g_bambino Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Posted October 2, 2010 Well, as a monarchist, I certainly don't consider myself a fascist. Monarchists come in all political stripes. ... Not to suggest that you're a fascist, that is! Quote
Smallc Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 Monarchists come in all political stripes. ... Not to suggest that you're a fascist, that is! Sure..... Quote
g_bambino Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Posted October 2, 2010 Sure..... You scribble Hitler moustaches on pictures of the Queen, don't you... Quote
Smallc Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 You scribble Hitler moustaches on pictures of the Queen, don't you... No, I draw the Queen's hair on pictures of Hitler. Quote
g_bambino Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Posted October 2, 2010 No, I draw the Queen's hair on pictures of Hitler. Wow. You got a rare LOL out of me on that one. Quote
Smallc Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 Wow. You got a rare LOL out of me on that one. Quote
Argus Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 Why does'nt iggy just come out and say it, that with another harper minority we will pull the plug and the libs dippers and bloc heads will run the country, just come out and say it and lets have a election or just STFU about it. The ball is in iggy's court,we all know what harper thinks ,but iggy will not say. He will never say it prior to an election because he knows he would lose that election very badly. As much as they lefties on this site would accept ANYONE in a coalition to get rid of Harper most of the people of this country have a great deal of doubt of the wisdom of aligning with separatists and socialists, let alone BOTH at the same time. No coalition between those three would be sustainable unless the Liberals prostituted themselves to the smaller parties and gave them whatever they wanted. That means more power for Quebec on the one hand, and bigger government spending - with either larger deficits or higher taxes on the other. Taken together, most Canadians wouldn't stomach it and the voters would give the Liberals what they gave Kim Campbell's PCers. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 What is more democratic: A government formed by a political party with 35% of the popular vote and a minority of seats in parliament, or a government formed by several parties that make up 60% (or so) of the popular vote, with a majority of seats in parliament? Certainly the latter option is no LESS democratic than the former.... I don't deny that the troika could form a coalition which would be entirely democratic. What I'm saying is that the next election - which would probably not be long in coming - could well destroy the Liberal party. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
August1991 Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 (edited) He will never say it prior to an election because he knows he would lose that election very badly.As much as they lefties on this site would accept ANYONE in a coalition to get rid of Harper most of the people of this country have a great deal of doubt of the wisdom of aligning with separatists and socialists, let alone BOTH at the same time. I have to agree Argus, and I believe you are also right in Quebec. A federal coalition including the Bloc (even tacitly) is death to the BQ vote.The problem now is that Dion created such a coalition with Layton, amateurly announced it, and Duceppe signed on to it. Dion may be gone but the other two are still around. Ignatieff can say what he wants (and he hasn't repudiated Trudeau-style any truck with separatists) so Ignatieff appears to be, like a desperate Dion, another compromising Layton/Duceppe. Harper will play this in English Canada, and Quebec. The only question is whether it works. In Quebec, it appears that Duceppe has been co-opted - the federal system has bought him. Frankly, I think voters will forget about these arcane shenanigans once an election starts. It's not a third-rail, deciding factor - although I admit that it has the potential to become one. Edited October 2, 2010 by August1991 Quote
myata Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 The problem now is that Dion created such a coalition with Layton, amateurly announced it, and Duceppe signed on to it. Dion may be gone but the other two are still around. Ignatieff can say what he wants (and he hasn't repudiated Trudeau-style any truck with separatists) so Ignatieff appears to be, like a desperate Dion, another compromising Layton/Duceppe. Harper will play this in English Canada, and Quebec. The only question is whether it works. In Quebec, it appears that Duceppe has been co-opted - the federal system has bought him. Yeah, yeah. Some can choose freely political idea, movement, agenda they adhere to and have their voice heard. And some get absorbed in minute details of pointless stupid aimed at nothing and leading to nowhere ephemerial perpetual grand political show games. To each, their own. Amen. And yawn. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Jerry J. Fortin Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 If I was Iggy, I would continue to sit in the weeds until the election is over. Only then will we know what the numbers really look like. At that point I believe that Iggy will have a majority albeit with a coalition, and then is when to drop the hammer and seal Harpers fate, but not before. Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 If I was Iggy, I would continue to sit in the weeds until the election is over. Only then will we know what the numbers really look like. At that point I believe that Iggy will have a majority albeit with a coalition, and then is when to drop the hammer and seal Harpers fate, but not before. That's certainly the only way to form a coalition that is guaranteed not to be outmaneuvered. If not waiting for an election, then at least waiting until the government is defeated and Harper no long has the monopoly on the GG's ear. Quote
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