Federal Election Polls

[Guest Derek L]

It was actually to show that there are people trying to run a country clouding their mind and judgment with weed.

And I'm not for eliminating marijuana laws, but there's a whole bunch of other laws I'm for eliminating. The more laws, the bigger the gov't.

Whats the difference between Pot or Johnnie Walker "clouding" their judgement?

I'm all for decreasing the size of government, but we do need laws and government to enforce them, or we'd be only a few steps above apes flinging their poop at each other.

[Dave_ON]

Harper is way out front in ont and bc, jacks numbers are very concentrated, I still believe harper will still get a majority.

then you're utterly out of touch with reality, Harper is not way out in front in Ontario, he's failed to break into any of the urban centres which are fare more vote rich than rural Ontario, which is where most of their support derives from. It looks increasingly more likely that the few urban seats they squeaked by on in Ontario last election will be lost. The one in London west specifically is in danger.

I'm not certain what dream world a party that has no support in Quebec and at best tenuous support in Ontario is going to form a majority.

[Dave_ON]

I take what you're saying, TB. I'm just thinking out loud about how Layton could, if he were to become PM, handle senator appointments, as his party does not recognize the Senate.

His recognition of the Senate is utterly immaterial, the constitution recognizes it and that is the only recognician it needs. If he wants to abolish it, he needs to work within the constitution not try to get around it. This is the folly that Harper has failed to understand I would hope that Layton would have learned from Harper's mistakes.

[cybercoma]

His recognition of the Senate is utterly immaterial, the constitution recognizes it and that is the only recognician it needs. If he wants to abolish it, he needs to work within the constitution not try to get around it. This is the folly that Harper has failed to understand I would hope that Layton would have learned from Harper's mistakes.

That's nice.

I'm still curious what he would do as PM when faced with having to appoint a Senator. That's the question.

[ToadBrother]

That's nice.

I'm still curious what he would do as PM when faced with having to appoint a Senator. That's the question.

Hopefully the responsible thing and name one. He may object to the Senate's existence, but one does hope that a man who has been so critical of the Tories' willingness to try to skirt the constitution would recognize that he is as bound by it as anyone else.

Edited April 28, 2011 by ToadBrother

[nittanylionstorm07]

It was actually to show that there are people trying to run a country clouding their mind and judgment with weed.

And I'm not only for eliminating marijuana laws, but there's a whole bunch of other laws I'm for eliminating. The more laws, the bigger the gov't.

So people who drink alcohol shouldn't govern either, right?

[Bonam]

I'm in the really tiny minority then. I agree though, it is a tiny minority.

That makes two of us.

[Evening Star]

Hopefully the responsible thing and name one. He may object to the Senate's existence, but one does hope that a man who has been so critical of the Tories' willingness to try to skirt the constitution would recognize that he is as bound by it as anyone else.

For serious. If he really wanted to make a point, he could pick someone who's not a patronage appointment, who is held in general esteem for his accomplishments.

[cybercoma]

For serious. If he really wanted to make a point, he could pick someone who's not a patronage appointment, who is held in general esteem for his accomplishments.

or her

[ToadBrother]

For serious. If he really wanted to make a point, he could pick someone who's not a patronage appointment, who is held in general esteem for his accomplishments.

Like I said, it's really up to the Prime Minister who the Governor General puts in the Senate. The point is the one thing Layton cannot responsibly do is refuse to appoint anyone, ultimately forcing the Governor General's hand. And I don't think the GG naming someone to the Senate without the Government's advice is actually the constitutional solution at all. The Constitution makes it clear that the GG must appoint Senators based on the advice of the Government, so if the Government will not do its constitutional duty, the GG has but one route, to dismiss that Government and ask someone else to form a government who will then abide by the requirements of the Constitution.

Edited April 29, 2011 by ToadBrother

[punked]

Like I said, it's really up to the Prime Minister who the Governor General puts in the Senate. The point is the one thing Layton cannot responsibly do is refuse to appoint anyone, ultimately forcing the Governor General's hand. And I don't think the GG naming someone to the Senate without the Government's advice is actually the constitutional solution at all. The Constitution makes it clear that the GG must appoint Senators based on the advice of the Government, so if the Government will not do its constitutional duty, the GG has but one route, to dismiss that Government and ask someone else to form a government who will then abide by the requirements of the Constitution.

Layton can call a referendum on the Senate whenever he wants. Anyone who thinks a vote from the people of Canada is not binding because of some piece of paper doesn't get it. There are solutions.

[Smallc]

Anyone who thinks a vote from the people of Canada is not binding because of some piece of paper doesn't get it.

With that statement, it's quite clear that you don't get it.

[ToadBrother]

Layton can call a referendum on the Senate whenever he wants. Anyone who thinks a vote from the people of Canada is not binding because of some piece of paper doesn't get it. There are solutions.

