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A lot of the Liberal votes will will coming over to the NDP on Monday for the ABC campaign.

Liberals scramble to save own seats in election’s dying days

It's now all about the ground game, identifying and getting out the Liberal vote, Senator Smith said. Many Liberals have emphasized the fact that 800,000 Liberal voters stayed home in the 2008 election. They are keeping their fingers crossed these voters will come back to them on Monday.

But as Liberals try to refocus in these last crucial days, the infighting is beginning with some senior Liberals blaming a disconnect between the leader and his national campaign team.

They blame the polling – arguing that it misdiagnosed the concerns and attitudes of voters.

But pollster Michael Marzolini said “it’s news to me.”

“How do they think I have misdiagnosed? The only thing I failed to predict was Layton’s debate performance – and that kind of prediction isn’t my job.”

Others are blaming the flurry of confusing messages.

A senior Liberal complained, for example, that while the party’s health-care ads were being run on television, Mr. Ignatieff was talking about “rising up” and calling the Tories anti-democratic. He was repeatedly blown off message and seemed to come up with new themes almost daily, from concern-for-democracy to health care to wasted spending on the G8 and G20 summits. This confused voters.

Contrast this to the focused Tory message about jobs and the economy.

But so far, the Liberals are not yet directly blaming Mr. Ignatieff – there is a view that he has done an admirable job. The blaming may come on Tuesday, however, if the polls are correct.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/liberals-scramble-to-save-own-seats-in-elections-dying-days/article2003127/?from=sec368

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Specifically, the NDP would cut the small-business tax rate to nine per cent from 11. It would also set up a job-creation tax credit that would give employers up to $4,500 for each new hire. And it would extend the accelerated capital cost allowance for four more years.

"Today's announcement is a reasonable, affordable proposal that will have a direct impact on job creation," Layton said.

At the same time, Layton says he wants corporate tax rates to be competitive with the United States, pledging to keep the combined federal-provincial rate below the U.S. rate.

God damned socialist.... :lol:

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The knives were out from these guys from day one. They can't help themselves. The biggest difference between New Democrats and Liberals is that we speak with one voice. We argue at convention we vote and then we send out leader out to tell the people what we stand for, we accept when we lose and don't blame them.

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What are we looking at here - 125 seats?

Crunching the surge: Where the NDP could pick up seats

Some number crunchers suggest the New Democrats could hold a third of the bench-space in a reconfigured House of Commons after the May 2 election thanks to a dramatic surge in support that began mid-campaign.

But figuring out where those seats could be won is not easy. The burgeoning enthusiasm for Jack Layton’s party could drop off – or grow – in these last few days. And vote splitting with the Liberals and the Bloc Québécois could create unforeseen outcomes.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/crunching-the-surge-where-the-ndp-could-pick-up-seats/article2002898/

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God damned socialist.... :lol:

9 % is just the start to. We passed a resolution at Convention which Gary Dewar pushed to make a part of the parties priorities to follow the Manitoba model and cut the small business tax to nothing if it is affordable for Canada to do. I should know I was there, I voted for it.

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9 % is just the start to. We passed a resolution at Convention which Gary Dewar pushed to make a part of the parties priorities to follow the Manitoba model and cut the small business tax to nothing if it is affordable for Canada to do. I should know I was there, I voted for it.

I wonder if an NDP government would recall Gary Doer from Washington and make him into some kind of economic advisor?

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The problem that the NDP is going to run into is this ridiculous notion of "Anything But Harper". People that would otherwise vote NDP are going to vote Liberal in ridings where they think the Liberal candidate has a better shot. Meanwhile, those that think the Orange Tide has risen will vote NDP. The vote splitting is going to be a disaster on election night and ironically it will be because of the Anything But Harper campaign that is designed to stop vote splitting. People need to stop being so stupid and just vote for the candidates that they want, not against what they don't want.

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I wonder if an NDP government would recall Gary Doer from Washington and make him into some kind of economic advisor?

One could hope. All I know when Gary gave his speech at convention it was very much about a topic that isn't addressed much by the NDP which would be the economics. The place was packed and all things he talked about which they did in Manitoba we passed as part of our platform.

