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I think if we really wish to have leaps and bounds in technology we must eliminate copyrights and patents. Let all our great minds work together on evolving ideas. Money doesn't always have to be our motivating factor.

My view,

Everything is made from energy. Matter is energy, it's particles are just slowed down to be perceptible by our scenes. We are all beings of energy formed by frequencies and vibrations. Everything in existence is the same creature, us and everything is god for everything is energy.

Is this god/universe conscious, yes for we are conscious. Is there a greater conscious then ours, is the 4th dimension not greater then the 3rd. I believe as humans we already share a global consciousness.

This is why fighting wars and poverty make no sense to me, we are only hurting ourselves. Love is the only logical way to live, we must work together, life isn't suppose to be a competition.

It's time for us to come to our senses.

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What more can be said?

LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) -- Alcoa Inc. shares rose late Monday after the aluminum giant unofficially kicked off the first-quarter earnings season by narrowing its loss.

Alcoa shares /quotes/comstock/13*!aa/quotes/nls/aa (AA 14.49, -0.08, -0.55%) recently rose 0.3% to $14.62 following a trading halt. The company said higher aluminum prices helped it trim its net loss. It lost $201 million, or 20 cents a share, narrower than its loss of $497 million, or 61 cents a share, in the same quarter a year ago.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/alcoa-starts-earnings-season-with-evening-results-2010-04-12?dist=afterbell

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This is why fighting wars and poverty make no sense to me, we are only hurting ourselves. Love is the only logical way to live, we must work together, life isn't suppose to be a competition.

Life is precisely a competition....if you don't enjoy competiton, then you would find death more to your liking.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Life is precisely a competition....if you don't enjoy competiton, then you would find death more to your liking.

Yes, it is a competition. I understand Mapleleafs point of view that it shouldn't be a competition between ourselves to the death and we could perhaps devise better forms of competition among ourselves. But ultimately, life is a battle and sometimes, it's serious.

I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.

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The only person you're competing with is yourself.

Right now, society is set up so we compete against each other from different sectors across the board.

Religion, the economy, military power, politics.

What do we get from this, greed, wars, poverty, corruption. These aren't good things and we shouldn't be living with them.

Competition isn't healthy.

Competition is not needed for innovation.

Little video of what life could be like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXa6txFU-Lc

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Competition isn't healthy.

Competition is not needed for innovation.

Life says your wrong, it is precisely competition that gave rise to human beings.

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the rise of human beings, you mean the fall of human beings.

We have fallen from grace a long time ago.

Do you see what we do to each other and this planet. We rape and pillage.

Competition also creates power and control over others.

Our history should be proof of our mistake. Competition isn't good.

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The only person you're competing with is yourself.

No....I am competing with other human beings....pass the ammunition.

Right now, society is set up so we compete against each other from different sectors across the board.

Religion, the economy, military power, politics.

You just contradicted yourself. It will be easy to compete with you.

What do we get from this, greed, wars, poverty, corruption. These aren't good things and we shouldn't be living with them.

But we also get Stanley Cups, Price-is-Right Showcases, and the cheerleader with the biggest tits.

Competition isn't healthy.

Competition is not needed for innovation.

Competiton is necessary for both.

Little video of what life could be like.

I bet I can make a better video than that!

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Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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the rise of human beings, you mean the fall of human beings.

We have fallen from grace a long time ago.

Do you see what we do to each other and this planet. We rape and pillage.

Competition also creates power and control over others.

Our history should be proof of our mistake. Competition isn't good.

You live in a really depressing world.

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the rise of human beings, you mean the fall of human beings.

No, human beings are the end result of an evolutionary process which relied upon competition between varying lifeforms. Competition gave rise to humankind.

We have fallen from grace a long time ago.

Fallen from grace? If you are trying to make a serious argument don't invoke religious nonsense terminology.

Do you see what we do to each other and this planet.

Yes, I do see. What do we do "to" each other? We interact with each other so as to create a civilization where the quality of life is better than at any prior time in history, and the success of this civilization is due primarily to the free market economy which is an application of competition.

What do we do to the planet? We alter its environment so as to allow it to support billions of humans instead of millions as it could in its natural state.

We rape and pillage.

Speak for yourself.

Our history should be proof of our mistake. Competition isn't good.

Our history is proof that competition works. From our primitive origins, competitive society has allowed us to achieve today's brilliant examples of civilization, by far the greatest in human history. Those societies that have tried to work based on something other than competition have failed miserably, or have achieved success only to the extent that they have embraced at least some degree of individualism and competition.

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No, human beings are the end result of an evolutionary process which relied upon competition between varying lifeforms. Competition gave rise to humankind.

I don't think evolution relies on competition in order for it to take place. I think becoming more conscious of you and your surrounding is what drives evolution. I don't think evolution ever stops either.

Fallen from grace? If you are trying to make a serious argument don't invoke religious nonsense terminology.

You atheist? I'm neither atheist or religious, I'm pantheist.

