Should Environmentalists Be Careful Of Their Rhetoric?

[Shady]

The reason I ask is because of what happened earlier today.

Environmental Militant Killed by Police at Discovery Channel Headquarters

A radical enviornmentalist who took three hostages at the Discovery Channel headquarters while wearing what police may be explosives was shot and killed by officers, police said

ABC News

And now some interesting things have been uncovered...

"All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions," it reads. "In those programs' places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it."

Washington Post

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Lee appears to have posted environmental and population-control demands online, saying humans are ruining the planet and that Discovery should develop programs to sound the alarm.

“Nothing is more important than saving ... the Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels. The humans? The planet does not need humans.”

Lee said at the time that he experienced an ‘‘awakening” when he watched former Vice President Al Gore’s environmental documentary ‘‘An Inconvenient Truth.”

MSNBC

[punked]

The reason I ask is because of what happened earlier today.

And now some interesting things have been uncovered...

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Well he was also yelling about immigration and anchor Babies. Who is it that talks about anchor Babies on TV all the time Shady????

"Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that."

That is a direct quote from the gun man.

MY NAME IS SHADY AND I THINK THE POT IS BLACK!

You are crazy you know that right?

Edited September 1, 2010 by punked

[Shady]

More information from TPM.

He said he was inspired by "Ishmael," a novel by environmentalist Daniel Quinn and by former Vice President Al Gore's documentary "An Inconvenient Truth."

A lengthy posting which could be seen Wednesday on a website registered to Lee expressed anger against the Discovery Channel and said it promoted overpopulation.

He said it and its affiliates should stop "encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants." Instead, he said, the network should air "programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility."

"NO MORE BABIES! Population growth is a real crisis," he wrote.

TPM

Sounds like he could've worked at Planned Parenthood too!

[punked]

More information from TPM.

Sounds like he could've worked at Planned Parenthood too!

Here is the second part to that statement from thinkprogress.

" (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)"

Sounds like a teapartier to me Shady.

[Shady]

Here is the second part to that statement from thinkprogress.

" (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)"

Sounds like a teapartier to me Shady.

LOL. You wish!

[punked]

LOL. You wish!

I am pointing out your simplifying is making you look stuipd. This man is clearly unstable but preaches some VERY RIGHT WING STUFF. Like stopping immigration (not an enviromentalist stance) the stopping of aid to the third world (something the left wing would never say). So you look stuipd when you make stuipd statements based on half the story.

[Shady]

Like stopping immigration (not an enviromentalist stance)

Yes it is an environmentalist stance. He couldn't care less about immigration other than because it pollutes the environment. You're making yourself look like a complete idiot.

[punked]

Yes it is an environmentalist stance. He couldn't care less about immigration other than because it pollutes the environment. You're making yourself look like a complete idiot.

Yeah sure Shady sure.

[Bonam]

I think it is obvious that this crazed enviroterrorist does not represent any movement within the US, whether environmentalist, left wing, or right wing.

[punked]

I think it is obvious that this crazed enviroterrorist does not represent any movement within the US, whether environmentalist, left wing, or right wing.

Thank you my point. He made some crazy Rush/Glenn Beck statements while at the same time talking about causes that Al Gore supports. It is a dumb point made by a dumb person.

[Shady]

He made some crazy Rush/Glenn Beck statements

No he didn't. Read what he wrote online. He was a total lefty, inspired by the likes of Al Gore. Deal with it.

[Shady]

I think it is obvious that this crazed enviroterrorist does not represent any movement within the US

You're quite mistaken. There are many militant enironmentalist groups in the US. One in particular is the earth liberation front.

[capricorn]

This man is clearly unstable but preaches some VERY RIGHT WING STUFF. Like stopping immigration (not an enviromentalist stance) the stopping of aid to the third world (something the left wing would never say).

The capitalist side of right wingers don't see humans as parasites. Capitalists know the value of humans in the production process and their worth in an industrialized society. A look back into recent history hints at the origin of the theory of aversion to people and the ideal that humans inflict grievous damage to the environment.

It is people such as Maurice Strong, Mikhail Gorbachev, Al Gore, and Ted Turner that are at the forefront of the UN's environmental/depopulation agenda, at least at the visible/gofer level. The four are also members of, or have close connections to the Club of Rome. It is the Club of Rome that has been guiding the environmental movement since its creation at the Rockefellers' estate in Bellagio, Italy in 1968. It's aim is to reduce a large majority of the global population, as well as manufacture crisis through which the world can be "united" under a one world government, as was admitted in their 1991 publication, titled The First Global Revolution.

Strong, along with Mikhail Gorbachev, is also at the forefront of the New Age movement being promoted from the highest levels of the UN. The purpose of the New Age movement since its introduction to mainstream culture by people such as Madame Blavatsky and Alice Bailey (the founder of Lucis Trust) has been to destroy Christianity, which is to be replaced by a new (but in reality very old) earth-based religion. This all ties in with the green agenda of depopulation, because the religion of Gaia worship sees mankind as a sort of parasite to earth. So what we have is a new religion, for a new system of control, for the New Age of Aquarius.

