'Everybody Draw Muhammad Day' Advocate Rattled by Death Threat

[lictor616]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/12/death-threats-rattle-everybody-draw-muhammad-day-advocate/

"The creator of a now-defunct “Everybody Draw Muhammad Day” page on Facebook fears she may be targeted for death now that the cartoonist who launched the online campaign has been placed on an execution list by a radical Yemeni-American cleric.

The 27-year-old Facebook page creator—a Canadian woman who asked not to be identified due to fears of reprisal—told FoxNews.com that she was visited at her home last week by Royal Canadian Mounted Police officials who advised her to remove her page and not to talk to reporters.

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The woman created her version of “Everybody Draw Muhammad” in late April, days after a Seattle cartoonist launched the online campaign to protest Comedy Central’s censoring of an episode of “South Park,” in which the Prophet Muhammad was depicted wearing a bear costume. The Canadian woman said she will no longer act as the administrator of such a page."

so much for the apogee of liberal resistance!

hey so where are all the liberals who assured us that Muslim extremism was under control thanks to this? I remember participating in a thread on this topic 3 months ago..

Edited July 17, 2010 by lictor616

[bloodyminded]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/12/death-threats-rattle-everybody-draw-muhammad-day-advocate/

"The creator of a now-defunct “Everybody Draw Muhammad Day” page on Facebook fears she may be targeted for death now that the cartoonist who launched the online campaign has been placed on an execution list by a radical Yemeni-American cleric.

The 27-year-old Facebook page creator—a Canadian woman who asked not to be identified due to fears of reprisal—told FoxNews.com that she was visited at her home last week by Royal Canadian Mounted Police officials who advised her to remove her page and not to talk to reporters.

{snip}

The woman created her version of “Everybody Draw Muhammad” in late April, days after a Seattle cartoonist launched the online campaign to protest Comedy Central’s censoring of an episode of “South Park,” in which the Prophet Muhammad was depicted wearing a bear costume. The Canadian woman said she will no longer act as the administrator of such a page."

so much for the apogee of liberal resistance!

hey so where are all the liberals who assured us that Muslim extremism was under control thanks to this? I remember participating in a thread on this topic 3 months ago..

Many Muslims who objected to the idea of drawing Mohammad simply went around drawing boxing gloves on the sketches, so that it signified the boxer rather than the prophet. (Now THAT'S the civilized way to protest...with non-violence and a touch of humour.)

The radicals do not speak for the majority.

Did you know that Noam Chomsky routinely receives death threats when he goes on speaking tours? I think we can assume that most come from the political Right.

So the issue is not as gargantuan, nor as specific, as your panic suggests.

[DogOnPorch]

Did you know that Noam Chomsky routinely receives death threats when he goes on speaking tours? I think we can assume that most come from the political Right.

Yeah...the Unabomber.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Many Muslims who objected to the idea of drawing Mohammad simply went around drawing boxing gloves on the sketches, so that it signified the boxer rather than the prophet. (Now THAT'S the civilized way to protest...with non-violence and a touch of humour.)

The radicals do not speak for the majority.

Did you know that Noam Chomsky routinely receives death threats when he goes on speaking tours? I think we can assume that most come from the political Right.

So the issue is not as gargantuan, nor as specific, as your panic suggests.

Please provide some recent examples of left wing speakers/writers/cartoonists being shut down and or killed by people they disagree with.

[lictor616]

Many Muslims who objected to the idea of drawing Mohammad simply went around drawing boxing gloves on the sketches, so that it signified the boxer rather than the prophet. (Now THAT'S the civilized way to protest...with non-violence and a touch of humour.)

The radicals do not speak for the majority.

Did you know that Noam Chomsky routinely receives death threats when he goes on speaking tours? I think we can assume that most come from the political Right.

So the issue is not as gargantuan, nor as specific, as your panic suggests.

Noam Chomsky is beloved by many to the right, the supremely erudite Professor Revilo Pendleton Oliver, once wrote this about him in the 80's, http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/chomsky.htm

Doctor William luther Pierce, leader of the National Alliance (a hard right organization) promoted his books on many issues concerning propaganda and Israel, he spoke well of him and cited him often...

Chomsky after all is one of the most honest academics alive today, he isn't perfect, he gets a bit kooky at times, but he encourages debate with anyone and opposes censorship.

The only groups that I could see hating him, are Zionist... or maybe crazed evangelical christians... (who are more left wing authoritarian then right)

I happen to think that Chomsky`s real value is as a professor in Linguistics, but even I cannot bring myself to feel any antipathy towards the man despite my comparatively right wing leanings.

