Guest TrueMetis Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 Yes, WHMIS is such a controversial and horrible procedure. ???? So, it saves a few low-income workers' lives...so what? If it's against a tiny little increase in profits, such things are socialist nightmares! God I hope that a joke. Quote
bloodyminded Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 God I hope that a joke. I was replying to the notion that workplace safety procedures are a red-tape nightmare for the private sector. My point being that, first, I don't think it is a big deal for the private sector, and second, I couldn't care less if it is difficult for them. Too bad. Safety first. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Saipan Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 True, the worst tyrants and monsters often tend to be quite successful. No, they are not. Stalin, Mao, Castro.... never made any successful business. They were successful ONLY in being dictators. Quote
Saipan Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 There will never likely be a massive takeover, BM. That's my point! Instead, we have a baby step here and a baby step there, with months or years in between. You have to look at things over decades to see the trend. True. One can see it most clearly in liberal effort to gradually disarm the population. Tightening the screw ever so gently year by year. "Nothing in politics happens suddenly, everything is done one small step at a time." Warran Allmand (Lib.),WTN 1995.(Father of Canada's "Gun Control" Laws,1978 Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 I was replying to the notion that workplace safety procedures are a red-tape nightmare for the private sector. My point being that, first, I don't think it is a big deal for the private sector, and second, I couldn't care less if it is difficult for them. Too bad. Safety first. Sorry meant to reply to what he said not you, not sure what happened there. Quote
bloodyminded Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 Sorry meant to reply to what he said not you, not sure what happened there. No worries. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Wild Bill Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 I was replying to the notion that workplace safety procedures are a red-tape nightmare for the private sector. My point being that, first, I don't think it is a big deal for the private sector, and second, I couldn't care less if it is difficult for them. Too bad. Safety first. You see, you yourself just showed the flaw! It's not the idea of workplace safety that's the problem. It's the way things like WHMIS are implemented. I was there when it first started. I watched as one guy in the warehouse stopped production dead in its tracks over a difference of opinion that involved the GRAMMAR of the definition of the possible hazard with a specific cleaner! It took over a day to get it resolved. There were arguments about the salt used for de-icing the walk to the doors. Salt is sodium and chloride. WHIMIS in the first installment considered salt as dangerous as either chemical. The flaw is that the implementation of these rules is always in the most expensive and downright loopiest manner! Rules are written by English majors instead of engineers and chemists or whoever actually knows the subject matter. The flaw you showed is taking any criticism of HOW we do such things or IF such things are even worth the trouble as an attack on safety in the workplace! It's all very well for you to say you couldn't care less if it cost companies an unnecessarily high amount of money, or that YOU don't consider it any hardship! Countries like China and India pay lip service if at all to anything like WHMIS or safety regulations. This makes them much more profitable than companies here that you might have worked for. That's part of how they have stolen our jobs! That's another example of how socialist attitudes are screwing us. Unions here seem blind to anything beyond the walls of the companies here they work at. The fact that the real competition that steals or eliminates our jobs comes from outside the country is just to complicated a notion for them to accept, I guess. Oh well, rest assured that while our employers close down it will all be done according to the rulebook and in an environmentally conscious manner! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
bloodyminded Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 Oh well, rest assured that while our employers close down it will all be done according to the rulebook and in an environmentally conscious manner! You keep saying things like this. The private sector has not had it this good for decades. They're doing fine. Your personal anecdote about bureacratic wrangling over safety issues written by English graduates doe snot quite spell doom for the private sector. When I worked for the raving assholes at Walmart (whom are loyally defended by the Privatization as Religion faithful here on MLW), we watched a half-hour video on safety regulations, and took a quick test...just as we did for customer service, lifting heavy boxes, and dealing with store spills of spaghetti sauce. Done and done. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Wild Bill Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 You keep saying things like this. The private sector has not had it this good for decades. They're doing fine. Yeah, I guess you're right! Hamilton is a boom town! Jobs springing up all over! Of course, that doesn't hold a candle to St. Catherines and the Niagara Region. All those GM plants going full tilt, 3 shifts around the clock with thousands of guys working on each shift... Sorry BM! What could I have been thinking! If I got out more I surely would have seen all the truth to your premise! The private sector has never had it so good! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
bloodyminded Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 Yeah, I guess you're right! Hamilton is a boom town! Jobs springing up all over! Of course, that doesn't hold a candle to St. Catherines and the Niagara Region. All those GM plants going full tilt, 3 shifts around the clock with thousands of guys working on each shift... Sorry BM! What could I have been thinking! If I got out more I surely would have seen all the truth to your premise! The private sector has never had it so good! The manufacturing industries--in North America, that is--are in decline, of course. Not the private sector itself. And the decline, thanks to the desire for near slave wages, was the decision of the private sector. Not due to some government socialism. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Shwa Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 Yeah, I guess you're right! Hamilton is a boom town! Jobs springing up all over! Of course, that doesn't hold a candle to St. Catherines and the Niagara Region. All those GM plants going full tilt, 3 shifts around the clock with thousands of guys working on each shift... Sorry BM! What could I have been thinking! If I got out more I surely would have seen all the truth to your premise! The private sector has never had it so good! You are equating the manufacturing sector with the private sector as a whole, which is a mistake. Canada, 35 million people in the second largest country in the world, with most of the population within 100 miles of the longest undefended border in the world. And we are G8. Yeah, we're doing OK. Quote
