Jack Weber Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Jack you are the problem. Do you still want to come and hang me, for my political opinions? For a constitution and charter you hold so high you seem to have forgotten the fundamental rights enshrined in the document. Not yet... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 So what is the core of the issue? What exactly is Alberta suffering from? Is it terminal? Western alienation...(see we have to share our oil money) WAH WAH WAH!!!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Alberta isn't the only province that is a net contributor to equalization payments, the rest of us just don't bitch so much. You do realize that one Jack Webber is advocating that Albertans should be hung, right because we are airing our grievences. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 (edited) Western alienation...(see we have to share our oil money) WAH WAH WAH!!!! Edited June 1, 2010 by Alta4ever Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Jack Weber Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 You do realize that one Jack Webber is advocating that Albertans should be hung, right because we are airing our grievences. You do realize that traitors who advocate for secession should be hung,shot,etc... That's what you've intimated... As I said,you sound like someone right out of the States Rights arguement circa 1861,South Carolina.... How'd that work out? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Western alienation...(see we have to share our oil money) WAH WAH WAH!!!! Jack are you coming to hang the Albertans? You posted it, come on man tell us how you really feel. Are you going to cleanse Canada of those who do not share your ideological views. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Jack Weber Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Jack are you coming to hang the Albertans? You posted it, come on man tell us how you really feel. Are you going to cleanse Canada of those who do not share your ideological views. Nope... Traitors are triators... And you advocated for secession... What reponse were you looking for? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 You do realize that traitors who advocate for secession should be hung,shot,etc... That's what you've intimated... As I said,you sound like someone right out of the States Rights arguement circa 1861,South Carolina.... How'd that work out? So what are you going to do with the Bloc, Jack, what do you think should be Done with Gile Duceppe? Are you going to say the same of them? Come on man the real you is coming through loud and clear. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Nope... Traitors are triators... And you advocated for secession... What reponse were you looking for? Jack Webber's quotes tonight My sincerest hope is that you are on the business end of a bayonette,or are hanging on the end of a rope... Well,a forced march of Albertan secessionists into the mountians where you can survive on Mountian Goat hide and moss,while YOUR "country" is gentrified sounds like a great idea to me... What a rational person you Jack or should I say Mr. Jack boot. You have some real problems Jack. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 So what is the core of the issue? What exactly is Alberta suffering from? Is it terminal? We are not looked at as an equal partner in confederation, it is more like a parent child role. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Jack Weber Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Jack Webber's quotes tonight What a rational person you Jack or should I say Mr. Jack boot. You have some real problems Jack. I have real problems with secessionists... I suspect some her have the same problems,they just won't articulate as harsh a position. That's fine,they're entitled to that opinion... In my opinion,secesh needs to be simply wiped out,no arguement,no discussion...It's called patriotism. You advocated for it..You,and your ilk,will have to deal the consequences of those actions... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 (edited) So what are you going to do with the Bloc, Jack, what do you think should be Done with Gile Duceppe? Are you going to say the same of them? Come on man the real you is coming through loud and clear. First if all,the Bloc is nothing but alot of bluster,and everyone knows it.Secession is dying in Quebec. As far as the subject of secession in this country goes,I'll let this guy tell it for me... This is precisely how you deal with it... Edited June 1, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 I have real problems with secessionists... I suspect some her have the same problems,they just won't articulate as harsh a position. That's fine,they're entitled to that opinion... In my opinion,secesh needs to be simply wiped out,no arguement,no discussion...It's called patriotism. You advocated for it..You,and your ilk,will have to deal the consequences of those actions... You don't think I feel patriotism Jack. My family has bled for this country jack. I have sworn allegiance to the Queen and country, have you Jack? I don't advocate secession Jack, I warn of it as an outcome because of the way regional politics are played in this country Jack. