COME TAKE THE POLL! POLITICAL STRIPE!

[mikedavid00]

There's no science behind political stripe.

I'm trying to make this as broad as possible. You either want to take personal wealth and re-distribute it (Netherlands). Or have the gov't provide a playing field to beneift only the large players so they can do things like lobby the gov't for their own agendas (ie: bring in cheap foreigh labour via immigration) (USA, CAN, UK, etc). Or, have a Libertarian system where people control their own destiny, keep their wealth and most likely vote via direct democracy with majority rule so the power gets taken away from gov't and only the people decide what they want for themselves. There's never been a Libertarian society before so it's all theory but that's what it would most likely be.

Considering these three, ALTHOUGH I KNOW YOU THINK IT'S FLAWED, if you had to pick one, which would it be.

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Edited November 20, 2010 by mikedavid00

[msj]

I'm not voting cuz the choices are stoopid.

Just because I know it's flawed doesn't mean I'm going to take part in it.

One could make it less flawed by providing better, and more, choices.

[KeyStone]

Yes, this is exactly how current political advisors word polls.

I can tell that this highly scientific poll was the result of the collaborative efforts of several PhD's,

I like the option where someone takes most of my money and gives it to someone else.

That sounds really appealing and totally unbiased.

I have absolutely no idea which of the three systems presented is favoured by the author(s) of the poll.

[Jack Weber]

Yes, this is exactly how current political advisors word polls.

I can tell that this highly scientific poll was the result of the collaborative efforts of several PhD's,

I like the option where someone takes most of my money and gives it to someone else.

That sounds really appealing and totally unbiased.

I have absolutely no idea which of the three systems presented is favoured by the author(s) of the poll.

I'm going with option #4...Which has obviously been ommitted...

4.Fascist/Ethnonationalist...

I suspect that one is favoured by the OP...

Edited November 20, 2010 by Jack Weber

[guyser]

There's no science behind political stripe.

There is behind Red Stripe....yum.

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Good one Mikey. Be even funnier if it were true.

Oh...you were serious? Geez if they are I hope they arent brown skinned, hope its not raining when they check in either.

[Sir Bandelot]

There's no "Anarco-Syndicalist Communist"...

[Jack Weber]

There's no "Anarco-Syndicalist Communist"...

Mainly because that would be a serious misnomer....Anarcho-Syndicalists are decidedly NOT Communists...

But it would'nt shock me if the OP got that one confused....

[wyly]

I'm going with option #4...Which has obviously been ommitted...

4.Fascist/Ethnonationalist...

I suspect that one is favoured by the OP...

what a stoopeed poll

[Michael Hardner]

This is probably the worst poll posted yet. And that is saying something.

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Of course they are.

[wyly]

Of course they are.

at least the ones that wear swastika armbands...

[Sir Bandelot]

Mainly because that would be a serious misnomer....Anarcho-Syndicalists are decidedly NOT Communists...

But it would'nt shock me if the OP got that one confused....

Thank you for pointing that out. I forgot this thread is about actually making sense.

My bad

[mikedavid00]

You guys need to study political theory more.

Political theory is based off the movement of economic wealth. ie: Nationalism has little to do with economic wealth. Being conservative has little to do with the movement of economic wealth.

Now, you eitehr suppor 1 of 3 systems.

-The gov't will a take large portions of *all* wealth and redistribute it to others. Nethlands has "The poorest rich people, and the richest poor people". This is socialism.

-The gov't works with industry to promote special breaks and monopolies to special companies using gov't bodies (like the CRTC) to regulate the wealth of certain industries, companies, banks, etc. So the gov't ensures the success of Bell Canada by granting it a monopoly. If they need cheaper labor, let in immigrants to satisfy their needs. Forget about what the voting public wants. The shares for the Bell Canada are held mostly by civil servants with gov't backed pensions so the gov't has a lot of motive to protect these industries as the lion's share of investments are from the civil service, banks, etc. This is called fascism. Both our Liberal/Conservative govt's and most first world nations are living under fascism right now. If you don't know this already, you don't udnerstand political theory.

-The gov't has little power or control over your life and certainly woulnd't be promoting gov't protected monopolies. The gov't can not determine policy by themselves and minorities lose rights (as in a minority of people cannot determine any outcome that effect the majority of people). There is no public social programs. Social programs are provided from charities. There is no gov't protected monopolies and little financial reguation. Every person simply needs to make the best descision for themselves. This is Libertarianism.

So you want the gov't to either

1 - Tell you how to live and dertermine how much you should own to be a 'comfortable, content citizen'.

2 - Aid and embed private industry through large gov't departments. These deparements help set up monopolies in order to gain wealth for an elite cast of society (ie: the civic service, unions, etc). The goal is to drive share value up at any cost. Even if it bacfires or goes against the well being of the majority of citizens who are not in the elite cirlce who benefit. A merger of state and private sector.

3 - The gov't has little power and pretty much has nothing to do with your daily life. When you work or trade with another, the gov't is not involved in regulating or taxing these transactions at all.

Sorry guys. You have to side under one of the 3. Suprised how many chickened out because they know they want #1 or suppot the current system of #2.

Whatever political stripe you believe in, must match one of the three. There's no way around it or disagreeing with this.

[M.Dancer]

I'm going with 'Socilatist' because it's funny.

and also

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...it most cloesely resembles...

[Shwa]

You guys need to study political theory more.

Political theory is ...<snip>

Whatever political stripe you believe in, must match one of the three. There's no way around it or disagreeing with this.

I disagree. Mainly because you didn't offer Anarchist as a choice. You know, if we are talking "theory" and all...

[Jerry J. Fortin]

I disagree. Mainly because you didn't offer Anarchist as a choice. You know, if we are talking "theory" and all...

I voted libertarian. It is the only logical choice to make.

[Shwa]

I voted libertarian. It is the only logical choice to make.

Well, if Anarchist was a choice, I would have cancelled out your Libertarian vote thereby creating a state of anarchy. So I would have won.

[mikedavid00]

Well, if Anarchist was a choice, I would have cancelled out your Libertarian vote thereby creating a state of anarchy. So I would have won.

Anarchy is too 'fantasy'. We have shared power grids, roads, courts, borders, etc. It's fantasy that isn't reality and that's why I dont include it.

I'm talking about realistic political stripe.

[Shwa]

Anarchy is too 'fantasy'. We have shared power grids, roads, courts, borders, etc. It's fantasy that isn't reality and that's why I dont include it.

I'm talking about realistic political stripe.

Well, no. You said theory. If you want to talk "realistic" then I think your poll needs about 183 (maybe 184) other selections to be realistic. And at some levels anarchy exists already as a sub-political movement in some urban settings. Especially in Toronto.