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It scores me Canadian...

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 50%

Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 40%

According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is...

RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS

If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us

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Wow!

Totally Libertarian!

Personal 100%

Economic 90%

Take that, all you folks that keep insisting I'm a Conservative! :P

"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

-- George Bernard Shaw

"There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."

Posted

Wow!

Totally Libertarian!

Personal 100%

Economic 90%

Take that, all you folks that keep insisting I'm a Conservative! :P

Many people who call themselves libertarians do so from a self-indulgent desire to look "independent"...when they're not libertarians, but actually statist conservatives.

Others are no doubt sincere, but simply don't know what "libertarian" really means. (For one thing, it demands that you support people's freedom to do things you might personally really, really dislike.)

You, however, may well be the real deal, Mr. Wild. (I'm not being sarcastic, by the way.)

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

--Josh Billings

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Many people who call themselves libertarians do so from a self-indulgent desire to look "independent"...when they're not libertarians, but actually statist conservatives.

Others are no doubt sincere, but simply don't know what "libertarian" really means. (For one thing, it demands that you support people's freedom to do things you might personally really, really dislike.)

You, however, may well be the real deal, Mr. Wild. (I'm not being sarcastic, by the way.)

Libertarians used to be located on the left side of the political spectrum until the thirties when the socialists, communists and big government advocates took over. This squeezed the Libertarian over to the right side of the political spectrum and they are often confused as "statist conservatives". Conservatives are about the status quo or are anti-progressive reactionaries. they aren't necessarily about limited or small government, as is the Libertarian.

I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.

Posted

Libertarians used to be located on the left side of the political spectrum until the thirties when the socialists, communists and big government advocates took over. This squeezed the Libertarian over to the right side of the political spectrum and they are often confused as "statist conservatives". Conservatives are about the status quo or are anti-progressive reactionaries. they aren't necessarily about limited or small government, as is the Libertarian.

Then what is an Anarcho-Syndicalist?

They seem to line up on the left and are definately libertarian...

The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!

Posted

You, however, may well be the real deal, Mr. Wild. (I'm not being sarcastic, by the way.)

'Real deal'? Maybe, Mr. B.! I've been told often enough to 'get real!' so maybe it's happened! :P

I dunno if you read classic scifi but the great writer Robert Heinlein wrote in one of his books called "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" about a character who classified himself as a 'rational anarchist'. Such a person believed that he was totally responsible for his own actions and thus would NOT accept any law as absolute. He would always make his own decision as to what was the moral and/or ethical action for him to do in any situation.

When asked if he would be totally lawless he replied "Not at all! Tell me specifically which law you are talking about!" In other words, most of the time the result would be that he appeared a lawfully minded citizen but actually, if he ever found himself in a situation where the law conflicted with his own moral compass he not only would not follow it, he would never take the legal way out and excuse any harm resulting from doing so. To him "I obeyed the law!" was no excuse if it meant his action actually caused harm. If a rational anarchist had a wife dying of an incurable disease, suffering in untreatable pain, he wouldn't think twice about helping her with euthanasia, regardless of what the law said. If that meant he might be charged and sent to prison he would accept that, since helping his wife was his first moral priority and following the law not at all.

This is quite different of course from the garden variety anarchist, who believes that he can do whatever the hell he wants and damn the consequences.

i don't know if I actually am a rational anarchist, but I sure respect the idea!

"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

-- George Bernard Shaw

"There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."

Posted

Well...That was short :huh:

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 100%

Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 60%

According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is...

Libertarians support maximum liberty in both personal and economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence. Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.

''Thank god I'm an Atheist !''

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Then what is an Anarcho-Syndicalist?

They seem to line up on the left and are definately libertarian...

They do indeed line up on the left.

Wikipedia

Up to the First World War and the Russian Revolution, anarcho-syndicalist unions and organizations were the dominant actors in the revolutionary left.

I wouldn't call them Libertarian if they were against the ownership of private property. Libertarianism did come out of the concept of anarchism and they are in most parts of the world today considered equivalent.

Libertarian socialism (seems an oxymoron to me) exists and is more or less a workers ideology in that it is against coercive government and corporatism or the capitalist system.

The origination of the left-right political spectrum had everyone sitting on the left and the Conservatives, the maintainers of the status quo, sat on the right side of Parliament. This was in France by the way. The Rousseau socialists, the liberals, the anarchists and any other reformer all sat on the left side of parliament.

Anyway, I like to think of Libertarianism as being what replaced old classical liberalism. Liberty and freedom of the individual and a minimal state.

I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.

Posted

They do indeed line up on the left.

Wikipedia

I wouldn't call them Libertarian if they were against the ownership of private property. Libertarianism did come out of the concept of anarchism and they are in most parts of the world today considered equivalent.

Libertarian socialism (seems an oxymoron to me) exists and is more or less a workers ideology in that it is against coercive government and corporatism or the capitalist system.

The origination of the left-right political spectrum had everyone sitting on the left and the Conservatives, the maintainers of the status quo, sat on the right side of Parliament. This was in France by the way. The Rousseau socialists, the liberals, the anarchists and any other reformer all sat on the left side of parliament.

Anyway, I like to think of Libertarianism as being what replaced old classical liberalism. Liberty and freedom of the individual and a minimal state.

Just because one does'nt approve of private property owenership does'nt mean they are'nt libertarians...

For example...The Anarcho-Sydicalists in Spain were'nt really leftists in the Republican sense.They eschewed the authoritarian ways of the Marxists,and in fact,were'nt particularily fond of the social democrats in charge of the Republican side.They really did'nt like centralized government of any type.In fact,they stopped using money in Barcelona for a time because it ended the classism they rejected.Collectivist,in a mass movement sense is not the correct term describing them...Co-operative would be a better one.

But they seem to be libertarians to me...No big government and leave me alone...They're just libertarians who line up on the left..

The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!

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Just because one does'nt approve of private property owenership does'nt mean they are'nt libertarians...

For example...The Anarcho-Sydicalists in Spain were'nt really leftists in the Republican sense.They eschewed the authoritarian ways of the Marxists,and in fact,were'nt particularily fond of the social democrats in charge of the Republican side.They really did'nt like centralized government of any type.In fact,they stopped using money in Barcelona for a time because it ended the classism they rejected.Collectivist,in a mass movement sense is not the correct term describing them...Co-operative would be a better one.

But they seem to be libertarians to me...No big government and leave me alone...They're just libertarians who line up on the left..

What you say is true.

If you read that wiki quote it says that only in the US has Libertarianism been identified with classical liberalism. The rest of the world, and some American libertarians, still thinks of it in terms of anarchism.

I am a minarchist libertarian not fully in line with the elimination of a national government or nations but with a very restricted mandate.

I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.

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I am a minarchist libertarian not fully in line with the elimination of a national government or nations but with a very restricted mandate.

I feel like I have said hello to myself. :)

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Theres something a bit wrong there...

The answers I chose would reflect the way things have worked in almost every successful democracy in history (with the exception of ending drug prohibition). Yet it put me way on the left end of the scale.

Im wondering how the center is determined.

The center is determined by clicking "maybe". I clicked "maybe" on all responses and got dead center bullseye on the scale.

I don't think this quiz is fully accurate, but seems to work ok.

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain

Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.

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