And a referendum isn't one of them. In and of itself, the referendum cannot amend the constitution. It can certainly apply pressure to provincial governments, but in fact it could make things even worse. What happens if the referendum passes with a plurality, but a number of provinces refuse to sign, enough that the 2/3s-and-50% rule isn't triggered? Then your little democratic exercise has triggered a substantial crisis.

Our constitution cannot be amended by referendum. No matter how many ways you try to work this out, the constitution, which is the basic law of the land, gives us explicit amending formulas.

Why is it that you do not want the amending to be done the proper why? Why is it that you keep coming up with "solutions" that have the capacity and likelihood to create even greater crises.

We live in a land of law and order, not in some mobocracy where the majority can override the constitution at their whim. I'm hoping Layton is much more responsible than some of his supporters, but if you're suggesting this is what he will in fact do, then you will indeed help me a great deal in picking who to vote for.

If you want a referendum you will first have to negotiate with the provinces to assure that they abide by the will of the electorate of the entire country. That's what sunk Charlottetown.

Edited April 29, 2011 by ToadBrother

[Harry]

So much for some of those Conservative seats in Quebec.

Le vent souffle vers l'est pour le NPD

Porté par une vague de popularité sans précédent, le NPD pourrait mettre la main sur plusieurs sièges jugés imprenables dans la région de Québec au début de la campagne électorale il y a cinq semaines à peine.

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/elections-federales/201104/28/01-4394425-le-vent-souffle-vers-lest-pour-le-npd.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_lire_aussi_4394432_article_POS1

Edited April 29, 2011 by Harry

[Harry]

Most Recent polling:

Date / Pollster / Cons / NDP / LIbs / Bloc

Apr 29 / Nanos / 36.4% / 31.2% / 22.0% / 5.7% / NDP within 5.2% of first place

Apr 28 / Harris D / 35% / 30% / 22% / NDP within 5% of first place

Apr 28 / EKOS / 34.8% / 27.5% / 22.3% / 6.1%

Apr 28 / Nanos / 36.6% / 30.4% / 21.9% / 6.0% / NDP within 6.2% of first place

Apr 27 / EKOS / 34.0% / 28.1% / 22.9% / 6.6% / NDP within 5.9% of first place

Apr 27 / Forum / 34.0% / 31.0% / 22.0% / / NDP within 3% of first place

Apr 26 / Nanos / 37.8% / 27.8% / 22.9% / 5.8%

Apr 26 / Angus R / 35.0% / 30.0% / 22.0% / 5.0% / NDP within 5% of 1st place

Apr 25 / EKOS / 33.9% / 27.9% / 24.0% / 6.0%

Apr 24 / EKOS / 33.7% / 28.0% / 23.7% / 6.2%

Apr 24 / Nanos / 39.2% / 23.6% / 25.6% /

Apr 21 / Envi / 39.0% / 25.0% / 22.0% /

Apr 20 / Ipsos / 43.0% / 24.0% / 21.0% / 6.0%

Apr 16 / Angus R / 36.0% / 25.0% / 25.0% /

[Harry]

NDP still closing the gap.

Nanos Research Poll, 3 days ending Apr 28

Conservatives ahead by 5%

Cons - 36.4%, Down 0.2%

NDP - 31.2%, Up 0.8%

Libs - 22.0%, Up 0.1%

Bloc - 5.7%, Down 0.3%

Grn - 4.0%, Down 0.1%

Und - 15.0%, Down 0.8%

http://www.nanosresearch.com/election2011/20110428-BallotE.pdf

[davejack]

I wish voters would step back and remember history before voting. Harper? Cold and aloof, calculating. Seems like a very smart man, advised banks to tighten their rules because he saw the world recession coming. I have my choice of jobs, and the lowest taxes I can remember. I seem to remember him saying that Canada should have went to Iraq, against 65% of Canadians wishes, I also don't think we should be wasting money on drug enforcement. Ignateff? Who is this guy? Comes from Harvard where he preaches to the people who put the World in a recession, and leads the party that throws money away on sponsorship scandals, taxes to pay for unions and champagne parties, that is liberal. Don't give easteners job opportunities, just extend E.I. times to keep them living and under their thumb. Layton???? What a joke, 8% voted for him, but only 45% voted conservative, so lets start a coalition with the Bloc (Who won't even sing the anthem, yeah real Canadians) and take over the Gov. Sure students, you'll get all the free schooling you want, but make sure you take nursing or teaching, because the NDP will kill all other businesses. Vote for low taxes, and keep our economy strong, do Not rely on the Gov. for your retirement.

[cybercoma]

I think what you mean is that you wish voters would step back and think the way you do. Sorry, bud.

[Harry]

Here's some absolutely fantastic news for Layton's NDP.

