jordan Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 It's on Channel 56,on Cpac--- Right Now-and Stephen Harper Declined to be on the show but Martin and Layton are on Now At 5:00p.m.......watch and see how your Leader stacks up....Harpers playing Hide and Seek Politics because he's not Forthright or up Front with the People about his Agenda........tune in now Quote
takeanumber Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 Harper couldn't make it. He's too busy gagging his candidates. And yes, Harper has that much to hide. Quote
Alliance Fanatic Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 Yeah, he has to because the media twists up all of the candidates words on positions such as abortion and gay marriage. I guess its a crime to be a christian, and believe that homosexuality is an "unnatural lifestyle". Quote "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others" - George Orwell's Animal Farm
Bionic Antboy Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 T'was a good show. Thanks for the heads-up. I would have liked to have heard something from Harper other than sound-bites and spin control coming from the Refor-er-Alli-er Conservative leader. Quote
jordan Posted June 12, 2004 Author Report Posted June 12, 2004 Yes Because Harper didn't have the Courage to show up-I didn't get a chance to get to here what he is for and about and everyone else in our Country either.....What's he Hiding.....I enjoyed it we can't lose with Martin or Layton or a Miniority with Martin an or Layton back to back Quote
takeanumber Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 What about Aboriginal policy? It's amazing how silent Harper has been on that topic. I'd like to hear more on that topic. Would a Conservative government implement the Flannagan program against aboriginals? Do tell Mr. Harper. Do tell. Yeah, he has to because the media twists up all of the candidates words on positions such as abortion and gay marriage Yes. It's all the media. Yes. Harper is a victim. I'll be sure to shed a tear for him. Quote
Slavik44 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 yes because we all know that every saturday canadians tune into CPAC it gets amazing ratings. And yes you can loose with martin or layton, you can loose your economic freedom, you can loose 250 million to liberal freinds, you can loose 2 billion to a useless gun registry, PM says we have a democratic deficiet in canada, the problem is he has caused it with his appointed all star candidates that couldn't win their own nomination, you assume that a free vote means they are for it but i highly doubt it, that firstly depends on a conservative majority, it then depends that every conservative MP is social conservative and that the fiscal conservatives don't get elected. George Bush is extremly conservative, yet he hasn;t abolished abortion, it woudl be ridiculous to assume that a more liberal person in comparison to Bush, harper, would ban abortion in a more lbieral country, canada. Your B.S stements follow no logic they follow simple childish rants from a childish party that just lost its favorite toy, absolute control over canadians. Belive ti or not once a party is elected there enxt goal is to get elected for another term, baning abortion, implementing the death penalty, screwing over quebec and the poor, destroying aboriginal benifiets, and having the cost of living rise by 50% is not going to get him re-elected. It is going to get him re-called. But please keep using your scare tactics i mean I am almost startign to think that you belive them. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
takeanumber Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 Your B.S stements follow no logic they follow simple childish rants from a childish party that just lost its favorite toy, absolute control over canadians Might want to look at yourself in the mirror before you lecture people about 'ranting' or 'logic'. But please keep using your scare tactics i mean I am almost startign to think that you belive them. You know, they're not 'tactics' when it's true. These are policies that most Canadians will find 'scary' when they learn of them. You know, making noise about the Notwithstanding clause is 'scary'. You know, the unknown is 'scary'. And the massive hole in the Conservative party where 'policy' is supposed to be...that's scary. Because Canadians arn't convinced/don't know whether or not the Conservatives have truly moderated. And from my neck of the woods, Rob Anders is running, Diane Ablonzy, Jason KENNY, all running, so to me, the Conservatives are still the same Anti-immigrant, Pro-Aparteid, Anti-Gay, Anti-Choice, Anti-Public Healthcare PRO-BUSH party that they've always been. It's the same rot. It's the same stink. And it's an outrage that the Conservative party HASN'T moderated when this country NEEDS a viable alternative. Social Conservatives are getting greedy. Quote
