CANADIEN Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 I meant the remarks of the people in question, so I should have stated it as such; they weren't hurled at the men, women, and children. That there were a small number of people doing it is, unfortunately, the norm; there's a small number of people who act out on every side of every issue. That in itself wouldn't have been 'big news.' So in effect, it's the doctoring and the splicing that has everyone worked up. It's the fact that it's been presented as something it's not that has has turned it into a media event. If a small group of Muslims had hurled similar words, I doubt you'd be making it into what you are making this event into, and if non-Muslims had doctored the event to make it into something it was not, I'm guessing that's what you'd be on about, not the behavior of the few. And rightfully so. It's wrong no matter who/which side is doing it but it is, as I said, an effective means of getting attention and getting people riled up. If I saw a video of a group of Muslims doing what those morons in the video did, I would think of them as a group of morons. That the video was very possibly doctored in a way that made the words of three elected officials sound different from what they actually say is a serious issues. If their words were misrepresentated in such a way, then apologies to them are in order. But this should not detract from one fondamental fact. A bunch of idiots were caught in action. Quote
bloodyminded Posted March 6, 2011 Author Report Posted March 6, 2011 (edited) I meant the remarks of the people in question, so I should have stated it as such; they weren't hurled at the men, women, and children. That there were a small number of people doing it is, unfortunately, the norm; there's a small number of people who act out on every side of every issue. That in itself wouldn't have been 'big news.' So in effect, it's the doctoring and the splicing that has everyone worked up. It's the fact that it's been presented as something it's not that has has turned it into a media event. If a small group of Muslims had hurled similar words, I doubt you'd be making it into what you are making this event into, and if non-Muslims had doctored the event to make it into something it was not, I'm guessing that's what you'd be on about, not the behavior of the few. And rightfully so. It's wrong no matter who/which side is doing it but it is, as I said, an effective means of getting attention and getting people riled up. First of all, I posted the video explicitly because of the words of the crazies; I had no interest at all in the remarks of the politicians. I think I made this clear enough in my remarks to Michael. I do agree the video is, as far as we know so far, quite blatantly unfair. To the politicians. Not to the people exposed as hateful cowards. As for the rest, you can speculate about what I would or wouldn't do in a given situation, but it remains useless speculation. If I'm especially one-sided in a political sense (which is plainly your meaning), I consider that interesting food for thought, but cannot see how that differentiates me from anyone else here; certainly including yourself. Edited March 6, 2011 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
DogOnPorch Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 It's the thin end of the wedge. To say a congressional hearing is akin to Nazi Germany's Final Solution to the Jewish 'problem' is quite insane. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 To say a congressional hearing is akin to Nazi Germany's Final Solution to the Jewish 'problem' is quite insane. And quite ignorant considering actual internments in Norte America....funny how they always skip that and head straight for "Nazi Germany" instead. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 And quite ignorant considering actual internments in Norte America....funny how they always skip that and head straight for "Nazi Germany" instead. Everything one doesn't like seems to have a connection to Nazi Germany these days...oh...unless it is actually connected to Nazi Germany. Then it's not... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Sir Bandelot Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Everything one doesn't like seems to have a connection to Nazi Germany these days...oh...unless it is actually connected to Nazi Germany. Then it's not... Tell you what, when you two snuggly bugs can stop high-fiving each other over every issue we might get to the matter at hand. Forget what the congressman says. It's not about that, it's about the sybolism in the mind of the American public. Oh lookee, we have a muslim problem. What shall we do what shall we do Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Tell you what, when you two snuggly bugs can stop high-fiving each other over every issue we might get to the matter at hand. Dude...the comparison was laughable...great laughs always deserve a "high-five". Forget what the congressman says. It's not about that, it's about the sybolism in the mind of the American public. Oh lookee, we have a muslim problem. What shall we do what shall we do The Americans will do what they have always done...that's why there is a First (and Second) Amendment to their constitution. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CANADIEN Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Tell you what, when you two snuggly bugs can stop high-fiving each other over every issue we might get to the matter at hand. Forget what the congressman says. It's not about that, it's about the sybolism in the mind of the American public. Oh lookee, we have a muslim problem. What shall we do what shall we do The comparison you made is still absurd. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 The comparison you made is still absurd. I'm sure it is... to a white man Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Dude...the comparison was laughable... Fine, I can accept that. At least you get it. Anyone who's serious about what I post in a non serious way, sorry that you've taken it so hard. But woe betide ye... sometimes my jokes hae a dark side. Because the radical whites, whose numbers are on the rise will see it that way. A conference about the muslim question... Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 I'm sure it is... to a white man And to anyone who actually understand what took place in Nazi Germany. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 And to anyone who actually understand what took place in Nazi Germany. Then if you "actually understand what took place in Nazi Germany", you will see the potential warning signs of what is taking place in our world, right now. Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Then if you "actually understand what took place in Nazi Germany", you will see the potential warning signs of what is taking place in our world, right now. We are actually quite a bit away from Tea Party Storm troopers leading Muslim children into gas chambers. The dangers posed by bigots if not confronted is bad enough - there is no need for over the top rhetorics. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 ....The dangers posed by bigots if not confronted is bad enough - there is no need for over the top rhetorics. What is the danger? Mohammad cartoons? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Free speech is free speech, but if people using the free speech promoting hate speech, did half as much to promote unity, we'd be much better off. What the protesters did, solves nothing, and resolves nothing. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 The dangers posed by bigots if not confronted is bad enough - there is no need for over the top rhetorics. Yes, I'm quite sure they were having similar conversations like this in 1933. All it takes now is for one more thing to trip the switch. Just one more. See reichstag fire Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Yes, I'm quite sure they were having similar conversations like this in 1933. All it takes now is for one more thing to trip the switch. Just one more. See reichstag fire When you have actual evidence that 2001 USA is similar to 1933 Germany, let me know. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Yes, I'm quite sure they were having similar conversations like this in 1933. All it takes now is for one more thing to trip the switch. Just one more. See reichstag fire You mean 9/11 wasn't enough? We have to have another inside job? Damn! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Sir Bandelot Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 When you have actual evidence that 2001 USA is similar to 1933 Germany, let me know. Sure, not a problem. Iraq, Afghanstan, Abu Graib, Guantanamo. But they are doing it "softly", hence the thin end of the wedge. Example, "homeland" security, not "fatherland"... Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 When you have actual evidence that 2001 USA is similar to 1933 Germany, let me know. Where have you been for the last ten years? Are you in Winnipeg? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Sure, not a problem. Iraq, Afghanstan, Abu Graib, Guantanamo. But they are doing it "softly", hence the thin end of the wedge. Example, "homeland" security, not "fatherland"... So why would "they" protect Muslims from "genocide" in Kosovo? Your theory doesn't add up. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Sure, not a problem. Iraq, Afghanstan, Abu Graib, Guantanamo. But they are doing it "softly", hence the thin end of the wedge. Example, "homeland" security, not "fatherland"... I'm sure people were lining up trying to get into Nazi Germany the way they line up at American embassies trying to get visas, too. Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Sure, not a problem. Iraq, Afghanstan, Abu Graib, Guantanamo. But they are doing it "softly", hence the thin end of the wedge. Example, "homeland" security, not "fatherland"... Neither of which are even close to Auswitch, treblinka, Majanek, as bad as they actually are. Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Where have you been for the last ten years? Are you in Winnipeg? Nope. Toronto. Quote
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