Saipan Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Professor and intelectual full of theories with no clue about economy want to lead this country, barely coming out of recession. And he wants to lecture economist on where to spend or not to spend our hard earn dollar. Quote
wyly Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Professor and intelectual full of theories with no clue about economy want to lead this country, barely coming out of recession. And he wants to lecture economist on where to spend or not to spend our hard earn dollar. no clue ? you mean like the economist Harper who has never held a real job?..Harper who predicted there would be no recession? Harper who said canada would not have a deficit now? :lol: :lol: Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
punked Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 no clue ? you mean like the economist Harper who has never held a real job?..Harper who predicted there would be no recession? Harper who said canada would not have a deficit now? :lol: :lol: To be fair the Liberal leader has some predictions which were dead wrong under his belt to. I mean fair is fair both of them want to take the country in the wrong direction. Quote
wyly Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 To be fair the Liberal leader has some predictions which were dead wrong under his belt to. I mean fair is fair both of them want to take the country in the wrong direction. the difference is that the party in power has access to all the information to make accurate projections, the opposition does not...if the party in power is wrong it's for one of two reasons, 1-they lied, 2-they're incompetent... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Jack Weber Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 the difference is that the party in power has access to all the information to make accurate projections, the opposition does not...if the party in power is wrong it's for one of two reasons, 1-they lied, 2-they're incompetent... I'm going with #3 (1+2=3) 3.Both! All this country will get with a Liberal government is a slightly less right of centre direction with a smile instead of a scowl... In otherwords,very little difference from the current Tory minority gov't... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
punked Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 the difference is that the party in power has access to all the information to make accurate projections, the opposition does not...if the party in power is wrong it's for one of two reasons, 1-they lied, 2-they're incompetent... Sure and he lied right to our face just like the Liberals do everyday. Again both men want to take the country in the wrong direction so unless you are willing to say no to both men and send them a message then really you are voting for the same. I really don't care if I get war mongering, deficit spender with a red shirt or a war mongering, deficit spender with a blue a shirt they are offering me the same things with slight differences. I don't want to be in Afghanistan I don't want tax cuts at a time when we are swimming in red I don't want HST and I don't want the Liberals or the Tories because they promise the samethings. Don't act like they don't. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Professor and intelectual full of theories with no clue about economy want to lead this country, barely coming out of recession. And he wants to lecture economist on where to spend or not to spend our hard earn dollar. Liberal or Conservative, you have to admit that this guy is a loser as a politician. Would we really want to see this guy leading the country? We've had Harper for 5 years and guess what....the country still looks like the Canada I know (not the US) and there are no soldiers in the streets. Ignatieff should go back to Harvard and the Liberals should shoot all the backroom boys and take the steps necessary to be a true national alternative to the Tories. Quote Back to Basics
Saipan Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Posted January 16, 2011 no clue ? you mean like the economist Harper who has never held a real job He was an accountant. Emplyed by a large firm because of his degree in economy. Quote
Saipan Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Posted January 17, 2011 I don't want to be in Afghanistan Stay out of it. I don't want tax cuts at a time when we are swimming in red I don't want HST Which is it? and I don't want the Liberals or the Tories because they promise the samethings. Don't act like they don't. There's always the NDP and El Presidente Fidel Layton Quote
guyser Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 He was an accountant. Emplyed by a large firm because of his degree in economy. Really ? Where did he work as "an accountant" ? He is to accounting as Ignatieff is to Prime Minister. Quote
Esq Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 He was an accountant. Emplyed by a large firm because of his degree in economy. Saipan you are a revisionist. Harper started in the Mail Room of Imperial oil.. now he is potetntially bringing in the Mackenzie Pipeline deal... some things don't change too much. Quote
Esq Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 Saipan you are a revisionist. Harper started in the Mail Room of Imperial oil.. now he is potetntially bringing in the Mackenzie Pipeline deal... some things don't change too much. A lot more than oil seems to be going down that pipe... Quote
Esq Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 It is funny you bring the guy up when he is currently doing a 20 riding tour of Canada... how out of touch is that to you? Quote