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Strong's twisted little fantasy is a perfect example of the deranged, psychopathic mentality of these elitists. These people see the general public as cattle, and much of the public truly are like cows waiting in line to be slaughtered, blissfully unaware of anything other than the reality they're fed through the TV. We are now at the tail-end of what began (in terms of Western deindustrialization) as the post-industrial era of the 70s. Now that most of the United States' manufacturing capabilities have been sent abroad, the US (along with much of the West) is a predominately consumer nation riddled with debt and a deliberately devalued currency. The long-term goal of the elite has been to destroy the US economy (which will no doubt be felt across the board), because to bring in their new system they must destroy the old one. The planned chaos that will ensue will be used as the pretext to usher in a more controlled system and to implement the plans laid out in Agenda 21. When people like Clinton, Gore, and Strong speak about a slowing of the economy to "save the environment," they are conditioning us to a grim reality that lies ahead -- one in which they and their masters have been planning for a very long time.

http://sovereignsentience.blogspot.com/2008/02/recently-when-new-world-orderly-bill_11.html

That's the kind of crap this madman was into. This isn't about right wing or left wing punked. Lee was an enviro-nut, spurred on by the likes of Gore and Strong.

[Shwa]

That's the kind of crap this madman was into. This isn't about right wing or left wing punked. Lee was an enviro-nut, spurred on by the likes of Gore and Strong.

Damn good thing he wasn't a schizophrenic spurred on by the likes of God and the Devil. Then we would really have a problem wouldn't we?

[punked]

No he didn't. Read what he wrote online. He was a total lefty, inspired by the likes of Al Gore. Deal with it.

Oh I read it Shady.

Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it. Call for people in the world to develop solutions to stop it completely and permanently. Find solutions FOR these countries so they stop sending their breeding populations to the US and the world to seek jobs and therefore breed more unwanted pollution babies. FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO STOP THEIR HUMAN GROWTH AND THE EXPORTATION OF THAT DISGUSTING FILTH! (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)

Sounds pretty right in the spirit of Beck and Rush for sure.

[waldo]

http://sovereignsentience.blogspot.com/2008/02/recently-when-new-world-orderly-bill_11.html

That's the kind of crap this madman was into. This isn't about right wing or left wing punked. Lee was an enviro-nut, spurred on by the likes of Gore and Strong.

setting aside the demented nature of the hostage taker... just what allows you to make this grand leap... what's your basis? About all that's out there is a manifesto (available here). Again... specifically... what premise allows you to align this obviously sick individual's thinking/state of mind to your referenced link? What are you pulling out of that manifesto (or your ass) in making your assessment?

[kimmy]

I assume this thread title is intended as a parody of the guy who blamed the NY mosque protests for the attack on the Muslim cabbie.

Because the logic makes about as much sense.

-k

[punked]

I assume this thread title is intended as a parody of the guy who blamed the NY mosque protests for the attack on the Muslim cabbie.

Because the logic makes about as much sense.

-k

Crazies are crazy.

Edited September 2, 2010 by punked

[capricorn]

What are you pulling out of that manifesto (or your ass) in making your assessment?

Oh waldo, you're so predictable. A good cup of chamomile tea would surely calm you down.

[waldo]

http://sovereignsentience.blogspot.com/2008/02/recently-when-new-world-orderly-bill_11.html

That's the kind of crap this madman was into. This isn't about right wing or left wing punked. Lee was an enviro-nut, spurred on by the likes of Gore and Strong.

setting aside the demented nature of the hostage taker... just what allows you to make this grand leap... what's your basis? About all that's out there is a manifesto (available here). Again... specifically... what premise allows you to align this obviously sick individual's thinking/state of mind to your referenced link? What are you pulling out of that manifesto (or your ass) in making your assessment?

Oh waldo, you're so predictable. A good cup of chamomile tea would surely calm you down.

calm down? Don't you be worrying - I'm quite calm, thank you very much. But really, c'mon... yours is such a pathetic deflection, hey Granny? What's predictable is you unable/unwilling to substantiate your writings. Obviously you've had limited (no?) input into any of the past years related "environmental" themed threads... I certainly can't recall anything you've posted. Out of the blue you trumpet some wild-ass association between a lunatic hostage takers actions/manifesto and the link/quote you offered from a 2+ year old blog article. Clearly, something steered you to that blog article... something you're obviously wary of using to attempt to support and substantiate your baseless statement/claim, now that you've been called out on it. Besides, as punked called it - "crazies are crazy"... only someone of suspect intent would presume to attempt to analyze an individuals mindset based on limited news release references or a rambling disjointed "manifesto"... equally, only someone of diminished intellect would presume to start a MLW thread and leverage the event as a blatant attack against environmentalists.

[capricorn]

Obviously you've had limited (no?) input into any of the past years related "environmental" themed threads... I certainly can't recall anything you've posted.

I avoid threads where you are a major contributor.

equally, only someone of diminished intellect blah blah

Your posts are peppered with personal insults. Is this because you suffer an inferiority complex?

[waldo]

I avoid threads where you are a major contributor.

Your posts are peppered with personal insults. Is this because you suffer an inferiority complex?

other than your personalized response, will you step-up and substantiate your baseless claim and association to your offered quote/link? Are you really surprised your ambulance chase was called out?

[lukin]

This nut represents what the green agenda is all about. Greenpeace, World Wildlife Fund members....this is how they think.

[Shwa]

This nut represents what the green agenda is all about. Greenpeace, World Wildlife Fund members....this is how they think.

Yeah, sure it is. Just like schizos represent religion and depressives represent the dark. That's "how they think."

[lukin]

Yeah, sure it is. Just like schizos represent religion and depressives represent the dark. That's "how they think."

Spin, spin , spin. People are waking up to the agenda of the eco-nuts.