GWiz Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Posted March 21, 2011 Your posts are so full of BS you don't need to follow the party hype. The opening post of this thread was by far and away the dumbest part of it. One more TIME... When trolling you will never catch anything using an empty hook... To catch something when trolling you need a good spinner bait... My personal favorite is the triple hooked Red Devil, it's particularly effective for Pike and Walleye... Walleye are good eats while Pike aren't, way too boney for my liking... On the other hand Pike put up a much better fight and are therefore more fun to catch... Have a nice day... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
madmax Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 As for me I ignore all that hype and BS provided by the parties, media hype and polls, as well as political ads and concentrate solely on the facts I garner to make my dicisions... Actually you buy into Liberal Spin and repeat it. And you do not "Ignore" the polls. Not 72 hours ago you were posting the NDP had to make a deal because they were at 14% and going to lose seats. Next Poll has the NDP at 20%. Now you don't believe polls. The Cons were at 43% and now they are at 38% and you don't believe the hype of the polls. We are going to have an election to find out if the polls were right Quote
madmax Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 One more TIME... When trolling you will never catch anything using an empty hook... MoonBox is anything but a Troll.... Quote
Smallc Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) The corporate tax cuts, however, that IS something that every Canadian really understands and can relate to. With the largest deficits in history, what possible justification is there for corporate tax reductions when our rates are already considered pretty low?? Over 100k jobs by some estimates. The deficits are shrinking faster than the government predicted, and Canada isn't doing badly at all. Compared to most of the world, we're doing excellent. There's very little that the opposition can do against the government on the economic front. Edited March 21, 2011 by Smallc Quote
GWiz Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Posted March 21, 2011 Actually you buy into Liberal Spin and repeat it. And you do not "Ignore" the polls. Not 72 hours ago you were posting the NDP had to make a deal because they were at 14% and going to lose seats. Next Poll has the NDP at 20%. Now you don't believe polls. The Cons were at 43% and now they are at 38% and you don't believe the hype of the polls. We are going to have an election to find out if the polls were right What I wonder about today is why the NDP didn't hammer the CONS in question period and instead were talking about Japan and Libya... Kinda strange don't you think all things considered? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
GWiz Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Posted March 21, 2011 MoonBox is anything but a Troll.... Really? I sure couldn't tell that from that post... As to what moonbox is, I'm sure you'd know much better than I do... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Saipan Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 CPC & NDP really worried about an election now Yes, they worry Ignatief will be the Prime Minister, not Layton. Quote
GWiz Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Posted March 21, 2011 CPC & NDP really worried about an election now Yes, they worry Ignatief will be the Prime Minister, not Layton. Cool! Welcome aboard... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
wyly Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) The prisons are something that are easier to justify and explain. The 'tough on crime' stance is something that wins a lot of politicians elections. That's the last issue you'd want to make a campaign about. it is when they're hiding the cost of the "tough on crime" people will want to know why their healthcare system is under financial pressure and we're getting tough on crime while crime rates are falling...tough on crime plays to the misinformed, it's a phony knee jerk issue...The aircraft...yeah you could spin it...but the fact is that the CF-18's need to be replaced and the fact that there wasn't a bidding process isn't going to win over a lot of minds.when 9 billion becomes 13 billion, then 30 billion...lying about the true cost will become an issue...when wait times become longer at your local ER and the shortage of MDs becomes more acute the harper regime will point to socialized healthcare as the cause not the bottomless money pit called F35...The corporate tax cuts, however, that IS something that every Canadian really understands and can relate to. With the largest deficits in history, what possible justification is there for corporate tax reductions when our rates are already considered pretty low?? I'm sure you can come up with BS reasons, but are there any that actually make sense?as it relates to the first two issues it makes a lot of sense, corporate millionaires in other countries make millions more while the middle class picks up the tab and gives up social services in cut backs and neglect...all of which comes back to the budget, how do you pass a budget when the government hides the true cost of the expenses, obviously it has two sets of books The income disparity in Canada is higher than ever. The middle and upper middle class are vanishing and we're considering corporate tax cuts? Wtf are they thinking?thanks to the CPC harper regime... Edited March 22, 2011 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Wild Bill Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 I'm in with the girlfriend idea...Minister of Anything as long as she stands up a lot in the house for question period... As an MP, wouldn't she make a magnificent orator in the House? Considering that balcony... Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
