Leeadamaa Posted June 26, 2011 Report Posted June 26, 2011 Yeah ive been watching the debate for as long as i can be awake for it and i really dont wanna miss the senate on this one because my long watching time will have gone to waste if i dont see this from the tableing and first reading to the final stage of it becoming a law.....so please help me out on this one thank you Quote
Leeadamaa Posted June 26, 2011 Author Report Posted June 26, 2011 i need help on this issure guys CMON Quote
jbg Posted June 26, 2011 Report Posted June 26, 2011 I gather it's about consumer safety but what's the gist of this bill? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Topaz Posted June 26, 2011 Report Posted June 26, 2011 Senate gets it Sunday night and its done about 9PM, if it telecast, C-PAC should carry it on TV or by computer. Quote
cybercoma Posted June 27, 2011 Report Posted June 27, 2011 It's being given Royal Assent as I write this. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted June 27, 2011 Report Posted June 27, 2011 Thank freaking god. Labour disputes shouldn't be able to hijack a country like this. Off to the mailbox tomorrow. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Topaz Posted June 27, 2011 Report Posted June 27, 2011 The next postal contract is coming up for the rural deliveries, this isn't over until is over. Quote
cybercoma Posted June 27, 2011 Report Posted June 27, 2011 Thank freaking god. Labour disputes shouldn't be able to hijack a country like this. Off to the mailbox tomorrow. You're right. Canada Post should have never been allowed to lock out all of its employees. The Prime Minister should have called that hack Deepak Chopra and told him to unlock the doors. Quote
Smallc Posted June 27, 2011 Report Posted June 27, 2011 You're right. Canada Post should have never been allowed to lock out all of its employees. The Prime Minister should have called that hack Deepak Chopra and told him to unlock the doors. They locked the doors because people weren't sending mail. You know why they weren't sending the mail? Because of the rotating strikes. Volume had dropped precipitously. Quote
cybercoma Posted June 28, 2011 Report Posted June 28, 2011 Yeah. I heard Canada Post's lies on television and by reading the news. I don't believe mail dropped off as much as they claimed during the rotating strikes. Even if it had... they dropped off to ZERO when the doors were locked, so they only have themselves to blame for those lost revenues. Quote
Smallc Posted June 28, 2011 Report Posted June 28, 2011 Yeah. I heard Canada Post's lies on television and by reading the news. I don't believe mail dropped off as much as they claimed during the rotating strikes. E That's nice, but I don't recall your belief of something being a prerequisite for it's truth. Quote
Tilter Posted June 28, 2011 Report Posted June 28, 2011 You're right. Canada Post should have never been allowed to lock out all of its employees. The Prime Minister should have called that hack Deepak Chopra and told him to unlock the doors. He did---- it's called back to work legislation Quote
DrGreenthumb Posted June 29, 2011 Report Posted June 29, 2011 They locked the doors because people weren't sending mail. You know why they weren't sending the mail? Because of the rotating strikes. Volume had dropped precipitously. People just started sending stuff by purolator, which Canada Post owns, so in reality Canada post was not really losing much at all. Harper made sure to support the owners by stopping the slaves from being able to collectively bargain for their rights. Quote
Smallc Posted June 30, 2011 Report Posted June 30, 2011 People just started sending stuff by purolator, which Canada Post owns, Sure...they were also sending it by Fedex, DHL, UPS (for some reason) and others. Canada Post in fact was losing significant money. Quote
DrGreenthumb Posted June 30, 2011 Report Posted June 30, 2011 Sure...they were also sending it by Fedex, DHL, UPS (for some reason) and others. Canada Post in fact was losing significant money. Well that's kind of the point of a strike isn't it? To make the owners realize that they need the workers? If striking didn't affect the company, what would be the point? This is what gives the workers leverage when collectively bargaining for better work conditions. Quote
Smallc Posted June 30, 2011 Report Posted June 30, 2011 Well that's kind of the point of a strike isn't it? That's not what you were saying though, was it? Quote
Bonam Posted June 30, 2011 Report Posted June 30, 2011 Harper made sure to support the owners by stopping the slaves from being able to collectively bargain for their rights. Care to further elaborate on your comparison of postal workers to slaves? Quote
DrGreenthumb Posted June 30, 2011 Report Posted June 30, 2011 That's not what you were saying though, was it? Nope I'll admit that I was minimalizing CP's lossess, just like they have been exagerating them. Quote
DrGreenthumb Posted June 30, 2011 Report Posted June 30, 2011 Care to further elaborate on your comparison of postal workers to slaves? It is the message that the government is sending to all workers, not just the posties, that the owning class, will be favoured over the "working" class. They are basically telling the worker to go sit down at the back of the bus and shut the fawk up. Accept that your rulers make the rules and be happy for whatever scraps fall off their table. Do what you are told or be ready to live in one of the megaprisons we are building for the unruly. I hope that the workers of this country will unite and crush these assholes with a general strike. Quote
jbg Posted June 30, 2011 Report Posted June 30, 2011 Harper made sure to support the owners by stopping the slaves from being able to collectively bargain for their rights. Care to further elaborate on your comparison of postal workers to slaves? This illustrates the problem of public sector unionization. The employer is not some fat-cat industrialist; it is us. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
dre Posted June 30, 2011 Report Posted June 30, 2011 This illustrates the problem of public sector unionization. The employer is not some fat-cat industrialist; it is us. Right then we should put pressure on our representitives to bargain harder. In most of the cases I see where unions (both public and private) have achieved unreasonable pay or perks its because the employer didnt bargain hard enough when times were good... they didnt plan for the future. Collective bargaining is supposed to be war. In this case the government represents the tax payers, and the unions represent the workers. Some of you are choosing to blame the unions for doing exactly what they are supposed to do. But guess what? Go look at any collective bargaining agreement and youll notice something interesting near the bottom of it... the signature of the employer. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
TwoDucks Posted June 30, 2011 Report Posted June 30, 2011 That's nice, but I don't recall your belief of something being a prerequisite for it's truth. And tell me, other than your belief in Chopra's word, what is your proof mail volume dropped significantly? And no, the fact you didn't get mail for two weeks doesn't count. Quote
Smallc Posted July 1, 2011 Report Posted July 1, 2011 And tell me, other than your belief in Chopra's word, what is your proof mail volume dropped significantly? And no, the fact you didn't get mail for two weeks doesn't count. My mother works for Canada Post, and was on the conference calls twice a week. They literally had people standing around at the new Winnipeg sorting plant, because there was no mail to sort. Mail volumes were tiny in comparison to what they usually are. Quote
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