Orange wave hits Quebec City - no Tory MP, Minister safe: Crop

NPD - 34%

Bloc - 27%

Cons - 27%

Libs - 10%

Quote

Sondage Crop-Le Soleil: vague néodémocrate sur la capitale nationale

La vague orange qui déferle sur le Québec est si forte qu'elle menace maintenant de balayer la capitale nationale, malgré sa réputation (plutôt méritée) de bastion de la droite. Aucun député conservateur, même ministre, n'y semble plus à l'abri, et pour tout dire, la victoire n'y est sûre pour absolument personne, d'après une série de sondages CROP-Le Soleil effectués dans les cinq circonscriptions de la ville et dans celle de Portneuf.

La firme a sondé 400 personnes par circonscription dans Québec, Beauport-Limoilou, Charlesbourg-Haute-Saint-Charles, Louis-Hébert, Louis-Saint-Laurent et Portneuf-Jacques-Cartier.

Pour l'ensemble des 2401 répondants, le Nouveau Parti démocratique mène avec 34 % des intentions de vote (après répartition des indécis), tandis que le Bloc québécois et le Parti conservateur se disputent chaudement le second rang, à 27 % chacun.

Si, par ailleurs, le Parti libéral pensait avoir atteint le fond du baril dans la région, ce coup de sonde viendra le détromper : les appuis des rouges, déjà maigres, ont trouvé le moyen de fondre encore pour passer sous les 10 %. Les verts ferment la marche à 3 %.

http://www.cyberpres...e-nationale.php

Edited April 29, 2011 by Harry

[Harry]

EKOS

NDP just jumped 2.5% on the Cons overnite

Cons - 34.5%, Down 0.3%

NDP - 29.7%, up 2.2%

Libs - 20%, Down 2.3%

Bloc - 6.3%

NDP still closing on Conservatives; Liberal declines continue:

http://ipolitics.ca/2011/04/29/ndp-still-closing-on-conservatives-liberal-declines-continue/

Edited April 29, 2011 by Harry

[nittanylionstorm07]

EKOS

Cons - 34.5%

NDP - 29.7%

Libs - 20%

Bloc - 6.3%

NDP still closing on Conservatives; Liberal declines continue:

http://ipolitics.ca/2011/04/29/ndp-still-closing-on-conservatives-liberal-declines-continue/

Looks like yesterday's polling was indeed a blip down.

Also lol @ the Liberals.

Edited April 29, 2011 by nittanylionstorm07

[Harry]

Most Recent polling:

Date / Pollster / Cons / NDP / LIbs / Bloc

Apr 29 / EKOS / 34.5% / 29.7% / 20.0% / 6.3% / NDP withing 4.8% of first place

Apr 29 / Nanos / 36.4% / 31.2% / 22.0% / 5.7% / NDP within 5.2% of first place

Apr 28 / Harris D / 35.0% / 30.0% / 22.0% / NDP within 5% of first place

Apr 28 / EKOS / 34.8% / 27.5% / 22.3% / 6.1%

Apr 28 / Nanos / 36.6% / 30.4% / 21.9% / 6.0% / NDP within 6.2% of first place

Apr 27 / EKOS / 34.0% / 28.1% / 22.9% / 6.6% / NDP within 5.9% of first place

Apr 27 / Forum / 34.0% / 31.0% / 22.0% / / NDP within 3% of first place

Apr 26 / Nanos / 37.8% / 27.8% / 22.9% / 5.8%

Apr 26 / Angus R / 35.0% / 30.0% / 22.0% / 5.0% / NDP within 5% of 1st place

Apr 25 / EKOS / 33.9% / 27.9% / 24.0% / 6.0%

Apr 24 / EKOS / 33.7% / 28.0% / 23.7% / 6.2%

Apr 24 / Nanos / 39.2% / 23.6% / 25.6% /

Apr 21 / Envi / 39.0% / 25.0% / 22.0% /

Apr 20 / Ipsos / 43.0% / 24.0% / 21.0% / 6.0%

Apr 16 / Angus R / 36.0% / 25.0% / 25.0% /

[cybercoma]

People better seriously start reconsidering their "ABH" choice, if that's their thing.

[nittanylionstorm07]

This is EKOS

Wow look at the committed voters only:

National federal vote intention

(committed voters only):

35.5% CPC

30.6% NDP

19.9% LPC

5.8% Green

6.1% BQ

1.9% other

BC 36.3 CPC/30.5 NDP/15.3 LPC

AB 57.2 CPC/19.5 NDP

SM 47.2 CPC/25.7 NDP/16.8 LPC

ON 38.9 CPC/26.2 NDP/26.6 LPC

QC 13.6 CPC/39.6 NDP/13.0 LPC/26.2 BQ

AC 32.2 CPC/32.2 NDP/29.3 LPC

These are amazing.

Edited April 29, 2011 by nittanylionstorm07

[cybercoma]

Not that amazing. The Ontario numbers are still troublesome.