Anti-Muslim Protesters in OC

[Sir Bandelot]

So why would "they" protect Muslims from "genocide" in Kosovo? Your theory doesn't add up.

"They" are only one faction, not in complete power. But they do have some political influence. Hence the congressional hearing.

The hearing itself isn't necessarily a wrong idea, if it focuses on the problem of internal radicalization from external influences. The danger I'm talking about lies in how its message will be received a by less-than-knowledgeable public who only understand things in terms of black and white. To these people, any man wearing a turban or any woman wearing a veil, is an enemy of freedom. Because we have become a fascist society, symbolism is everything. It's the face, not the content below (that requires learning, takes time and patience). The equation is too complex for the modern media hyperstimulated masses. Much simpler to get it, as a certain well known president once said, "you're either with us, or you're with..."

[bush_cheney2004]

"They" are only one faction, not in complete power. But they do have some political influence. Hence the congressional hearing.

Oh...so "they" have yet to pull off this putsch?

The hearing itself isn't necessarily a wrong idea, if it focuses on the problem of internal radicalization from external influences. The danger I'm talking about lies in how its message will be received a by less-than-knowledgeable public who only understand things in terms of black and white. To these people, any man wearing a turban or any woman wearing a veil, is an enemy of freedom.

You mean like this man in a turban?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-518585/Obama-turban-Barack-accuses-Hillary-smear-campaign-circulating-photos-dressed-Muslim.html

He is now President of the United States. Gee, I wonder how he fooled all those voters?

Because we have become a fascist society, symbolism is everything. It's the face, not the content below (that requires learning, takes time and patience). The equation is too complex for the modern media hyperstimulated masses. Much simpler to get it, as a certain well known president once said, "you're either with us, or you're with..."

Nonsense...modern media thrives on such nuance. Simpler is boring.

Edited March 7, 2011 by bush_cheney2004

[jbg]

It's true that there were two highly controversial attendees; but clearly, they weren't the only "point behind the protest."

The bigotry and lunacy is self-evident.

Was it bigotry to call attention to Amir Abdel Malik Ali, who appeared at this Orange County event?

Hundreds protest Muslim fundraiser for women's shelters, homeless

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On February 13th, 2011, a Muslim relief organization, the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA Relief), held a dinner event at the Yorba Linda Community Center in Orange County, California. The event was held by two controversial speakers: Imam Siraj Wahhaj, a New York cleric, and Amir Abdel Malik Ali, who was accused of displaying anti-American and anti-Semitic views.

Edited March 7, 2011 by jbg

[DogOnPorch]

I'm sure it is... to a white man

(high fives BC-2004)

[bush_cheney2004]

(high fives BC-2004)

Down low....up high!

[Sir Bandelot]

(high fives BC-2004)

Yeah yeah. I already know he's not one. In fact I have known him for a long time now, in various incarnations of my user ID. Even on other forums. And I know you from there as well. It does not matter to me.

You guys were lickin each other, even in those days hahahah

[GostHacked]

When you have actual evidence that 2001 USA is similar to 1933 Germany, let me know.

Maybe not 2001, but 2010 was a good start. The TSA body scanners and VIPR checkpoints are a pretty good example. Papers please.

[CANADIEN]

Maybe not 2001, but 2010 was a good start. The TSA body scanners and VIPR checkpoints are a pretty good example. Papers please.

LOL touché about the date. That being said, the level of infringement on personal rights you mention it is not to the scale of what took place in Germany.

[GostHacked]

LOL touché about the date. That being said, the level of infringement on personal rights you mention it is not to the scale of what took place in Germany.

Not yet. But there are similarities, how much freedom will people willingly give up for a sense of security? How much have you seen already? It did not happen overnight in Germany, same thing in the USA, it's a slow an gradual process. To get you used to the idea that giving up your rights and freedoms are necessary for security. Then one day you wonder, 'how the hell did we get to this stage??!?!' ......

[Guest American Woman]

GostHacked, on 07 March 2011 - 08:18 AM, said: Maybe not 2001, but 2010 was a good start. The TSA body scanners and VIPR checkpoints are a pretty good example. Papers please.

LOL touché about the date. That being said, the level of infringement on personal rights you mention it is not to the scale of what took place in Germany.

Not even close. That there are people who would compare the two is positively mind boggling -- and I would wager that the ones with such a mindset are the ones living in the smallest world. I'll never understand the big deal about having to go through security before getting on a plane. For one thing, it's not a "right" to travel by plane, so if someone doesn't like it, they can find another method of getting where they want to go. But who is the security for? It's for the people getting on the plane. The very people being subjected to security. I always say "thank you" to the security people after going through; after all, they're not getting on the plane. I am. They're doing it for me and for everyone else getting on that plane. Making sure I'm safe is hardly infringing on my rights.

The views expressed here are sometimes so far out there that all one can do is roll their eyes.