g_bambino Posted November 17, 2009 Report Posted November 17, 2009 YES! congrats I figured you'd be the only one to undertsand... And yet... remembrance day is nothing but a ceremonial glorification for war and the military, much the same mindset that creates war in the first place...when the last WW2 vets are dead so should all the ceremonies die... Quote
g_bambino Posted November 17, 2009 Report Posted November 17, 2009 go to your room, you have no clue... Ah, personal attacks; the last refuge of the loser. Thank you for proving me correct, wyly. Quote
wyly Posted November 17, 2009 Report Posted November 17, 2009 I've got a BSC and a Master's in engineering. I help design water safety monitoring technologies and equipment. water safety monitoring technologies ....what no degree in History? so what gives you the right to be so condescending towards an Arts Graduate with a degree in History, how are you more qualified to give an opinion on history?...that's pure arrogance, intellectual elitism...got a plumbing issue ask a plumber, got history issue ask a Historian not an engineer... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted November 17, 2009 Report Posted November 17, 2009 Ah, personal attacks; the last refuge of the loser. Thank you for proving me correct, wyly. see any of your previous posts for examples of personal attacks...then go to your room... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
g_bambino Posted November 17, 2009 Report Posted November 17, 2009 see any of your previous posts for examples of personal attacks...then go to your room... Still yapping, are you? Quote
dlkenny Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 Hey politics. I definitely think that you should submit this to one of the Sun Media papers. This is exactly the sort of story that they love to print. Don't bother with more reputable papers, as they won't be interested. Some people feel that November 11th is a bit ridiculous, because it glorifies war. I think that in the case of WW I and WW 2, we had a clear and present danger, a real threat to survivial, and our existence. Now, however, the wars that we enter seem to be optional and don't have the moral authority of the World Wars, and there is a sense that we are simply trying to make war seem noble, when in fact, those that go to war are often teens that have few other career options that are bullied into it by recruiters. Canada's military is obviously quite different than that of the US, but even so, the idea that someone is a hero, simply by being in the military is no longer valid. The motives for entering into war are not as pure as they once were. Many Conservatives felt upset that we were not joining the Iraq war - not because they felt it was a just war, but simply because they feared it would harm relations with the US. Trade relations is not a just reason for entering war. I have to disagree on the point about our soldiers not being heroes. I don't like the wars that are going on in the world, I think Afghanistan is a waste of time and resources but I do not take anything away from the soldiers who are there. They are brave for being willing to put their lives on the line for our country and that is very commendable. It's unfortunate that our government seems to think that the men and women in service uniforms are expendable because they are willing to defend the fabric of our society. I think the people in the forces to be deployed to combat only if it is absolutely necessary. On the subject of Rememberance Day, you're right in that people don't seem to care. Young people seem oblivious to it. Those who were involved in Scouts or Cadets or other organizations know and care but I think there's a growing attitude of indifference. It is very sad to see, because as time passes Rememberance Day seems to carry less and less significance in the hearts and minds of Canadians. By the way, that Professor has a moral obligation to at least acknowledge the moment. It's only one minute and I find it very disrespectful that a professor would stand in annoyance at a moment of silence. Quote If you understand, no explanation necessary. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.
capricorn Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 It's unfortunate that our government seems to think that the men and women in service uniforms are expendable because they are willing to defend the fabric of our society. Are you sure you mean government? Initially, it was a Liberal government that committed Canada to a military objective in Afghanistan. Then, the Conservative government extended the mission, with the approval of the Liberals. In both instances, it was a vote in our Parliament that resulted in the deployment of our military to Afghanistan. This is not solely a Conservative government initiative. Of course our Parliament knows that if our troops are deployed to a war zone there will be casualties. Our soldiers are well aware of the dangers yet are willing to put their lives on the line because they believe in the objectives of the mission. It's as simple as that. It is very sad to see, because as time passes Rememberance Day seems to carry less and less significance in the hearts and minds of Canadians. If this was true, how do you explain the ever increasing number of Canadians attending the National ceremonies in Ottawa? A survey also showed a projected increase in participation. Remembrance Day service attendance to be up, survey shows Sixteen per cent of Canadians said they attended an official service in 2008. This year, though, the institute said 26 per cent of descendants of former warriors would attend a service, as would 35 per cent of those related to someone serving currently in the Canadian Forces. Eighty per cent of those surveyed by the institute said they agreed with the concept. Seventy per cent said they agreed "governments at the federal, provincial and municipal levels should make it mandatory, not voluntary, for individuals, schools, workplaces and other venues to observe two minutes of silence on each November 11." http://www.trentonian.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2167567 By the way, that Professor has a moral obligation to at least acknowledge the moment. He might just be that kind of person who doesn't have an opinion on anything. I agree he should just have gone along with showing respect. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Army Guy Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 He might just be that kind of person who doesn't have an opinion on anything. I agree he should just have gone along with showing respect. I agree with you ,He is in a postion of power, respect, and the students where taking thier cue off of him, He could of atleast explained his reasons to the students why he does not follow the tradtion of rememberance....I'd be curious to know what the School policy is for rememberance day. I mean what would it have costed him, 2 mins of his time... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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