Saipan Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Posted January 17, 2011 Saipan you are a revisionist. Harper started in the Mail Room of Imperial oil.. now he is potetntially bringing in the Mackenzie Pipeline deal... some things don't change too much. Where was Chretien at that age, potetntially.? Quote
Saipan Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Posted January 17, 2011 It is funny you bring the guy up when he is currently doing a 20 riding tour of Canada... how out of touch is that to you? How does that help anyone? Quote
punked Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 Stay out of it. Which is it? There's always the NDP and El Presidente Fidel Layton What happened to the HST is "revenue neutral"? Oh that is right you vote Conservative so you don't even know your own talking point. Go vote Liberal it will bring you the same thing Harper does. It really wont matter if they win you are spinning this all wrong. Quote
wyly Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 Where was Chretien at that age, potetntially.? Chretien at that age-Lawyer... Ignatieff...professor-taught at Harvard, Cambridge, Oxford, the University of California, the University of London and the London School of Economics. Harper-job history...mailroom boy...professional political hack...actual jobs in finance nope??? Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 I'm going with #3 (1+2=3) 3.Both! All this country will get with a Liberal government is a slightly less right of centre direction with a smile instead of a scowl... In otherwords,very little difference from the current Tory minority gov't... ya, I had considered the 3rd option... I figured someone would put the two together... fair amount of agreement with your observation but I still prefer a gentler liberal slightly left of center than the mean spirited conservative brand... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 I don't want to be in Afghanistanneither do I...I don't want tax cuts at a time when we are swimming in redI don't want HST that's a contradiction...and we don't have a HST everywhere, I don't even have a PST...everyone hates taxes but we can't run a country with the services we expect without taxes... and I don't want the Liberals or the Tories because they promise the samethings. Don't act like they don't.which makes the thread about the NDP being irrelevant kind of silly...I agree they are very much alike but the liberals aren't as nasty(or stupid)... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Saipan Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Posted January 17, 2011 Go vote Liberal it will bring you the same thing Harper does. No, thanks. I like my freedom, I paid for it dearly. I could never vote for liberals. Quote
Saipan Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Posted January 17, 2011 Chretien at that age-Lawyer... Lawyer boy. Just what we need. Another lawyer! Quote
Topaz Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 I could be wrong, but I think Ignatieff would do a better job as PM. He has ten years on Harper, he's well travelled, more life experiences, makes a lot of sense when he talks and he has a better personality, more down to earth, rather than uptight and cold , like Harper. Harper has had five years of chances to prove himself and there more negatives things comes to mind than positive things, Time to go! Quote
Saipan Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Posted January 17, 2011 He has ten years on Harper In USA? Harper was criticized for just couple of days in the US. Funny, eh? he's well travelled Who cares. So am I. makes a lot of sense when he talks For example? Harper has had five years of chances to prove himself And Canada is doing far better than most other countries already. Quote
punked Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 that's a contradiction...and we don't have a HST everywhere, I don't even have a PST... everyone hates taxes but we can't run a country with the services we expect without taxes... I just said I don't want tax cuts. However I don't an expansion of a regressive tax at the sametime as moving taxes off the richest among us. I get you don't understand. I am not arguing against tax, I am saying who pays that tax makes a difference. Quote
nicky10013 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 How does that help anyone? So what? You want to hand over the keys to government and let them start? As of right now all the LPC can do is oppose and introduce private members legislation that gets turfed in the senate anyhow. The least he can do is go out and listen to people. I also have to laugh. Ignatieff is so incredibly out of touch, yet we're sitting with a PM with a 26% approval rating who would rather dump money into corporate welfare, warplanes and prisons? And Ignatieff is out of touch? I'm not sold on his ideas but at least he's TALKING about things that actually matter to Canadians. Senior care is going to be a huge issue as the baby boomers have already started to retire. There's a lot more to say about him at least trying to have a discussion regarding these issues at pressers where the questions aren't scripted. As opposed to this government that gets one single complaint that suits their ideological goals and goes on a tear as if there's a great grass roots movement behind them. Census? Canadian National Anthem? Really...please, if we're going to have a discussion on who is really out of touch, let's at least be honest about it. Quote
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