jbg Posted December 17, 2010 Report Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) I read the column excerpted below with a mixture of prior knowledge, disgust and disdain. First, where I depart from the writer is in his admiration for Richard Milhous Nixon. Both Nixon and Kissinger were partners in the cynical policy of detente. The Jews were not the only victims of detente; millions of Czechs, Slovaks, Poles, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians and Hungarians, as well as East Germans were enslaved. Not to mention North Koreans, Chinese and Vietnamese. We couldn't fight all those countries, but we didn't need to prop them up either. In other words, I sincerely believe that Kissinger was an "equal opportunity cynic". The one debt that we sort of owe him, along with Alexander Haig, was keeping our country on an even keep while Nixon's mental health and honesty problems threatened to utterly destroy the world's most powerful democracy. Otherwise, I mince no words for either. Kissinger, court Jews and Anti-Semites (link) Few would be shocked with details of further anti-Semitic outbursts by former president Richard Nixon revealed in the latest transcripts of tapes released from the Nixon library. He was a vulgar man whose foul mouthing extended beyond Jews to Afro-Americans, Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans and other ethnic groups. **************** One need only read Yehuda Avners recent book The Prime Ministers [pages 246-248], which provides transcripts of the Nixon tapes clearly demonstrating that it was the president who overruled his Jewish Secretary of State, ordering him to pull out all the stops to airfreight weapons to Israel at a critical turning point in the war. We are now privy to Kissingers notorious outburst to Nixon following a meeting with Golda Meir during which she pleaded for the White House to support efforts to free Soviet Jews. What he subsequently said will undoubtedly haunt him for the rest of his life: The immigration of Jews from the Soviet Union is not an objective of American foreign policy. And if they put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern. He ended this obscene remark by conceding that gassing Jews may be a humanitarian concern. Even in his worst moments, Nixon never suggested that he would stand aside whilst a replay of the Holocaust took place. It was Kissinger, the Jewish Secretary of State and himself a refugee from Nazi persecution who had he remained in Germany would probably have been gassed, made this obscene remark. As it was, he lost 13 of his close relatives during the Shoa. Had Louis Farrakhan or Mel Gibson said something remotely similar, there would rightly have been an impassioned outcry. Edited December 17, 2010 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bloodyminded Posted December 18, 2010 Report Posted December 18, 2010 Yes, I came across these lovely Kissinger remarks just a day or two ago myself. What a douchebag. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
jbg Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Posted December 18, 2010 Yes, I came across these lovely Kissinger remarks just a day or two ago myself. What a douchebag. Nixon and he were quite a special crew, no? I think you'd have to go to the Mulroney or Chretien era for your equivalent. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
dre Posted December 18, 2010 Report Posted December 18, 2010 The one debt that we sort of owe him, along with Alexander Haig, was keeping our country on an even keep while Nixon's mental health and honesty problems threatened to utterly destroy the world's most powerful democracy. That jury is still out on that one. Nixon is the guy that introduced the concept of magic money to the US, and allowed mega spender/borrowers like Reagan, Bush2, and Obama. He might still go down as the guy that destroyed the US as it was known. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
jbg Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Posted December 18, 2010 That jury is still out on that one. Nixon is the guy that introduced the concept of magic money to the US, and allowed mega spender/borrowers like Reagan, Bush2, and Obama. He might still go down as the guy that destroyed the US as it was known. The U.S.'s Trudeau. All analogies aside he totally shattered the previous the dignity and awe in which the Presidence was always held. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Posted December 18, 2010 ....All analogies aside he totally shattered the previous the dignity and awe in which the Presidence was always held. Nixon was very important during an important time.....Nixon matters. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Posted December 18, 2010 Nixon was very important during an important time.....Nixon matters. Just about everything Nixon did was mischievous and destructive, including his "liberal" accomplishments such as detente and wage and price controls. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Posted December 18, 2010 Just about everything Nixon did was mischievous and destructive, including his "liberal" accomplishments such as detente and wage and price controls. Nixon was...Nixon. Mention his name and there is no doubt about his impact on space and time. The list of "accomplishments" is long indeed, and he even had the decency to resign. Be it President Richard M. Nixon or Tricky Dick, this man left his mark on a nation and the world. He did it his way....most successors have been comparative lightweights. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