Slavik44 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 Your B.S stements follow no logic they follow simple childish rants from a childish party that just lost its favorite toy, absolute control over canadians Might want to look at yourself in the mirror before you lecture people about 'ranting' or 'logic'. But please keep using your scare tactics i mean I am almost startign to think that you belive them. You know, they're not 'tactics' when it's true. These are policies that most Canadians will find 'scary' when they learn of them. You know, making noise about the Notwithstanding clause is 'scary'. You know, the unknown is 'scary'. And the massive hole in the Conservative party where 'policy' is supposed to be...that's scary. Because Canadians arn't convinced/don't know whether or not the Conservatives have truly moderated. And from my neck of the woods, Rob Anders is running, Diane Ablonzy, Jason KENNY, all running, so to me, the Conservatives are still the same Anti-immigrant, Pro-Aparteid, Anti-Gay, Anti-Choice, Anti-Public Healthcare PRO-BUSH party that they've always been. It's the same rot. It's the same stink. And it's an outrage that the Conservative party HASN'T moderated when this country NEEDS a viable alternative. Social Conservatives are getting greedy. REALY????? give me one stement that harper will ban abortion, go ahead, lets see the logic in your post, you must have proof that he will ban abortion you cling to that so furiously so provide the proof. You say they are nto tactics if they are not true, but where is your proof? tell me? where is it? Then you say most canadians will find his policies scary when the learn of them, meaning that canadians have not learned of them, meaning that you, as a canadian, have no proof they exist because if they did, then people would have already learned about them. i also realize that you are a little confused but jsut to inform you that it is still a tactic weather or not it is true. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
takeanumber Posted June 12, 2004 Report Posted June 12, 2004 REALY?????give me one stement that harper will ban abortion, go ahead, lets see the logic in your post, you must have proof that he will ban abortion you cling to that so furiously so provide the proof. You say they are nto tactics if they are not true, but where is your proof? tell me? where is it? Then you say most canadians will find his policies scary when the learn of them, meaning that canadians have not learned of them, meaning that you, as a canadian, have no proof they exist because if they did, then people would have already learned about them. i also realize that you are a little confused but to inform you that it is still a tactic weather or not it is true. Realy ---> -1pt, Spelling. give --> -1pt, not capitalized. statement, logic --> -3pts, a statement is 'proof', not 'logic'. you cling to that so furiously so provide the proof. --> -1pt, Awk. nto --> -1 pt. tell me? where is it? -> -2pt, fragment, capitals. the -> -1pt, spelling. (they) canadians -> -2pts, capitals. (x2) jsut - > -1 sp. weather -> -2 sp. (whether) Total -15pts. 5/20. F Quote
jordan Posted June 12, 2004 Author Report Posted June 12, 2004 Harper seems to be doing what Harris did appearing only in Pre-recorded Commercial adds and at chosen venues--Practising the Politics of Avoidance--why do you think that is --He either isn't Media savvy or a good knowledgeable speaker..or is afraid of Questions!.....but something sure stinks about his Hide and Seek Politics and it looks awfully Similar to Ontario Conservative style Tactics to escape scrutiny and confrontation--We're not Stupid....we seen that act before.....in Ontario.......Harper only appeared once in Eastern Ontario....no questions allowed... Quote
Slavik44 Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 REALY?????give me one stement that harper will ban abortion, go ahead, lets see the logic in your post, you must have proof that he will ban abortion you cling to that so furiously so provide the proof. You say they are nto tactics if they are not true, but where is your proof? tell me? where is it? Then you say most canadians will find his policies scary when the learn of them, meaning that canadians have not learned of them, meaning that you, as a canadian, have no proof they exist because if they did, then people would have already learned about them. i also realize that you are a little confused but to inform you that it is still a tactic weather or not it is true. Realy ---> -1pt, Spelling. give --> -1pt, not capitalized. statement, logic --> -3pts, a statement is 'proof', not 'logic'. you cling to that so furiously so provide the proof. --> -1pt, Awk. nto --> -1 pt. tell me? where is it? -> -2pt, fragment, capitals. the -> -1pt, spelling. (they) canadians -> -2pts, capitals. (x2) jsut - > -1 sp. weather -> -2 sp. (whether) Total -15pts. 5/20. F well I am glad i got 5/20 because the best i can give you is 1/6. What you wrote was not in paragraph form, it did not follow the assignment instructions. Your marking was incorect, as "weather" is not a spelling mistake it is the wrong word. You also neglect to use quotes or footnotes to give credit to the author of the original statements in your text. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
Slavik44 Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 Weak reply. Just following your trend Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
August1991 Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 These last posts remind me of a student who used this forum to write a term paper. For fun, I started to correct it and after about the third quote, I gave up with a sarcastic remark. The following exchange was ugly I know that editors delight in and cringe at our writings. Balzac and Dickens wrote like this. And it's the best way to learn. I know my written English is much better now. (And TakeNumb, I like your style.) Quote
idealisttotheend Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 The last posts remind of a favorite saying of mine: When you can't correct the argument, correct the spelling. Quote All too often the prize goes, not to who best plays the game, but to those who make the rules....