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Bricker is full of it as usual.

Against all odds, the NDP is poised for a big finish on Election Day

So what happens on Election Day? “The strange thing here is nobody really knows,” says Bricker. Whether or not the NDP’s new popularity turns into seats is an open question.

Bricker suspects the NDP surge will scare Tory supporters into action.

He says “the real question is what the backlash is going to be among Tory voters when they start realizing that one of the outcomes is the potential for Layton as Prime Minister or a coalition led by him. For Tory voters that’s a scary proposition.

“It all comes down to turnout and getting those ballots in the box, and the Tories are pretty motivated,” said Bricker.

He said NDP support has not yet reached a point where it seriously threatens Conservative seats, but said that could change.

“I don’t think the last chapter on this has been written and this weekend is going to be extremely important,” he said. “Things are still moving.”

http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/decisioncanada/Against+odds+poised+finish+Election/4692315/story.html

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I just want to point out with the Royal wedding this was the last day anyone is going to hear anything about the Election until Election day. If Harper and Iggy didn't get their message across then it is over. If they didn't stop the NDP growth well it will continue. This was it, Custer's last stand.

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God damned socialist.... :lol:

Keep corp. tax rates below US is the NDP platform's way of spinning the plan to roll back the tax cuts. They are trying to imply that corp taxes will be decreased to the uneducated voter. It is an outright lie. Also the US corp tax rate is one of the least competitive anyway. Their economy hasn't exactly been very robust either.

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Oh well, sometimes we outsmart ourselves.

Harper’s Savaging of Canadian Liberals Helps NDP Rise, Imperiling Majority

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s quest for a majority in next week’s election is colliding with the rise of the New Democratic Party -- now the smallest in Parliament -- a rise Harper may have abetted through his savaging of Liberal opponent Michael Ignatieff, 63.

After attacking the Liberals during much of the five-week campaign, Harper, 51, has turned his focus this week to the NDP, which has surpassed the Liberals as the second-most-popular party, polls show. A minority government led by the NDP would be mean a “lot of destruction” for the Canadian economy, Harper said yesterday, reiterating his call for a majority Conservative government.

“They forgot that there were two opponents out there and not just one,” said Michael Behiels, a professor of political history at the University of Ottawa. By focusing on the Liberals, the Conservatives “gave a lot of traction to the NDP. It looks like it’s going to prevent Harper from gaining the majority.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-29/harper-savaging-of-liberals-helps-ndp-rise-imperiling-majority.html

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Keep corp. tax rates below US is the NDP platform's way of spinning the plan to roll back the tax cuts. They are trying to imply that corp taxes will be decreased to the uneducated voter.

That isn't what they're trying to do at all. I'm not sure why you would even see it that way.

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Here's some absolutely fantastic news for Layton's NDP.

Orange wave hits Quebec City - no Tory MP, Minister safe: Crop

NPD - 34%

Bloc - 27%

Cons - 27%

Libs - 10%

Sondage Crop-Le Soleil: vague néodémocrate sur la capitale nationale

La vague orange qui déferle sur le Québec est si forte qu'elle menace maintenant de balayer la capitale nationale, malgré sa réputation (plutôt méritée) de bastion de la droite. Aucun député conservateur, même ministre, n'y semble plus à l'abri, et pour tout dire, la victoire n'y est sûre pour absolument personne, d'après une série de sondages CROP-Le Soleil effectués dans les cinq circonscriptions de la ville et dans celle de Portneuf.

La firme a sondé 400 personnes par circonscription dans Québec, Beauport-Limoilou, Charlesbourg-Haute-Saint-Charles, Louis-Hébert, Louis-Saint-Laurent et Portneuf-Jacques-Cartier.

Pour l'ensemble des 2401 répondants, le Nouveau Parti démocratique mène avec 34 % des intentions de vote (après répartition des indécis), tandis que le Bloc québécois et le Parti conservateur se disputent chaudement le second rang, à 27 % chacun.

Si, par ailleurs, le Parti libéral pensait avoir atteint le fond du baril dans la région, ce coup de sonde viendra le détromper : les appuis des rouges, déjà maigres, ont trouvé le moyen de fondre encore pour passer sous les 10 %. Les verts ferment la marche à 3 %.

