anyone willing to buy its products.

The world's nations are all whores for sale in that sense. We all know that.

Now in regards to the present situation, I wonder sometimes. In a country like Somalia with zero resources, no one cares. A country like Libya with all that oil, I think it is just crazy to believe the West, China and Russia are not already there trying to weasel their ways into the good will of those they think will control the oil supplies, i.e., country.

The tribal war is probably already a proxy war between competing factions each sponsored by external sources trying to get control of the oil. I do not think that is too far a stretch. I don't think its a conspiracy nut case view to think there are Europeans, Russians, Chinese, Americans, etc., there on the ground involved in efforts to carve up the oil control. Of course. China and India are desperate for oil, as desperate as Europe and the U.S. and Japan. The whole world has gone mad over oil.

Should they get involved? I would suggest they have been deeply for years.

[GostHacked]

Well I do not disagree that for Ghaddafi to have stayed in power he had to have been propped at various times by the West, China, Japan and Russia who all benefitted from the oil exports. Its a fact. Especially Italy.

No arguments there.

The countries who benefitted from Libyan oil clearly felt it was permissable to prop this man even after what he did. We all saw Blair, Sarkosy, the Italian PM, and yes Ministers from Canada go over their and grovel kissing Ghaddafi's buttox as did Russia and China. That is no conspiracy, just a fact. It aint a secret. People needed oil and were willing to look the other way with him as he killed his people as long as they could get their oil.

So that dispels the rumours that we went in for 'humanitarian aid'. One point I made from the start.

China has no problems financing a genocide in Sudan to get its oil or protect Iran to get its oil. Russia will get into bed with Iran or anyone willing to buy its products.

Well that explains why the West won't get into Sudan. And it could explain my stance that this is also a strategic foothold in Africa by the west.

The world's nations are all whores for sale in that sense. We all know that.

Agreed, but why do we think our leaders are better that the other leaders when all of these people engage in the same stuff while telling us they are doing something else?

Now in regards to the present situation, I wonder sometimes. In a country like Somalia with zero resources, no one cares. A country like Libya with all that oil, I think it is just crazy to believe the West, China and Russia are not already there trying to weasel their ways into the good will of those they think will control the oil supplies, i.e., country.

There are many places where real humanitarian aid is needed, but for the most part ignored, because they wont make gains from it. It's sad that humanitarian aid comes with strings attached.

The tribal war is probably already a proxy war between competing factions each sponsored by external sources trying to get control of the oil. I do not think that is too far a stretch. I don't think its a conspiracy nut case view to think there are Europeans, Russians, Chinese, Americans, etc., there on the ground involved in efforts to carve up the oil control. Of course. China and India are desperate for oil, as desperate as Europe and the U.S. and Japan. The whole world has gone mad over oil.

We are seeing military skirmishes and we will see eventual wars over these resources.

Should they get involved? I would suggest they have been deeply for years.

On this, I agree.

[jbg]

As for JBG I am glad he likes you.

Its hilarious seeing him suck up to anti Israelis like you

after what he has said about Muslims.

You want sensitive download some Justin Bieber.

You misread my posts and went off on me for no reason. The fact is I do not consider violence a Muslim issue. I have made clear my view is that the violence problem springs from desert warrior cultures that long predated Islam in that part of the world. The Apaches were no better.

[blueblood]

Apparently they got seif al Islam, and they plan on keeping him alive this time.

Ctv