dre Posted December 18, 2010 Report Posted December 18, 2010 Nixon was...Nixon. Mention his name and there is no doubt about his impact on space and time. The list of "accomplishments" is long indeed, and he even had the decency to resign. Be it President Richard M. Nixon or Tricky Dick, this man left his mark on a nation and the world. He did it his way....most successors have been comparative lightweights. His "mark" is a 15 trillion dollar debt. He left a mark on American in the same way you leave marks in your underpants. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
eyeball Posted December 18, 2010 Report Posted December 18, 2010 The U.S.'s Trudeau. Nixon attempted to limit the power of the state over the individual? I don't think so. All analogies aside he totally shattered the previous the dignity and awe in which the Presidence was always held. No he simply established what is usually the case, that power corrupts. Face it, he was a crook. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Posted December 18, 2010 (edited) His "mark" is a 15 trillion dollar debt. He left a mark on American in the same way you leave marks in your underpants. If being crude is your game, President Nixon frequently wiped his ass with Canada. ...Much to their surprise, Canadians found themselves no different in American eyes than Western Europeans and the Japanese. ....The "special relationship" that had existed between the two North Americans at least since the Second World War, was officially over as the various elements of the NEP took effect, Edited December 18, 2010 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Bob Posted December 18, 2010 Report Posted December 18, 2010 You know, there's nothing at all shocking about Kissinger's comments. The only thing that is depressing, but not shocking, is that Kissinger is yet another Jew on a long list who sold out our people. He became American first, second, and third. Any sensitivities he may have held for the Jewish people were sidelined, if not completely ignored. Let's be serious, if the Soviet Union had been putting us in ovens, it wouldn't have been an American concern. It is not America's concern until it affects America practically. This is true for all countries, and this truth is illustrated every single day. This truth has been illustrated every single day since time immemorial. Yes, we will always have stories of heroic individuals, groups, and sometimes leaders of states, but these examples are always eclipsed by the endless list of apathy and collaboration. We cannot be so naive to not recognize the truth in Kissinger's words. Of course America, more than almost any other country, does act on principle. We cannot pretend, however, that America's moral principles aren't regularly compromised for pragmatic (real or imagined) purposes. America sent Jewish refugees back to Europe during WWII (so did Canada, by the way). Britain did the same with the Jewish "illegal immigrants" to the pre-Israel Palestine Mandate, in order to appease the anti-Semitism of the Arabs. So although America is unique in the world with respect to standing on principle, we can't pretend that it hasn't bent its principles many times for its perceived self-interest. Many Jewish people need to wake up and realize that when it comes down to the line, most people will look the other way at best, or actively collaborate at worst. It never ceases to shock me when other Jewish people get upset when it is revealed most non-Jews (and even many Jews among us) don't give a damn about us - as if they haven't yet learned the lessons of history. Kissinger was right - it's not America's problem what anybody does to anyone else in another country. It only becomes a problem when we speak up for ourselves and demand action on our behalf. If America had no Jewish population, it would never have acted on behalf of Jewish interests. America's pro-Jewish actions, which Jewish people around the world should always be thankful and appreciative of, have always come as a result of internal Jewish grassroots movements. Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Posted December 19, 2010 .... If America had no Jewish population, it would never have acted on behalf of Jewish interests. America's pro-Jewish actions, which Jewish people around the world should always be thankful and appreciative of, have always come as a result of internal Jewish grassroots movements. This is not always the case....as American and "Jewish" interests have intersected several times. "Grassroots movements" were not the primary motivation or consideration. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted December 19, 2010 Author Report Posted December 19, 2010 His "mark" is a 15 trillion dollar debt. He left a mark on American in the same way you leave marks in your underpants. We fully agree for once. I read his autobiography to try to have a more balanced view of him. Instead, I grew more enraged. And by the way he was not pro-Israel. He did what he did in the airlift since he had just gone to Moscow, hat in hand in May 1972 and came back with nothing to show for it. The Soviets played him for a fool and he was extracting revenge. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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