bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) Under many different names. Black Panters (marching armed) The Panthers were not supremacists. There was a fringe element within the movement that were (arguably) supremacists. I already covered this point about fringe elements, which you must have overlooked. First Nation (with rights above all other races) First Nations are not a supremacist group who consider themselves racially superior to whites. Ask Judy Rebick. She'll explain to you why women have automatic RIGHT to house, car, children, and all money in each divorce. She's not a supremacist; and even if she were, I was responding to the "half the women's movement are supremacists" remark. So you agree with the remark...and you name Judy Rebick? Got nothing at all, eh? Edited April 7, 2011 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Saipan Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 The Panthers were not supremacists. There was a fringe element within the movement that were (arguably) supremacists First Nations are not a supremacist group who consider themselves racially superior to whites. She's not a supremacist 1) Da Nile 2) Da Nile 3) Da Nile Quote
cybercoma Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Whats racist about that? It's an organization purely devoted to race. It doesn't matter the ethnicity as long as someone's white. Oh, but then ask them about white Jews. "They're not white," you'll get. The point is that Whites have rights, but the rights of others have been restricted. Blacks, gays, women, the disabled, asking for equal rights, doesn't always have to do with race and more importantly is not about "special" privileges, but equality. Quote
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 1) Da Nile 2) Da Nile 3) Da Nile Non-responsive. (Repeat twice if you need to.) Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) Of course. You have no evidence. No evidence? Of what? I asked you for examples of Supremacist groups...and you made only claims, not explaining through logic, tortured or otherwise, why and how they were Supremacist groups. You avoid evidence, and then, strangely, accuse me of not having evidence? Edited April 7, 2011 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Saipan Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 I asked you for examples of Supremacist groups... Should I repost? For example, indians claims here are considered wildly racist in Europe. You just refused to see it as such. Same with Japanese society. Quote
Chippewa Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 But aside from occasional fringe elements of existing (non-supremacist) groups, can you name any--aside from self-termed "White Supremacists"--who actually were "supremacists"? Where are the "Women's Supremacist" groups? It would appear that Supremacist Groups mostly arise out of members of the historically dominant group who feel sidelined (and are often comprised of people who are sidelined--say, working-class, uneducated whites) from their own group, and have laid the blame elsewhere in a typical formulation. That's why the phenomenon of "Supremist" groups do tend to be white; it's not just a biased perception, it's real. It's not an inherent weakness of whites that others do not possess; it has to do with members of an historically powerful group feeling alienated as a subgroup, perhaps. I was wondering what happened to all those people living in trailor parks across the country. Quote Canada-- Just A Hotbed For Laundering First Nations Land and Resources
Chippewa Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Should I repost? For example, indians claims here are considered wildly racist in Europe. You just refused to see it as such. Same with Japanese society. You are saying the turban driving cab driving indians are racist in europe.. Whats racist about one person having a land deed saying they own the land, immigrants just laundered off for a profit. Quote Canada-- Just A Hotbed For Laundering First Nations Land and Resources
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) Should I repost? For example, indians claims here are considered wildly racist in Europe. You just refused to see it as such. Same with Japanese society. No, you need not repost, and revisit claims that carry no information. I"m asking for you to provide a cogent argument for your claims...not simply to make them. "First Nations" was one of your claims; now buttressed with a "considered wildly racist in Europe," claim, also unsubstantiated, and at any rate not comprising "evidence." First Nations are not a "supremacist group." That you don't like them doesn't change the facts. And we are not in Japan. We're talking about Supremacist groups. At any rate, even if you're right about Japan, it would still fall within my "dominant group" paradigm, wouldn't it? Edited April 7, 2011 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
kimmy Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 But aside from occasional fringe elements of existing (non-supremacist) groups, can you name any--aside from self-termed "White Supremacists"--who actually were "supremacists"? Read up on "melanin theory". -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
TheRightWing Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Live in Downtown Toronto. On the corner of a building one block up, a bunch of Black dudes post up 1-2 times a week and spout there "black supremacy" bullshit. They hold up signs of white people in chains and read from the bible. Don't understand how that works. There are supremacy groups all around us. For this particular candidate... He should have chosen a little wiser. I wasn't aware white people were under attack. Quote
