jbg Posted August 16, 2009 Report Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) The article below is self-explanatory. This is Palestinian self-determination in action. The protagonist is a "doctor as well as a cleric". I wonder which profession's ethics he follows. An example to behold. Abdul-Latif Moussa blows himself up in the Gaza Strip yesterday after Hamas mosque raid(link) From The Sunday Times August 16, 2009 Uzi Mahnaimi in Tel Aviv A RADICAL Islamic cleric blew himself up in the Gaza Strip yesterday after a shootout with security forces in which 28 people were killed and 150 injured. Abdul-Latif Moussa was the head of a group inspired by Al-Qaeda in the southern town of Rafah, near the Egyptian border. He defied Hamas, the Islamic party that has controlled Gaza since it seized power in 2007, during a sermon at Friday prayers by declaring Rafah an “Islamic emirate” where even stricter theocratic rule would apply. This was a direct challenge to the authority of Hamas, which ordered the mosque to be stormed. Residents of the town, which is still sealed off, described a night of terrifying violence. Flares lit up the night sky as Hamas machinegun fire and rocket-propelled grenades slammed into the mosque. Moussa, a doctor as well as a cleric, died after a negotiator was sent at dawn yesterday to agree terms of surrender. Moussa was wearing a suicide vest and blew up both himself and the mediator, according to witnesses. Among the dead were three children and six Hamas security men. Edited August 16, 2009 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
WestViking Posted August 16, 2009 Report Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) One less radical, murderous despot to worry sane people. Edited August 16, 2009 by Charles Anthony deleted quotation of re-copied entire Opening Post Quote Hall Monitor of the Shadowy Group
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2009 Report Posted August 16, 2009 It's Israel's fault........somehow. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jbg Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Posted August 16, 2009 It's Israel's fault........somehow. As a sole result of the discouraging impact of Zionist influence, Gazans are dying. These are people who, but for Israeli imperialism, would be constructive, peaceful people. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2009 Report Posted August 16, 2009 As a sole result of the discouraging impact of Zionist influence, Gazans are dying. These are people who, but for Israeli imperialism, would be constructive, peaceful people. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jbg Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Posted August 16, 2009 I happen to have been quite serious. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2009 Report Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) I happen to have been quite serious. Well...like the Welsh, they can dig really deep holes...but unlike the Welsh, the concept of a civilian air raid shelter seems to be an alien construct. Go figure. Edited August 16, 2009 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jbg Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Posted August 16, 2009 Well...like the Welsh, they can dig really deep holes...but unlike the Welsh, the concept of a civilian air raid shelter seems to be an alien construct. Go figure. True. By the way you were right the first time. I was kidding. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
DogOnPorch Posted August 16, 2009 Report Posted August 16, 2009 True. By the way you were right the first time. I was kidding. No worries...I know we're on the same page re: yea olde "Palestinians". But you have to admire their propaganda that took what amounted to an Islamic version of National Socialism and turned it into the victims of the Jewish 'genocide'. Ben Gurion would be shaking his head in amazement. Hooray for Pallywood. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jbg Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Posted August 16, 2009 But you have to admire their propaganda that took what amounted to an Islamic version of National Socialism and turned it into the victims of the Jewish 'genocide'.What's sad is how many buy their views hook, line and sinker. I think it's the instinctive fear of a violent group and lack of fear of a democratic, cerebral group. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
dub Posted August 18, 2009 Report Posted August 18, 2009 As a sole result of the discouraging impact of Zionist influence, Gazans are dying. These are people who, but for Israeli imperialism, would be constructive, peaceful people. looks like your short term memory made you forget about the 900+ civilians killed by the IDF which included 300 children. somehow the world is blaming israel for that. the nerve of the world! Quote
Oleg Bach Posted August 18, 2009 Report Posted August 18, 2009 Dear God I hope someone is singing Kumbaya some where - better than blowing up a school full of Gaza kids or capturing a young and naive Israeli soldier and torturing him - any move forward is an improvement - don't make light of it. Quote
jbg Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Posted August 19, 2009 looks like your short term memory made you forget about the 900+ civilians killed by the IDF which included 300 children. somehow the world is blaming israel for that. the nerve of the world! Dub, can't you take "yes" for an answer? I'm busy here condemning the Zionist Entity. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
dub Posted August 19, 2009 Report Posted August 19, 2009 Dub, can't you take "yes" for an answer? I'm busy here condemning the Zionist Entity. no. seriously. did you forget? 900 civilians weren't just killed by israel? were the israeli soldiers singing kumbaya when they were shooting women and children waving white flags while coming out of a house that was being bombed by israeli planes? Israeli soldiers killed unarmed civilians carrying white flags in Gaza, says reportIsraeli soldiers shot dead 11 unarmed Palestinian civilians carrying white flags during Israel's offensive in Gaza earlier this year, according to a report from Human Rights Watch, which said Israel had failed to investigate the killings adequately. The deaths – including those of five women and four children – took place in seven separate incidents across Gaza in areas controlled by the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF), where there was no fighting and no Palestinian fighters were nearby. Quote
dub Posted August 19, 2009 Report Posted August 19, 2009 any kumbaya here? In one case, the civilians were walking in a group on a street. In another, they were driving slowly on tractors and in cars, trying to leave the area with the wounded, according to the report."On the way we saw tanks and soldiers," said Omar Abu Halima, 18. "When we saw them [the Israeli soldiers] they told us to stop. After we stopped they fired at us. They killed my cousin Mattar. My cousin Muhammad was wounded and later died." Quote
dub Posted August 19, 2009 Report Posted August 19, 2009 here? In another case – also in al-Atatra – two women holding white flags stepped out of a house that the IDF was demolishing to tell the soldiers that civilians were inside. "We opened the door and a sniper fired at us from a house," said Zakiya al-Qanu, 55. "Ibtisam was hit and I turned to go back inside and another bullet grazed my back. Ibtisam died in the doorway." Quote
jbg Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Posted September 8, 2009 More peace, brotherhood and freedom (link). Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Posted September 8, 2009 (edited) Even more peace, brotherhood and freedom; these people are 1derful. (link), excerpts below. Thirty Palestinians killed. Women and children caught in the crossfire. Missiles fired at a Mosque. Muslim prisoners 'executed' in cold blood. A massacre. Media restrictions. A familiar tale? Indeed. International outrage and demonstrations in the streets of London? Nope. And why might that be? Why it's simple. The Palestinians were were killed by Palestinians and, it would appear from the lack of reaction that in those circumstances their lives are cheap, but when they are killed by Israelis it is an outrage. ************ And where is the outrage about these murders. The marches, the petitions, the calls for a boycott, the conspiracy theory of a war against Muslims, ad infinitum? I hear just the wind blowing across the freshly dug graves. Because unless the Israelis kill them, people don't care. Edited September 8, 2009 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Topaz Posted September 8, 2009 Report Posted September 8, 2009 Christians wouldn't blow themselves up because its against the 10 commandments to "kill" but them again ,isn't that what Christians soldiers do? It seems the Middle-East religions honour one to commit suicide and so the whole religion things so confusing. Quote
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