eyeball Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 Ah BM, when WalMart is all that's left rest assured it will be nationalized! For the good of the people, of course! Assuming the nation is Walmartized first. You could say that was just as good for the people and millions probably wouldn't so much as bat an eye. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 It's all very well for you to say you couldn't care less if it cost companies an unnecessarily high amount of money, or that YOU don't consider it any hardship! Countries like China and India pay lip service if at all to anything like WHMIS or safety regulations. This makes them much more profitable than companies here that you might have worked for. That's part of how they have stolen our jobs! No, the companies we encouraged to move abroad took our jobs with them because we also forbade ourselves from ever imposing import duties to protect our jobs and our standards, you know...so we could join in the race to the bottom. That's another example of how socialist attitudes are screwing us. Oh get off it, you and everyone else knows damn well it was your freakin' end of the political spectrum that set us up for this fall. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 1, 2011 Report Posted January 1, 2011 ....Canada, 35 million people in the second largest country in the world, with most of the population within 100 miles of the longest undefended border in the world. And we are G8. The "undefended border" is now a fond memory: ....Between the legal crossing points, all along the Canada-U.S. border, there’s a new reality. While the U.S. is not constructing an 1,100-kilometre fence between itself and Canada, as it is doing along its southern border with Mexico, the makings of a virtual fence are in place along what was once known as the world’s longest undefended border. High in the sky over North Dakota, an unmanned Predator drone is on patrol, equipped with an infrared security camera that looks forward 16 miles. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shwa Posted January 2, 2011 Report Posted January 2, 2011 The "undefended border" is now a fond memory: There, how's this fix: ...Canada, 35 million people in the second largest country in the world, with most of the population within 100 miles of our longest undefended border in the world. And we are G8. Yeah, we're still doing OK. Quote
Argus Posted January 3, 2011 Report Posted January 3, 2011 You are equating the manufacturing sector with the private sector as a whole, which is a mistake. Canada, 35 million people in the second largest country in the world, with most of the population within 100 miles of the longest undefended border in the world. And we are G8. Yeah, we're doing OK. All of which essentially means - nothing. And we're G8 through American influence. They brought us into the G7. There are bigger economies out there, and ours is mostly tied with the US anyway, so we're hardly a world influence. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
charter.rights Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Posted January 3, 2011 All of which essentially means - nothing. And we're G8 through American influence. They brought us into the G7. There are bigger economies out there, and ours is mostly tied with the US anyway, so we're hardly a world influence. But they like us because we throw million dollar parties! Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Saipan Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 Oh get off it, you and everyone else knows damn well it was your freakin' end of the political spectrum that set us up for this fall. Yes, they invented Affirmative Action. Morons. Quote
Saipan Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 But they like us because we throw million dollar parties! Yep, like Chretein said: 'so what if we lost million dollars, we still did a good job' Quote
Shwa Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 All of which essentially means - nothing. And we're G8 through American influence. They brought us into the G7. There are bigger economies out there, and ours is mostly tied with the US anyway, so we're hardly a world influence. Yeah but, we're doing OK. So 14th, out of whatever, means we're doing alright. Your shame at being Canadian isn't relevant here. Quote
charter.rights Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Posted January 4, 2011 Yep, like Chretein said: 'so what if we lost million dollars, we still did a good job' And Harper says: "So what if we blow a billion dollars, we had a good time." Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Argus Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 Yeah but, we're doing OK. So 14th, out of whatever, means we're doing alright. Your shame at being Canadian isn't relevant here. I'm not ashamed I'm Canadian. I'm ashamed YOU are. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Saipan Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 And Harper says: "So what if we blow a billion dollars, we had a good time." You said that, not Harper. See evidence above Quote
Shwa Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 Yeah but, we're doing OK. So 14th, out of whatever, means we're doing alright. Your shame at being Canadian isn't relevant here. I'm not ashamed I'm Canadian. I'm ashamed YOU are. My apologies, the way you phrased your earlier response, it looked like you had a little of that old hidden Canadian shame going on. But seeing not, then let me re-phrase: Your shame at Canadians isn't relevant here. Quote
Argus Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 My apologies, the way you phrased your earlier response, it looked like you had a little of that old hidden Canadian shame going on. But seeing not, then let me re-phrase: Your shame at Canadians isn't relevant here. Okay, let me rephrase too. I'm not ashamed at Canadians. I'm ashamed at pig-ignorant Canadians. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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