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Read up on "melanin theory". -k Where are all these "Black Supremacist" groups in Canada? How many members do they have? Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
TheRightWing Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Where are all these "Black Supremacist" groups in Canada? How many members do they have? Well, I'm not sure about nationally but there's a fare few here in Toronto. They film their antics too, but I can't find their videos. I can film them myself next time if you prefer to see evidence, don't take my word for it Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 The Nation of Islam with the amazing Yakub who created 'white people' in a prehistoric laboratory. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Well, I'm not sure about nationally but there's a fare few here in Toronto. They film their antics too, but I can't find their videos. I can film them myself next time if you prefer to see evidence, don't take my word for it Well, if personal anecdotes are all that's required, I need go no further than my in-laws for "proof" of the rampant anti-Arab racism in Canada. I never said black supremacists (or any other kinds of supremacists) didn't exist; I'm saying they are a trivial fringe phenomenon. White supremacists are a fringe phenomenon as well, but a far larger one; plus, they benefit from so many people trying to say there's "just as much supremacism" coming from other quarters...a claim which certainly appears to be flatly untrue. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Saipan Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 I was wondering what happened to all those people living in trailor parks across the country. In Canada we spell it trailer. Why would anyone live in a trailer anyway? We keep it for boats and firewood only. Quote
TheRightWing Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Well, if personal anecdotes are all that's required, I need go no further than my in-laws for "proof" of the rampant anti-Arab racism in Canada. I never said black supremacists (or any other kinds of supremacists) didn't exist; I'm saying they are a trivial fringe phenomenon. White supremacists are a fringe phenomenon as well, but a far larger one; plus, they benefit from so many people trying to say there's "just as much supremacism" coming from other quarters...a claim which certainly appears to be flatly untrue. Misunderstanding between us I apologize. All these groups are of course fringe elements of course. But I'd say in Quebec especially and relevant to the OP, historically has not favoured immigrants, whether they're forcing companies to have french signs bigger then English signs, forcing public school immigrants to learn Francais, it doesn't surprise me in the least about this news. However. Having been to Quebec, I don't think they're ALL protective white supremacists, I just think the sentiment of "who we are suppose to be" is a little stronger there then perhaps the rest of the country (save Rural Texas, Oops I mean Alberta). Quote
Saipan Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Well, if personal anecdotes are all that's required, I need go no further than my in-laws for "proof" of the rampant anti-Arab racism in Canada. What race are Arabs? I never said black supremacists (or any other kinds of supremacists) didn't exist; I'm saying they are a trivial fringe phenomenon. They are all trivial. White supremacists are a fringe phenomenon as well, but a far larger one For some strange reason we have lot more white folks here. And in Africa (where they still have slavery) most are blacks. Not sure why. Quote
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Misunderstanding between us I apologize. All these groups are of course fringe elements of course. But I'd say in Quebec especially and relevant to the OP, historically has not favoured immigrants, whether they're forcing companies to have french signs bigger then English signs, forcing public school immigrants to learn Francais, it doesn't surprise me in the least about this news. However. Having been to Quebec, I don't think they're ALL protective white supremacists, I just think the sentiment of "who we are suppose to be" is a little stronger there then perhaps the rest of the country (save Rural Texas, Oops I mean Alberta). Yes, I will grant you a point about Quebec...the sign laws are especially bad (but quite amusing, at the same time.) Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 What race are Arabs? What race are women? Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
TheRightWing Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Yes, I will grant you a point about Quebec...the sign laws are especially bad (but quite amusing, at the same time.) Do they still actually do that btw? I thought that was an old policy they don't really care about anymore. Quote
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Who claimed women are race? I'm only expressing, in the most polite terms possible, the utter confusion of your arguments. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bloodyminded Posted April 7, 2011 Report Posted April 7, 2011 Do they still actually do that btw? I thought that was an old policy they don't really care about anymore. I really have no idea. Maybe it was laughed out of existence. Some people used to get pretty angry at old Mordecai Richler (a Montrealer) for endlessly mocking it in the national media. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
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