Alex Moore Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Question: Assuming that there is an election and that there is another conservative government. Who's most likely replace Iggnatieff as leader of the Liberal party? As far as I can see there really isn't anyone unless Frank McKenna descends from above and resurrects the ashes that is currently the liberal party of Canada. Quote "I am a sick man, I am a spiteful man... My liver hurts" - Dostoevsky
Sir Bandelot Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Its time for them to do what I said they should do before, go after LeBlanc. The liberal party needs a massive overhaul to clean out the dead wood and bring on a new, more youthful leadership. New wine for new skins Quote
M.Dancer Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Its time for them to do what I said they should do before, go after LeBlanc. The liberal party needs a massive overhaul to clean out the dead wood and bring on a new, more youthful leadership. New wine for new skins That may true but it will be Bob Rae. ...who will be replaced by Kennedy...who will be replaced by Trudeau...who will be replaced by a newcomer....in 2019 Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Moonbox Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Oh god. The very idea of Bob Rae or Turdeau running the country revolts me. I'd rather Ignatieff stuck around. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
punked Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Oh god. The very idea of Bob Rae or Turdeau running the country revolts me. I'd rather Ignatieff stuck around. Like it or not at 62 Iggy only has 5 years left in him. Quote
jdobbin Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Question: Assuming that there is an election and that there is another conservative government. Who's most likely replace Iggnatieff as leader of the Liberal party? Who do you think will replace Layton or Harper if they have few seats in an election and a minority persists? Quote
Keepitsimple Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Who do you think will replace Layton or Harper if they have few seats in an election and a minority persists? Back to the thread Dobbs....I genuinely would like your opinion on the next Liberal leader - whether it's in 6 months of 2 or 3 years. Who do you think would be the serious challengers? Quote Back to Basics
Shakeyhands Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Back to the thread Dobbs....I genuinely would like your opinion on the next Liberal leader - whether it's in 6 months of 2 or 3 years. Who do you think would be the serious challengers? Ignatieff has a much better chance fo surviving a loss here, as opposed to Layton or Harper, even if Harper wins another minority. Having said that, WHEN Ignatieff leaves, Rae is the most obvious at this point in time to lead the LPC. I imagine we'll have to wait a number of years to find out who leads after Ignatieff. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Sir Bandelot Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) They need someone who comes across as genuine. Ignatieff is not genuine. He was already stabbing Dion in the back, right there on television he's laughing with the cons as they ridicule his leader. I thought I even heard him slip a jab or two at Dion himself during rousing moments in the house. Canadians will not vote for him because of this. He appears in every way to come across as a political opportunist, not someone genuinely commited to the public service. And appearance, is all that matters in a representative democracy. Specfic issues do not matter. Not even policy, matters to the general public... just charisma. For further info see "Barack Obama" and the cult of personality. Edited September 17, 2009 by Sir Bandelot Quote
Smallc Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Ignatieff will get the normal 2 shots at a win. Dion was....an exceptional case. Quote
Moonbox Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Ignatieff has a much better chance fo surviving a loss here, as opposed to Layton or Harper, even if Harper wins another minority. Having said that, WHEN Ignatieff leaves, Rae is the most obvious at this point in time to lead the LPC. I imagine we'll have to wait a number of years to find out who leads after Ignatieff. Rae wouldn't fly in Ontario. We remember him as premier. I believe he was the most unpopular premier EVER. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Sir Bandelot Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 I imagine we'll have to wait a number of years to find out who leads after Ignatieff. Oh I dunno, he might surprise us. He might decide to go south if he doesn't get his christmas present soon- too much hard work for him... Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 They need someone who comes across as genuine. Ignatieff is not genuine. He was already stabbing Dion in the back, right there on television he's laughing with the cons as they ridicule his leader. I thought I even heard him slip a jab or two at Dion himself during rousing moments in the house. Canadians will not vote for him because of this. He appears in every way to come across as a political opportunist, not someone genuinely commited to the public service.And appearance, is all that matters in a representative democracy. Specfic issues do not matter. Not even policy, matters to the general public... just charisma. For further info see "Barack Obama" and the cult of personality. Nice to see the CPC ads are working on some people. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Topaz Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Yesterday, Iggy wasn't in the House and LeBlanc was the one who took over for him. Not Goodale or Rae, LeBlanc and I think he would be the next leader. He 's a lawyer , he seems very nice and he experience in politics as his family did. The next leader for the Tories I think will be Prentice and NDP, the former Lib from Quebec, Tom?, the newest NDP. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Rae wouldn't fly in Ontario. We remember him as premier. I believe he was the most unpopular premier EVER. funny... not only am I in Ontario, but i was also in University during Rae's tenure, and i would support him in a nano second. Totally different man and circumstance. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Shakeyhands Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Oh I dunno, he might surprise us. He might decide to go south if he doesn't get his christmas present soon- too much hard work for him... not a cent wasted on those stupid ad's... eh? my favourite is still the CPC telling us that Ignatieff wants to propel us in to a "wasteful election". Not like the one we were forced in to last year. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
M.Dancer Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 funny... not only am I in Ontario, but i was also in University during Rae's tenure, and i would support him in a nano second. Totally different man and circumstance. I wouldn't and I voted for Trudeau, Turner, Chretian and Martin. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
capricorn Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 I drew the line after Ti-Jean. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Goat Boy© Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 not a cent wasted on those stupid ad's... eh?my favourite is still the CPC telling us that Ignatieff wants to propel us in to a "wasteful election". Not like the one we were forced in to last year. LOL! Quote
Goat Boy© Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Ignatieff will get the normal 2 shots at a win. Dion was....an exceptional case. Direct result of the failed Coalition. Quote
M.Dancer Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 I think Iggnatief should had his first shot. He fanned ... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Sir Bandelot Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) not a cent wasted on those stupid ad's... eh?my favourite is still the CPC telling us that Ignatieff wants to propel us in to a "wasteful election". Not like the one we were forced in to last year. I'm all for an election... when I see a leader I would vote for. Who knows, I might even vote liberal again some day. Edited September 17, 2009 by Sir Bandelot Quote
Bryan Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Question: Assuming that there is an election and that there is another conservative government. Who's most likely replace Iggnatieff as leader of the Liberal party?As far as I can see there really isn't anyone unless Frank McKenna descends from above and resurrects the ashes that is currently the liberal party of Canada. Ignatieff will lose if he runs in an election, even he knows that full well right now. He'll probably just quit and go back to Harvard instead of lining up just to lose. Rae will probably replace him, but he won't fare any better. McKenna is probably their only legitimate shot in the near future. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 Ignatieff will lose if he runs in an election, even he knows that full well right now. He'll probably just quit and go back to Harvard instead of lining up just to lose. Rae will probably replace him, but he won't fare any better. McKenna is probably their only legitimate shot in the near future. I am willing to bet that folks have not seen the first let alone the last of Iggy. Quote
capricorn Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 I am willing to bet that folks have not seen the first let alone the last of Iggy. After Iggy has been defeated at the polls he certainly will not fade into obscurity. He is our prime intellectual and he has much to offer academia in whatever country he gravitates to. I just don't see a political future for the Count. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
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