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Except that in the past it was a tax and could be spent as the government saw fit. We shouldn't bankrupt the country so we can have a bunch of money sitting in EI for nothing.

Than give it back to the people who paid into it. You want to take money from people you better not lie to them and tell them it is for when they lose their jobs but then never give it too them. You either put that money back in EI or it goes back to those who paid into it. You want to create a payroll tax to pay that off fine do it I bet it wont play well. Might be why the Liberals Lied about it in the first place.

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They did...through government services and reduced debt.

That is called taxes and that is fine, when they don't lie about it. You give the money back to the people or put it back in the EI fund, those are the only options unless you want to tell the people "Yah we lied so what" Seems Liberals are ok with that I am not.

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That is called taxes and that is fine, when they don't lie about it. You give the money back to the people or put it back in the EI fund, those are the only options unless you want to tell the people "Yah we lied so what" Seems Liberals are ok with that I am not.

Except you're wrong, and it's been proven in a court of law. The only thing that was done was raising the rates without going through parliament. Why was that wrong? Because the judge said it was a tax. It's not anymore.

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Except you're wrong, and it's been proven in a court of law. The only thing that was done was raising the rates without going through parliament. Why was that wrong? Because the judge said it was a tax. It's not anymore.

You're not understanding what he said. The last few governments hid the fact that EI was used as a tax and not as the 'insurance' it was supposed to originally be.

"A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous

Posted
And you can ask your employer not to deduct EI form your pay....

I can't tell if you're joking or not...

"A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous

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You're not understanding what he said. The last few governments hid the fact that EI was used as a tax and not as the 'insurance' it was supposed to originally be.

I understand that, but they did nothing that was actually "wrong" and so there's nothing to pay back.

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They did...through government services and reduced debt.

No they didn't. #1 return the stolen money back to those who overpaid it or give the 50 Billion plus interest to this new board.

Job 40 (King James Version)

11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.

12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.

13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.

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And you can ask your employer not to deduct EI form your pay....

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/hm/plcmnt-eng.html#empresp

Employer responsibilities

All employers are required by law to deduct C.P.P. contributions and E.I. premiums from amounts they pay to their employees. Employers must remit these amounts to the CRA along with their share of C.P.P. contributions and E.I. premiums. More information on employer responsibilities and obligations can be found through our Payroll menu page

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Here we have it dancer is full of BS. The employer is required by law to deduct EI and CPP. If they don't they are liable for paying both the employee and employer deductions.

Job 40 (King James Version)

11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.

12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.

13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.

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So the Tories take the tax money - bail out their corporate friends...then they want more tax money via hiking EI priemiums ....then take these monies and hand even more over to their corporate looser friends --- mean while don't try to collect EI - cos you won't get it...in effect the EI will be used for rich guys to send their kids off to school in merry old England - or to spruce up the cottage _ I hear the elevator from the dock to the house is broken.. :lol:

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