August1991 Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) How does your neoliberal ethos stop the standard of living from falling here,while increasing shareholder value by setting up shop in low standard of living jurisdictions in other places?JW, I just think that if a computer named Watson can replace my job, the world is a better place. You seem to call this "shareholder value" or "neoliberal ethos". I think that it should be called "improving life".Jack, how many jobs were lost when someone invented the wheel? Or how many chefs lost work because of microwave ovens? How many Americans lost their jobs because Chinese workers manufacture microwave ovens? Free trade and technology make the world a better place. Heck, I'm sending this message to you via this "Interweb thing". (How many telephone/telegraph operators lost their jobs?) --- Jack Weber, you're a Luddite. Like Karl Marx, you foolishly attempt to defend "victims" against trade and technology. Edited March 9, 2011 by August1991 Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) JW, I just think that if a computer named Watson can replace my job, the world is a better place. You seem to call this "shareholder value" or "neoliberal ethos". I think that it should be called "improving life". Jack, how many jobs were lost when someone invented the wheel? Or how many chefs lost work because of microwave ovens? How many Americans lost their jobs because Chinese workers manufacture microwave ovens? Free trade and technology make the world a better place. Heck, I'm sending this message to you via this "Interweb thing". (How many telephone/telegraph operators lost their jobs?) --- Jack Weber, you're a Luddite. Like Karl Marx, you foolishly attempt to defend "victims" against trade and technology. And August... You are a pseudointellectual free market fool who dresses up his foolishness as "freedom" because he has to... You are a "useful idiot" of those who benefit from the ecomonic redistribution excercise you endorse... Enjoy the economic death spiral "McJobs" you call "freedom"... And the very best you've got,August,is to blindly blame,"The Left!!!!The Left!!!" I think this,for all your pretentious verbosity,exposes you for what you really are... By the way...Could you elucidate for me,and everyone else, my "Marxism" for me?? Because I have never in my life advocated for a state run economic system... Edited March 9, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
August1991 Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) Enjoy the economic death spiral "McJobs" you call "freedom"... McJobs? There are no horse traders in Montreal, and very few people use pay phones. Videotron is closing its DVD rental shops. And newsprint sales are down too. Jack, is this an "economic death spiral"?If technology/computers/Watson replaces workers and causes unemployment, is that a bad thing? If "cheap labour" abroad replaces workers and causes unemployment, is that a bad thing? Work is not the purpose of life... The purpose of life is to live - it is to consume this thing we call life. As asked, what else is there?The world is changing whether we like it or not but I truly think the viewpoint that job change is painless is a shallow one. There are real human beings falling through the cracks.Wild Bill, I'll put this in stark terms. If you could extend the life of 10 million people by two years, would you kill someone now (say, Person A) and shorten A's life by 20 years.If that sounds stark, consider this: Would you allow Person A to live for another 20 years, while letting 10 million die an early death. ---- I have no simple answer to these moral questions. For example, what if Person A is an Einstein who has figured out how to travel faster than the speed of light? IOW, rather than look at the moral question, I tend to look at the effects of the decision. If I opt to let Person A live, what will other people think of my decision? Edited March 11, 2011 by August1991 Quote
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