Sully Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 I have seen takeanumber refer to something called pro-aparteid, does anyone know if he means apartheid SYLLABICATION: a·part·heid PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: -pärtht, -ht KEY NOUN: 1. An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, involving political, legal, and economic discrimination against nonwhites. 2. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups. 3. The condition of being separated from others; segregation. Takeanumber, I wouldn't go down the road of pretending that you are an English teacher. I mean we all make mistakes here, all of us do...... Quote
takeanumber Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 Takeanumber, I wouldn't go down the road of pretending that you are an English teacher. I mean we all make mistakes here, all of us do...... Uber. When you can't correct the argument, correct the spelling. It's usually around here: when you can't correct the arguement, attack the writer. I'm returning the favours from now on. Quote
Slavik44 Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 Takeanumber, I wouldn't go down the road of pretending that you are an English teacher. I mean we all make mistakes here, all of us do...... Uber. When you can't correct the argument, correct the spelling. It's usually around here: when you can't correct the arguement, attack the writer. I'm returning the favours from now on. hey I wasn't attacking you, I was asking you to support your arguements. If you want to be an asshole go ahead, but it just ruins the forums. If you have a problem with my arguement, then let me know, don't be a jerk about it. If you know my arguement to be wrong then prove me wrong. Tha tis the purpose of these forums, not to post degrading comments about my typing skills, when you have nothing better to say. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
caesar Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 If you want to make a point and a good impression; then read what you wrote before posting. Proper spelling and good grammar; indicates that you care about what you write and have taken the time to research your ideas. A spell check would be very helpful in correcting typing errors. If you don't check your posts before sending; it tends to indicate you are speaking from your heart and may not have done the background work. I am sometimes guilty of rushing out a reply and not checking exactly what I wrote. If I get a serious poster; with a serious view; I would be more diligent. Quote
Slavik44 Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 If you want to make a point and a good impression; then read what you wrote before posting. Proper spelling and good grammar; indicates that you care about what you write and have taken the time to research your ideas. A spell check would be very helpful in correcting typing errors. If you don't check your posts before sending; it tends to indicate you are speaking from your heart and may not have done the background work.I am sometimes guilty of rushing out a reply and not checking exactly what I wrote. If I get a serious poster; with a serious view; I would be more diligent. But I do post from my heart, if i post from my head what I post is meaningless, for me to post it has to have meaning, and if it has meaning to me and matters to me in my heart, that is mor eproof then anything that i care greatly about what i say. It comes from my heart because I care. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
caesar Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 Sorry if you cannot think with your head. The issues to be decided need us to be informed and fair to all. You may care but you do need to know the facts; otherwise you may be in for a big shock. The issues are too important to leave to the heart. We must face reality; the costs and what is do able. I can think of many scenarios of a perfect world; but unfortunately, we need to be able to pay for these things. Quote
Slavik44 Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 Sorry if you cannot think with your head. The issues to be decided need us to be informed and fair to all. You may care but you do need to know the facts; otherwise you may be in for a big shock. The issues are too important to leave to the heart. We must face reality; the costs and what is do able. I can think of many scenarios of a perfect world; but unfortunately, we need to be able to pay for these things. Stop putting words in my mouth, please. I never said I coulnd't or didn;t think with my head, i said i posted with my heart. meaning i sincerley belive what I post and i do think to back up what I post, to insinuate that I don't is a laod of crap, but I first and foremost follow my heart and then use my head to back it up. I still ask you to give me the statemnt where harper said he would ban abortion, yet you have not confronted this and you ahve not proven me wrong. You continue to put words in my mout, mis interpret what i say, or just completly ignore it because of my typing skills. It seems to be that you are the one who needs to do soem thinking before he posts, where is your proof that harper wants to ban abortion, that was the question that started this whole thing. So far no one ahs answered it, no oen has adressed it, why? If you have such un deniable proof that he wants to, show it to me. If nto do not accuse me of not thinking when I post, because I am capable of thinking and following my heart, and I do. All I am askign is that people give me a little respect and instead of critisizing my typing, answer my questions. If that is to much to ask, the perhaps those who refuse to do so, are the ones who ar ein for a rude awekening. I too (look I even added a double "o" for you guys) can think of many perfect scenarios, but they are nto aplicable. if you search through my posting history you will realize I have never brought them up. To assume I sit here and see a utopian society under stephen harper is very niave of you. To assume i sti here and belvie I know the light to make the whole world join hads, is very niave of you. To assuem that I follow my heart only is again very niave of you. To sot harper will ban abortiona nd not back it up with fact, and acuse me of not being able to think with my head, is downright hipocritical and un acceptable. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
Reverend Blair Posted June 13, 2004 Report Posted June 13, 2004 Don't mean to be rude, but just to get back on topic for a second.... Somebody mentioned that nobody watches CPAC. The Great Canadian Job Interview also aired on NewsWorld at least twice, so it was well worth the small investment of time required by the candidates. I would have been very interested to see what Harper's responses to the questions would have been. These were questions being posed by young Canadians, people we are supposed to be encouraging to vote. I know, as an NDP supporter, I would have been very critical of Jack Layton had he skipped such a public forum during an election campaign. If the Conservatives are indeed responsive to the grass roots of Canada, Stphen Harper should be making every effort to hear from those grass roots and respond to their questions and concerns. Quote
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