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/le-soleil/dossiers/elections-federales/201104/28/01-4394426-sondage-crop-le-soleil-vague-neodemocrate-sur-la-capitale-nationale.php

Oops sorry, put this in the wrong thread.

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Bye, bye Harper.

Confident Layton tours Tory ridings in B.C. as orange tide rolls on

Jack Layton will try to do a little poaching today, working a pair of Conservative-held ridings in British Columbia, where polls suggest NDP support is growing.

At a stage in the campaign where his predecessors would have been looking to shore up support on key NDP constituencies, Layton is on a foray into what once was enemy territory.

His schedule isn't that of a leader trying to hold on to seats; it's for someone looking to pick off new ones.

The growing orange tide shows no signs of ebbing in the final days of campaigning for Monday's election and Layton is trying to make the best of it. He will be in Kamloops in the British Columbia Interior and then in Courtenay on Vancouver Island.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jDJZLLmsjsMZp_iYtR48E-Qmc5BA?docId=6702480

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Now actually your wrong

Companies that have paying customers hire employees to provide services and fill orders.

Theres a name for them-consumers-you and me!

You have bein brainwashed buddy and this is not a case of the chicken and the egg!

Consumers drive the economy.If you do not know this it is because of one of three things:

1) Your ignorant

2) Your lying

3) Your brainwashed and you actually believe what you are saying!

WWWTT

"Shoes for Industry! Shoes for the Dead! Shoes for Industry!

Hi! I'm Joe Beets! What chance does a deceased returning war veteran have in today's a-go-go economy?

Well, first, take off your shoes!

Now, can't you see how increased spending opportunities means more work for everyone? And more of it, too!"

---Firesign Theater

Sorry. It's just that often when someone is spouting a particularly marxist political or economic theory - that they demand be taken as fact because THEY believe it! - it seems that a quote from either Firesign Theater or Monty Python is appropriate. :P

"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

-- George Bernard Shaw

"There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."

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Bye, bye Harper.

The growing orange tide shows no signs of ebbing in the final days of campaigning for Monday's election and Layton is trying to make the best of it. He will be in Kamloops in the British Columbia Interior and then in Courtenay on Vancouver Island.

I don't think the surge will end until people enter polling booths, many have already decided but the undecided have yet to do so...then there are the strategic voters who could switch from libs to ndp...and ndp to liberal...ABH

“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill

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Bye, bye Harper.

Confident Layton tours Tory ridings in B.C. as orange tide rolls on

Jack Layton will try to do a little poaching today, working a pair of Conservative-held ridings in British Columbia, where polls suggest NDP support is growing.

At a stage in the campaign where his predecessors would have been looking to shore up support on key NDP constituencies, Layton is on a foray into what once was enemy territory.

His schedule isn't that of a leader trying to hold on to seats; it's for someone looking to pick off new ones.

The growing orange tide shows no signs of ebbing in the final days of campaigning for Monday's election and Layton is trying to make the best of it. He will be in Kamloops in the British Columbia Interior and then in Courtenay on Vancouver Island.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jDJZLLmsjsMZp_iYtR48E-Qmc5BA?docId=6702480

There's some good evidence that there are some BC ridings, particularly on Vancouver Island, which are heavily at play. Some of these ridings have been Reform/Tory for the better part of two decades, so the Tories must be seriously pissing themselves.

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There's some good evidence that there are some BC ridings, particularly on Vancouver Island, which are heavily at play. Some of these ridings have been Reform/Tory for the better part of two decades, so the Tories must be seriously pissing themselves.

and polling seems to indicate the Greens(May) will win a seat from the conservative cabinet minister Gary Lunn....

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“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill

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here's a situation Harper must be really dreading...the conservatives win a minority, the regime falls very quickly and the NDP is handed control by the GG...conservative supporters like to think the NDP will screw up so badly they'll be out in no time...the problem with that is the NDP(and liberals if there is a coalition) will now have access to all the documents the conservatives have refused to hand over, the damage from those revelations could be significant to the conservatives chance of holding office again for quite some time...

“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill

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