Edited July 17, 2010 by lictor616

[bloodyminded]

Please provide some recent examples of left wing speakers/writers/cartoonists being shut down and or killed by people they disagree with.

If you're serious about this question, then I don't think it outrageous to assume that people of the left have a pretty difficult time of it in certain Muslim countries.

Is your concern about radical Islamists so politicized that you think they're a bunch of lefties trying to kill conservatives? Hell, they are arch-conservatives.

Or are you, as I suspect, only talking about "important" people being killed...Westerners????

[Bonam]

Noam Chomsky is beloved by many to the right, the supremely erudite Professor Revilo Pendleton Oliver, once wrote this about him in the 80's, http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/chomsky.htm

Doctor William luther Pierce, leader of the National Alliance (a hard right organization) promoted his books on many issues concerning propaganda and Israel, he spoke well of him and cited him often...

Chomsky after all is one of the most honest academics alive today, he isn't perfect, he gets a bit kooky at times, but he encourages debate with anyone and opposes censorship.

The only groups that I could see hating him, are Zionist... or maybe crazed evangelical christians... (who are more left wing authoritarian then right)

I happen to think that Chomsky`s real value is as a professor in Linguistics, but even I cannot bring myself to feel any antipathy towards the man despite my comparatively right wing leanings.

Chomsky is a crazy whose ideas are nothing more than an inconsistent mix of anarchism and socialism. I'm sure he's probably ok in his field of linguistics since he's an MIT prof, but his opinions on political philosophy are worthless.

[Jack Weber]

Chomsky is a crazy whose ideas are nothing more than an inconsistent mix of anarchism and socialism. I'm sure he's probably ok in his field of linguistics since he's an MIT prof, but his opinions on political philosophy are worthless.

So when Chomsky talks about the increasing corporatization of society on a global scale,and the pitfalls that might lead us all into as it relates to sovreignty and standard of living,he's "crazy"?

[Bonam]

So when Chomsky talks about the increasing corporatization of society on a global scale,and the pitfalls that might lead us all into as it relates to sovreignty and standard of living,he's "crazy"?

I dunno, got a quote? That being said, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[lictor616]

Chomsky is a crazy whose ideas are nothing more than an inconsistent mix of anarchism and socialism. I'm sure he's probably ok in his field of linguistics since he's an MIT prof, but his opinions on political philosophy are worthless.

Chomsky isn`t crazy, while I agree with some of his anarchist leanings (namely the goal of creating a society completely free from government regimentation) I doubt that his socialist leanings are the way from here to there. ANd sometimes you do see him get all glassy eyed about world peace and McCarthyism (even if McCarthy was largely correct)... He is BY FAR the most honest (perhaps the only honest) speaker left of center...

He is owed credit... no matter where you are on the political spectrum...

[Bonam]

He is BY FAR the most honest (perhaps the only honest) speaker left of center...

He is owed credit... no matter where you are on the political spectrum...

Takes more than just honesty to deserve respect. Need at least some measure of sense as well. I find it interesting that you have such a high regard for Chomsky considering your frequent denouncement and apparent hatred of leftist ideology. Perhaps your view of him is ameliorated simply because of his anti-Israeli stance?

[Jack Weber]

Takes more than just honesty to deserve respect. Need at least some measure of sense as well. I find it interesting that you have such a high regard for Chomsky considering your frequent denouncement and apparent hatred of leftist ideology. Perhaps your view of him is ameliorated simply because of his anti-Israeli stance?

That's it,is'nt it???

He's not a global free marketeer,eschews corporatism,and,questions the hard line stance of the Israeli government....

...So,in your free market,pro-Israel,libertarian mind that makes him crazy...

By the way,you should know by now that I'm no fan of the Hamas apologists,lest you think I'm like Ms.Glover...

[Bonam]

That's it,is'nt it???

He's not a global free marketeer,eschews corporatism,and,questions the hard line stance of the Israeli government....

...So,in your free market,pro-Israel,libertarian mind that makes him crazy...

What makes him crazy is his anarchist leanings and advocacy thereof.

[Jack Weber]

What makes him crazy is his anarchist leanings and advocacy thereof.

So....That would be a "yes" to the anti global free market stuff?

In otherwords,his advocacy for local ownership of businesses that could better provide niche products?

It's a version of Anarcho-Syndicalism,it's not exactly "Anarchy".

But that's just "crazy" talk?

[lictor616]

So....That would be a "yes" to the anti global free market stuff?

In otherwords,his advocacy for local ownership of businesses that could better provide niche products?