Grace would be the difference from right and wrong, listening to your heart and helping others just for the benefit of helping others.

Yes, I do see. What do we do "to" each other? We interact with each other so as to create a civilization where the quality of life is better than at any prior time in history, and the success of this civilization is due primarily to the free market economy which is an application of competition.

OK, but this is not the only way civilization can work nor is it the best. For society to be successful it needs to be open minded, this society isn't.

What do we do to the planet? We alter its environment so as to allow it to support billions of humans instead of millions as it could in its natural state.

We are polluting the air, the water, the earth. We rape it of its natural resources.

This planet is our mother and home, we shouldn't be doing what we do to it. All just to save a couple bucks...

Speak for yourself.

I'm not saying you are as an individual but as a society we do.

Our history is proof that competition works. From our primitive origins, competitive society has allowed us to achieve today's brilliant examples of civilization, by far the greatest in human history. Those societies that have tried to work based on something other than competition have failed miserably, or have achieved success only to the extent that they have embraced at least some degree of individualism and competition.

We are still primitive.

world war one and two were both failures. The Iraq and Afghanistan wars are both failures.

thousands dying each day from poverty, fail.

I don't know how everyone turns a blind eye to this kind of stuff everyday.

We would be far more prosperous if we all worked with each other as opposed to against each other.

Say there is two teams playing hockey, how many goals would they get in a game, like 6 combined maybe. That is with the two teams competing. Say they worked together, how many goals would they get, maybe 600 because the goalies aren't gonna try and make saves. 6 or 600, which is better. It wouldn't make a very entertaining hockey game but that really isn't my point. If we all stopped competing and worked together we would be far more successful in reaching our goals.

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I don't think evolution relies on competition in order for it to take place. I think becoming more conscious of you and your surrounding is what drives evolution. I don't think evolution ever stops either.

You think wrong. Evolution is caused by natural selection and nature selects whatever species does the best I.E. the on with most most offspring. Consciousness has nothing to do with evolution.

You atheist? I'm neither atheist or religious, I'm pantheist.

Grace would be the difference from right and wrong, listening to your heart and helping others just for the benefit of helping others.

Right and wrong are relative to indivdual people. There is not a single species that has exsisted or ever will exsist that help others for no benefit to itself.

OK, but this is not the only way civilization can work nor is it the best. For society to be successful it needs to be open minded, this society isn't.

This soceity isn't open minded? :lol: You don't know what open minded is.

We are polluting the air, the water, the earth. We rape it of its natural resources.

This planet is our mother and home, we shouldn't be doing what we do to it. All just to save a couple bucks...

The planets is our mother and home bit? really? Your going to have to come up with a lot more than that. The earth is a insignificant piece of dust in a random hunk of the universe.

We are still primitive.

world war one and two were both failures. The Iraq and Afghanistan wars are both failures.

thousands dying each day from poverty, fail.

WW1 and 2 succedeed perfectly from our point of view and Iraq and Afghanistan aren't finished yet. Yes thousands of people die a year but that's hundreds of thousands less than would die if we weren't so advanced. If your looking for a world without suffering your delusional.

We would be far more prosperous if we all worked with each other as opposed to against each other.

No we wouldn't the vast majority of our acheivments have come from conflict.

Say there is two teams playing hockey, how many goals would they get in a game, like 6 combined maybe. That is with the two teams competing. Say they worked together, how many goals would they get, maybe 600 because the goalies aren't gonna try and make saves. 6 or 600, which is better. It wouldn't make a very entertaining hockey game but that really isn't my point. If we all stopped competing and worked together we would be far more successful in reaching our goals.

The Goal of hockey is to win if both teams worked together no one would win. Your analogy fails.

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You think wrong. Evolution is caused by natural selection and nature selects whatever species does the best I.E. the on with most most offspring. Consciousness has nothing to do with evolution.

what makes you so sure you are correct.

Right and wrong are relative to indivdual people. There is not a single species that has exsisted or ever will exsist that help others for no benefit to itself.

Their is a benefit to helping others without benefit to ones self, it's called love.

And if we all worked together it would benefit us all.

This soceity isn't open minded? :lol: You don't know what open minded is.

Society hasn't changed in hundreds of years, we live today as we did centuries ago.

The planets is our mother and home bit? really? Your going to have to come up with a lot more than that. The earth is a insignificant piece of dust in a random hunk of the universe.

You're too much of a left brain thinker. There is more to life then what you can taste, touch, feel, see and hear.

WW1 and 2 succedeed perfectly from our point of view and Iraq and Afghanistan aren't finished yet. Yes thousands of people die a year but that's hundreds of thousands less than would die if we weren't so advanced. If your looking for a world without suffering your delusional.

both wars were failures, millions died and no lesson was learned.

I'm not saying technology is bad.

No we wouldn't the vast majority of our acheivments have come from conflict.

Can you list 2 of these achievements.

The Goal of hockey is to win if both teams worked together no one would win. Your analogy fails.

You know what I'm trying to say.

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