GostHacked Posted June 21, 2010 Report Posted June 21, 2010 Couldnt a competitor to ICANN emerge if was able to attract enough resolvers to to point at their root and TLDS, and eventually become authoritative in the same way ICANNs 13 machines are? Is the problem that it would be impossible to build the consensus required? How would you adopt it to work with the existing internet? Quote
dre Posted June 21, 2010 Report Posted June 21, 2010 How would you adopt it to work with the existing internet? Through a campaign to register your root in all the resolvers. The only thing that makes ICANN authoritative is that all the DNS resolvers clone the data from its servers. DNS resolvers can pull data from other places as well, and often do. The challenge would be to build universal consensus that your system has value. The more resolvers you can convince the more users will be able to resolve your names. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
bjre Posted June 21, 2010 Report Posted June 21, 2010 Before we go too far down this road, you might need to be reminded that most of the infrastructure of the Internet, basic protocols and such, were in fact invented by Americans working for the American government, and at least initial roll-outs were pretty much completely funded by the American government. Those protocols and standards were adopted by other countries, but certain core infrastructure functions remained in American hands. As to the rest of your post, well, it's just a bunch non-sequiturs strung together. You're giving me a pretty good picture of the penis envy the Chinese have for the US, though. Yes, American companies define the protocols, and standards, and force others to use it, and kill other standards, and make lots of that to be confidential. So that only small number of companies profit from it. What they did is just the same as what Apple did, who tell others that flash is slow but just make Mac OS X does not expose access to the required APIs for hardware accelerator. http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/does_html5_really_beat_flash_surprising_results_of_new_tests.php . That is what they always did. Countless standards and system had been killed by US companies, include Europe Galileo satellite system, which is almost killed. In this way they make huge profit that are more than any explicit robbery. Quote "The more laws, the less freedom" -- bjre "There are so many laws that nearly everybody breaks some, even when you just stay at home do nothing, the only question left is how thugs can use laws to attack you" -- bjre "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 21, 2010 Report Posted June 21, 2010 Yes, American companies define the protocols, and standards, and force others to use it, and kill other standards, and make lots of that to be confidential. So that only small number of companies profit from it. Nobody forced to use...make your own internet. What they did is just the same as what Apple did, who tell others that flash is slow but just make Mac OS X does not expose access to the required APIs for hardware accelerator. Too bad...no can copy Apple. Make own. That is what they always did. Countless standards and system had been killed by US companies, include Europe Galileo satellite system, which is almost killed. In this way they make huge profit that are more than any explicit robbery. Correct...Chines just copy Americans...even copy mistakes. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bjre Posted June 21, 2010 Report Posted June 21, 2010 Correct...Chines just copy Americans...even copy mistakes. American use paper and printing technology, both the 2 technologies are copy from China. Quote "The more laws, the less freedom" -- bjre "There are so many laws that nearly everybody breaks some, even when you just stay at home do nothing, the only question left is how thugs can use laws to attack you" -- bjre "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 21, 2010 Report Posted June 21, 2010 American use paper and printing technology, both the 2 technologies are copy from China. No....China steal ideas from Egypt. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted June 21, 2010 Report Posted June 21, 2010 No....China steal ideas from Egypt. Pointless. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 21, 2010 Report Posted June 21, 2010 Pointless. I know...but fun to play with bjre. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 22, 2010 Report Posted June 22, 2010 Because we dont live in a vacuum, and because Americans are our neighbors. I want people all over the world to be able to use the internet as they have been, and if you allow carriers to arbitrarily block content then the landscape will change in a way that harms consumers. Americans as "your neighbors" is irrelevant in an "all over the world" context for the Internet. The "landscape" changed because the Americans changed it to begin with, and if America decides to regulate via FCC classification it is long overdue: The FCC has examined three different ways to classify broadband Internet service and providers. The vote on Thursday will enable the FCC to continue its inquest into how best to classify and regulate the Web. The FCC wants to specifically look at whether broadband Internet should continue to be classified as an "information service;" or if its classification should change to a "telecommunication service." There is also a possible "third way" which would leave Internet content and applications unregulated under the Federal Communications Act, identifying wired broadband service as a telecommunications service. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted June 22, 2010 Report Posted June 22, 2010 I know...but fun to play with bjre. I was referring to yourself. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 22, 2010 Report Posted June 22, 2010 I was referring to yourself. You always do....no autographs please! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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