GWiz Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Posted March 21, 2011 it is when they're hiding the cost of the "tough on crime" people will want to know why their healthcare system is under financial pressure and we're getting tough on crime while crime rates are falling...tough on crime plays to the misinformed, it's a phony knee jerk issue... when 9 billion becomes 13 billion, then 30 billion...lying about the true cost will become an issue...when wait times become longer at your local ER and the shortage of MDs becomes more acute the harper regime will point to socialized healthcare as the cause not the bottom less money pit called F35... as it relates to the first two issues it makes a lot of sense, corporate millionaires in other countries make millions more while the middle class picks up the tab and gives up social services in cut backs and neglect... all of which comes back to the budget, how do you pass a budget when the government hides the true cost of the expenses, obviously it has two sets of books thanks to the CPC harper regime... You'd think with all that plus all the scandals the Harper Regime would be toast and that no "opposition party" could possibly back the Harper Regime in any way shape or form... BUT, we're talking about Canada, Canada's apathetic, uninformed, and at TIMES extremely stupid public, a controversy wanting right leaning media, plus a somewhat flawed political system and the NDP willing to do anything to win a meaningless extra seat or take "credit" for something (anything), so who knows what will happen... I certainly don't... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
GWiz Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Posted March 21, 2011 Budget to meet two of four NDP demands Nuff said? It could sure explain the NDP in the house today... Will we all know the answers by Friday? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Shakeyhands Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Budget to meet two of four NDP demands Nuff said? It could sure explain the NDP in the house today... Will we all know the answers by Friday? Good jesus... Layton will fold for that????? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
nicky10013 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Good jesus... Layton will fold for that????? Didn't you figure it out already? When he caves, he's "getting stuff done for Canadians." When he has the Liberals to cover his ass, "he's standing up for his ideal." The greatest thing Jack has is the fact that his base actually buys that two step. Quote
Saipan Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 when 9 billion becomes 13 billion, then 30 billion...lying about the true cost will become an issue... Then Liberals can never ever run federal government. They lied about 1000% cost increased. Quote
Club Soda Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 BOttom line, the grits have been in the hole for the last 6 years. NDP has never formed govt. The only possible outcome is that the tories win another govt, weather it is a minority or majority. Quote
GWiz Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 Good jesus... Layton will fold for that????? It's all in the "code"... - "On Monday afternoon, NDP leader Jack Layton remained coy as to whether he could vote for a budget that includes some – but not all – of what his party wants. “We said we want to see very significant help for seniors with the doubling of the Canada Pension plan and improvement of the GIS very significantly to lift all seniors out of poverty,” he said. “We want to see a major retrofit program and the ... federal tax taken off home heating. It’s just simply an unfair tax on people. We need a very significant expansion of doctors and nurses to do family medicine because we’re thousands of personnel short and that’s why we have five million Canadians without family medicine." - As Layton tries to take credit for these Liberal initiatives that were in place prior to the NDP bringing down the Martin Liberal Government and installing the Harper Regime twice, it'll be interesting to see how Layton plays this out... Then there's the Harper Regime's corruption aspect, which would put BOTH the Liberals and the NDP in a better place than defeating the Harper Budget, perhaps there will be some NDPers "ill" for that vote? An interesting week this week, and maybe next week, for sure... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
GWiz Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 Friday to Today > All eyes on Layton ahead of budget "The fate of the 40th Parliament is in Jack Layton’s hands. - The Conservatives will pepper Tuesday’s budget with spending on NDP priorities, such as home-retrofit incentives, help for seniors and more doctors for rural Canada – but it will be Mr. Layton and his 35 New Democratic Party MPs who will decide whether to declare victory or dismiss the Harper government’s offerings as an insincere fig leaf." - Quebec’s $2.2-billion beef with Ottawa - "Tuesday’s federal budget is not expected to resolve what has become a $2.2-billion irritant between Quebec and Ottawa. The dispute involves compensation to Quebec for the 1992 harmonization of the provincial sales tax with the federal GST. Provincial Finance Minister Raymond Bachand said recently he’d be surprised to hear Ottawa commit itself to resolving the issue in the budget." - Ottawa earmarks millions for Quebec bridge - "The Harper government has announced $158-million to fix a crumbling bridge in Montreal that experts say should be replaced, the second multimillion-dollar federal funding pledge in Quebec this week. News of the cash injection was delivered by Conservative Senator Larry Smith, the former CFL commissioner who is viewed as one of the Tory’s hopes for gaining a seat for the party in Montreal." - $21.6-million for Quebec City’s airport? So much for restraint - "There’s an old joke in Quebec that, if someone in Quebec City dies and goes to heaven, he or she has to change planes in Montreal. The joke speaks to the obvious: Montreal is the economic and transportation fulcrum of the province, especially for air travel. It’s closer to the U.S. border, closer to North America’s population centres and, of course, has a population many times greater than Quebec City’s." - Why we’re headed for an election we don’t need - "The Conservatives insist they don’t want an election but act as if they do by papering the country with announcements and attack ads. They think they’ll win with a majority that would leave them in office for four years, or with a minority that would leave them there quite likely for another three. So it’s a win-win for the Conservatives, who have many more safe seats than their adversaries, the impression of a strong economy in their favour, an immovable core of 35 per cent of the voters, and a targeted strategy for suburban ridings built around dumb policies but powerful slogans such as “tough on crime.” The Conservatives would have to run a horrible campaign to lose." - As I said before, starting tomorrow it's gonna get interesting and Harper is still trying hard right up to the last minute to blow his chances... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