It's a version of Anarcho-Syndicalism,it's not exactly "Anarchy".

But that's just "crazy" talk?

that's actually closer to national syndicalism, or Italian Fascism

[bloodyminded]

Chomsky is a crazy whose ideas are nothing more than an inconsistent mix of anarchism and socialism. I'm sure he's probably ok in his field of linguistics since he's an MIT prof, but his opinions on political philosophy are worthless.

I don't know enough about the field of linguistics to make any judgement call (and I know that linguists often disagree with one another), but he is broadly regarded as the most important linguist of the past half-century.

I'm not too sure about his political philosophy--the anarchism is not something I can see as a credible alternative (though, to be fair, he is not an "advocate" for anarchism...he seriously questions how it could be possible on any large scale, and has rather fallen out with many anarchists on the matter of it's possibilities for success.) But he does adhere to a more basic, overriding political philosophy, in which he's in philosophical agreement with everyone who is genuinely democratically-minded.

His main concerns are of abuses of power. While his analyses and conclusions are often controversial (at times without deserving to be, in my view), his intent is pretty mainstream.

[bloodyminded]

The only groups that I could see hating him, are Zionist... or maybe crazed evangelical christians... (who are more left wing authoritarian then right)

The majority of the political Right, or at least the paid vocal sectors, despises him; they can't stand him. Some conservative commentators are livid at everything he says, and their detestation is near obssessive levels.

For that matter, a lot of mainstream liberals and centrists can't stand him either, since he has spent so much of his energy attacking them on matters of foreign policy, denouncing Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton with as much fervour as he has critiqued Reagan and Bush Jr. (even as he broadly agrees with the mainstream liberals on social domestic issues.)

[lictor616]

The majority of the political Right, or at least the paid vocal sectors, despises him; they can't stand him. Some conservative commentators are livid at everything he says, and their detestation is near obssessive levels.

For that matter, a lot of mainstream liberals and centrists can't stand him either, since he has spent so much of his energy attacking them on matters of foreign policy, denouncing Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton with as much fervour as he has critiqued Reagan and Bush Jr. (even as he broadly agrees with the mainstream liberals on social domestic issues.)

I do not represent the "mainstream right", but perhaps you could give me a few suggestive examples? I'm aware of the liberal attacks on him, which amount to accusation of anti-semetism and holocaust denial... as ridiculous as that is. but I have never heard any right wing (nationalist) element voicing any antipathy towards him.

fox news is a bit pro jesus ... which disqualifies them as true right wingers.

[bloodyminded]

I do not represent the "mainstream right", but perhaps you could give me a few suggestive examples? I'm aware of the liberal attacks on him, which amount to accusation of anti-semetism and holocaust denial... as ridiculous as that is. but I have never heard any right wing (nationalist) element voicing any antipathy towards him.

Examples?

Pick any one aside from the single source you mentioned, and there's an odds-on chance that he or she detests Chomsky...and porbbaly with great vitriol.

To take the more well-known examples: David Horowitz, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Pat Buchanan, George Will, Richard Perle, Samuel Huntington....

Well, the list goes on forever. All of these folks think Chomsky is almost entirely wrong, and some of them openly detest him for his baleful sins.

[Shwa]

Chomsky is a crazy whose ideas are nothing more than an inconsistent mix of anarchism and socialism. I'm sure he's probably ok in his field of linguistics since he's an MIT prof, but his opinions on political philosophy are worthless.

Yes because, you know, how we form symbolic expression, constitute words and use language to stir and manipulate, is practically a useless skill when it comes to political philosophy.

[DogOnPorch]

Chomsky stopped being a historian as soon as he decided to be a political activist...somewhere/sometime during the Summer of Love.

[bloodyminded]

Chomsky stopped being a historian as soon as he decided to be a political activist...somewhere/sometime during the Summer of Love.

1964 was not the Summer of Love.

[DogOnPorch]

1964 was not the Summer of Love.

The Responsibility of Intellectuals came out in 1967.

[bloodyminded]

The Responsibility of Intellectuals came out in 1967.

He became a political activist (the term you use) against American actions in Vietnam in '64, not '67.

[DogOnPorch]

He became a political activist (the term you use) against American actions in Vietnam in '64, not '67.

Again: His essay, The Responsibility of Intellectuals came out in 1967. This was his first big rant about Viet-nam. Again: the year was 1967. America was only in Viet-Nam as advisors in 1964 (had been since 1959). The USMC arrived in Da Nang in 1965 starting the 'official' US portion of the war.