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 This is precisely how you deal with it... Thats how you deal with it is it? It seems that under his watch that fringe group grew and grew. That was a lesson on how not to deal with it. When the Canadian Labor Minister was killed by a FLQ bomb, the Prime Minister of Canada Pierre Trudeau, reacted strongly. His actions, often called “The White Terror” consisted of outlawing some of the groups. He also arrested and incarcerated members of the group without trial. Politicians in the United States praised his oppressive actions as ‘gutsy’.The PQ continued growing in popularity despite the crackdown on the independence/secession groups. The momentum consisted on consistently larger and larger popular votes for the PQ candidates. The growing influence eventually led to the referendum vote of 1980. In that vote, the secession movement attained 40% of the votes needed. Those resisting secession cited economic concerns. The defeat was a setback for the PQ. The PQ again won enough members to have another referendum in 1995. The vote was put to the public. This time the measure was defeated by a slim margin of — 50.6% to 49.4%. When the results were analyzed, the English speakers were opposed and the French speakers were the main supports of the measure. Like many controversial votes, there were reports of irregularities and voter fraud from both sides in the referendum. http://hubpages.com/hub/A-Short-History-of-Secession-in-Quebec Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Guest TrueMetis Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 You do realize that one Jack Webber is advocating that Albertans should be hung, right because we are airing our grievences. Then he's an idiot, that doesn't make your complaints anymore substantial. Quote
Jack Weber Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 (edited) You don't think I feel patriotism Jack. My family has bled for this country jack. I have sworn allegiance to the Queen and country, have you Jack? I don't advocate secession Jack, I warn of it as an outcome because of the way regional politics are played in this country Jack. I would'nt question my patriotism,chief...Because my family has shed enough blood and time,that I don't require that lecture. And you're only warning of secession because you want the rest of this country to give in to Alberta's every libertarian whim,as it relates to oil and gas revenue.In other words,you folks only want things your way irrespective of the rest of the country,and if you don't get it you ruminate about taking your bat and ball and going it alone. I always hear how the West wants in...But it only wants in on it's terms,and if it's not on its terms,they don't want any part of it. Look,either Alberta works within the system for the betterment of the country(that requires comprimise),or it does'nt.It's really that simple... Edited June 1, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 I would'nt question my patriotism,chief...Because my family has shed enough blood and time,that I don't require that lecture. It seems that you do. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Jack Weber Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Thats how you deal with it is it? It seems that under his watch that fringe group grew and grew. That was a lesson on how not to deal with it. http://hubpages.com/hub/A-Short-History-of-Secession-in-Quebec Uh huh..So,if Trudeau does'nt act the way he did in October of 1970.. 1.How emboldened does the FLQ become? 2.If it increases,would you surmise that Quebec would have been like Northern Ireland throughout the '70's and '80's,requiring even harsher responses? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 It seems that you do. You opnely advocated for secession because your province was'nt getting its way... You're damn right I question your patriotism! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Then he's an idiot, that doesn't make your complaints anymore substantial. You do realize that this isn't about arguement of complaint it is about the perception of Alberta's status in confederation. It has been described here as that of the relationship of of child and parent. Alberta is to do as it is told by the rest of Canada and be happy for the opportunity to do it. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Guest TrueMetis Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 You do realize that this isn't about arguement of complaint it is about the perception of Alberta's status in confederation. It has been described here as that of the relationship of of child and parent. Alberta is to do as it is told by the rest of Canada and be happy for the opportunity to do it. If you want to see it that way go for it. Quote
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 Uh huh..So,if Trudeau does'nt act the way he did in October of 1970.. 1.How emboldened does the FLQ become? 2.If it increases,would you surmise that Quebec would have been like Northern Ireland throughout the '70's and '80's,requiring even harsher responses? You don't deal with a kidnapping by instituting marshal law. That is what the police are for. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Jack Weber Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 You don't deal with a kidnapping by instituting marshal law. That is what the police are for. You realize it was Bourrassa who asked Trudeau for the assistance? A kidnapping AND a manifesto detailing the seperatists demands...Having already bombed several buildings during the previous 3 years... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 You opnely advocated for secession because your province was'nt getting its way... I Did no such thing, I merely stated that the break up of the country could be the outcome if this course of regional politics is continued. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Jack Weber Posted June 1, 2010 Report Posted June 1, 2010 I Did no such thing, I merely stated that the break up of the country could be the outcome if this course of regional politics is continued. Backpedaling... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
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