wyly Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 As an MP, wouldn't she make a magnificent orator in the House? Considering that balcony... how about Speaker of the House Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
GWiz Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 how about Speaker of the House Hey, does Mrs. wyly know you think like this? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
madmax Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 Really? I sure couldn't tell that from that post... Moonbox is not a hack such as yourself. You drool over everything Liberal. Moonbox to me, from reading his posts, represents the traditional Canadian Mindset, as does Wild Bill, Kimmy, and many others on here. Other posters are simply partizan hacks, such as yourself, Scribblet, Punked, Mr. Canada etc. And what you will find is that even us who like to poke fun with our Politics, like M Dancer, have problems accepting the posts of rabid syrupy partizan hacks. Thus its people such as you, who turn off people like Moonbox, who, from what I can read, is fiscally reponsible, fairly Liberal socially, and has many times agreed with or stated NDP positions unknowingly although he would never vote for such a party. But he is a well thought out non partizan swing voter. You have come on here and posted thousands of self righteous and incorrect and often contradictory syrupy posts of all things Liberal. Moonbox has been posting for years and has a track record that is solid. Only a fool like you would overlook his posts regarding Corporate Tax cuts, (and this coming from someone with an understanding of the corporate world) and attack him, simply because he doesn't agree with you or your attitude. You can be a Liberal or a Conservative or a New Democrat, but you don't have to be annoying. Or you can be Annoying like M.Dancer, but at least he is funny. NOT I take the Oda defence should this post violate any forum rules Quote
GWiz Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 Moonbox is not a hack such as yourself. You drool over everything Liberal. Moonbox to me, from reading his posts, represents the traditional Canadian Mindset, as does Wild Bill, Kimmy, and many others on here. Other posters are simply partizan hacks, such as yourself, Scribblet, Punked, Mr. Canada etc. And what you will find is that even us who like to poke fun with our Politics, like M Dancer, have problems accepting the posts of rabid syrupy partizan hacks. Thus its people such as you, who turn off people like Moonbox, who, from what I can read, is fiscally reponsible, fairly Liberal socially, and has many times agreed with or stated NDP positions unknowingly although he would never vote for such a party. But he is a well thought out non partizan swing voter. You have come on here and posted thousands of self righteous and incorrect and often contradictory syrupy posts of all things Liberal. Moonbox has been posting for years and has a track record that is solid. Only a fool like you would overlook his posts regarding Corporate Tax cuts, (and this coming from someone with an understanding of the corporate world) and attack him, simply because he doesn't agree with you or your attitude. You can be a Liberal or a Conservative or a New Democrat, but you don't have to be annoying. Or you can be Annoying like M.Dancer, but at least he is funny. NOT I take the Oda defence should this post violate any forum rules Now you see, you've obviously learned a lot from from my teaching you how to troll... This is much better, a little bait helps, doesn't it? Flavoured bait with lots of personal attacks, especially on other people than the poster himself is especially interesting, although I'm not sure how effective it is... I guess the only part that escapes me completely is your defending another poster, who in my opinion, and obviously yours as well, is certainly able to speak for himself... How you form your opinions, knowing nothing about me, also escapes me, but then I'm a "to each their own" kinda guy, so feel free to rant away to your hearts content when you troll... The last line was cute and almost made me laugh, so your effort wasn't a complete waste... With a little practice in trolling you just may get good at it now that you've learned that you need bait... Try a Red Devil next TIME to get a better result... Have a nice day... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
GWiz Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 Harper's still trying to lose an election, if the NDP will let him... This courtesy of Topaz finding it > Conservative riding president quits Whodda thunk that the old Helena Guergis situation would come back to haunt Harper at this point in TIME... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
ToadBrother Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 Harper's still trying to lose an election, if the NDP will let him... This courtesy of Topaz finding it > Conservative riding president quits Whodda thunk that the old Helena Guergis situation would come back to haunt Harper at this point in TIME... It's one riding. Quote
GWiz Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 It's one riding. Yup, that's how every election is won or lost... One riding at a TIME... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
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